2014 United Sports Car Championship

[RACECAR]

Not bad 👍


Will definitely be a nice change to the usual V8 sounds (though the BMW by far is to me the best sounding).

 

[Wilbur]

I just hope they can break the 200mph barrier in January

I think they will have a easier time then BUT who the heck knows. Not to beat a dead horse but they are comparing 2 types of cars from way different backgrounds, so Elliotts still is the one more impressive.

I think a P1 or even some of the P2 could produce a greater speed but speed isn't always the answer to being a great car or team.

 

[cnd01]

I think they will have a easier time then BUT who the heck knows. Not to beat a dead horse but they are comparing 2 types of cars from way different backgrounds, so Elliotts still is the one more impressive.

I think a P1 or even some of the P2 could produce a greater speed but speed isn't always the answer to being a great car or team.

LMP1 2009 spec could for sure. It probably could today too, but an lmp2 probably couldn't

 

[R0ssingt0n]

Also remember the car was set up purely to get that speed. With a proper race setup on they'll probably only just hit 200 at the very most.

 

[Mac K]

It had 750 bhp compared to the 600 bhp they'll have to run next year..

 

[cnd01]

It had 750 bhp compared to the 600 bhp they'll have to run next year..

Indeed. With 550 bhp, the DP was averaging 189 trap speed at Daytona and slightly faster at Kansas

 

[LancerEvo7]

...the DP was averaging 189 trap speed at Daytona and slightly faster at Kansas...

Weren't you the one that was saying they hit over 200mph at Daytona and never gave me the trap speeds you promised?

 

[cnd01]

Weren't you the one that was saying they hit over 200mph at Daytona and never gave me the trap speeds you promised?

I posted said speedtrap data pages ago kind sir

 

[Sam48]

I've updated the car count for the USCC and it's looking like all races will be at maximum pitlane capacity. Can't wait for the November test and the Roar Before the 24.


P – Prototype (20 - 25)

- Team Ganassi – BMW Riley
- Team Ganassi – BMW Riley*
- Picket Racing – HPD Honda*
- Dyson Racing – Lola Mazda*
- ESM Patron – HPD Honda
- ESM Patron – HPD Honda
- Gainsco Racing – *Corvette DP
- Action Express – *Corvette DP
- Action Express – *Corvette DP
- Level 5 Motorsports – HPD Honda
- Level 5 Motorsports – HPD Honda
- 8StarMotorsports – *Corvette DP
- 8StarMotorsports – *LMP2
- Starworks – BMW Riley
- Starworks – *LMP2
- Michael Shank Racing – Ford Riley
- Michael Shank Racing – Ford Riley
- Wayne Taylor Racing – *Corvette DP
- Wayne Taylor Racing – Corvette DP*
- Team Sahlen – BMW Riley
- Team Sahlen – BMW Riley
- Doran Racing – Ford Dallara
- Spirit of Daytona Racing – *Corvette DP
- Marsh Racing – Corvette DP*
- Delta Wing Coupe

PC – Prototype Challlenge (9-10)

- Bar1 Motorsports – ORECA
- Bar1 Motorsports – ORECA
- RSR Racing – ORECA
- Performance Tech Motorsports – ORECA
- PR1 Mathiasen Motorsports – ORECA
- PR1 Mathiasen Motorsports – ORECA*
- Dragon Speed Mishumotors – ORECA
- CORE Autosport - ORECA
- Bar1/Starworks – ORECA
- 8Star Motorsports – ORECA

GT-LM – GT Le-mans (10 - 12)

- Corvette Racing – Corvette C7R
- Corvette Racing – Corvette C7R
- Team Falken Tire – *Porsche 911 RSR (991)
- Team West/AJR Boardwalk Ferrari – Ferrari F458 Italia
- BMW Team RLL – BMW Z4 GTE
- BMW Team RLL – BMW Z4 GTE
- SRT Motorsports – SRT Viper GTS-R
- SRT Motorsports – SRT Viper GTS-R
- CORE Autosport – Porsche 911 RSR (991)
- CORE Autosport – Porsche 911 RSR(991)
- Risi Competizione – Ferrari F458 Italia*
- Brumos Racing – Porsche 911 RSR (991)*

GT-D – GT Daytona (19 – 35)

- ESM Patron – Ferrari 458*
- Rum Bum Racing – Audi R8*
- Burton Racing – Porsche 991*
- Muehlner Motorsports America – Porsche 991
- Muehlner Motorsports America – Porsche 991*
- Alex Job Racing – Porsche 991
- Alex Job Racing – Porshce 991*
- Magnus Racing – Porsche 991
- Paul Miller Racing – Porsche 991*
- JDX Racing – Porsche 991*
- JDX Racing – Porsche 991*
- Dempsey Del Piero – Porsche 991*
- NGT Motorsports – Porsche 991
- APR Motorsports – Audi R8*
- APR Motorsports – Audi R8*
- Riley Technologies – Viper GT3-R
- AF Waltrip – Ferrari 458
- R. Ferri/Aim Autosport – Ferrari 458
- Aim Autosport Team FXDD – Ferrari 458
- Scuderia Corsa – Ferrari 458
- Flying Lizard Motorsport – Porsche 991
- Flying Lizard Motorsport – Porsche 991
- TRG AMR – Aston Martin GT3
- TRG AMR – Aston Martin GT3
- Park Place Motorsports – Porsche 991
- Park Place Motorsports – Porsche 991
- Tuner Motorsports*
- Tuner Motorsports*
- Black Swan Racing – Mercedes SLS GT3*
- Fall Line Motorsports – Audi R8
- Speedsource/Mazdaspeed – Mazda 6
- Speedsource/Mazdaspeed – Mazda 6
- SRD Lotus Racing – Lotus Evora GX*

(Total car count, 54 – 82 cars estimated per race)

 

[Furinkazen]

Up to 3 DW Coupes are being constructed for USCC customers next season.

 

[Sam48]

Up to 3 DW Coupes are being constructed for USCC customers next season.

I suspect Dyson or Picket might jump on this. Neither team has announced any plans for the USCC and both of their cars are now obsolete.

 

[cnd01]

Put the speedsource gtd entries in the P class. Gut feeling on this one. Probably a p2 Lola chassis.

Also, I've heard rumblings that the Einsteins in charge are going to cap the Rolex 24 to 60 entries...

 

[RACECAR]

I suspect Dyson or Picket might jump on this. Neither team has announced any plans for the USCC and both of their cars are now obsolete.

I believe its been said that Dyson was actually going to P2 with a Lola.

 

[Sam48]

Put the speedsource gtd entries in the P class. Gut feeling on this one. Probably a p2 Lola chassis.

I really don't see that happening, and the entry list is based on what we know from reports and press releases, not pure speculation.

Also, I've heard rumblings that the Einsteins in charge are going to cap the Rolex 24 to 60 entries...

That would makes sense as Daytona only has 60 pit boxes. I believe they already ruled out pit box sharing for two car teams in the name of safety.

I believe its been said that Dyson was actually going to P2 with a Lola.

According to what I've read, Dyson is still undecided. They're torn between a WEC program, a P2 USCC program, and sitting out all together.

 

[cnd01]

I really don't see that happening, and the entry list is based on what we know from reports and press releases, not pure speculation.

That would makes sense as Daytona only has 60 pit boxes. I believe they already ruled out pit box sharing for two car teams in the name of safety.

I believe Sylvain tremblay mentioned going to the P class on the grand am unleashed podcast that came out Tuesday.

Conti has shared pit boxes at Daytona for years now. Simply done: make a P class car share with a gtd and pc with gtlm. They pit on different laps during cautions. I assume all classes use the same fuel nozzle attachment, so the overhanging fuel rig shouldn't be an issue. I see it as manufacturer teams in gtlm not wanting to share pit boxes, but then again I'm heavily biased

 

[Sam48]

I believe Sylvain tremblay mentioned going to the P class on the grand am unleashed podcast that came out Tuesday.

Oh, I hadn't heard. Though the last time you mentioned a Grand Am Unleashed interview you claimed Compass 360 was going to race DPs in 2014, so I'll believe you when Speedsource announce this themselves (Or when I find the time to sift through a 76 minute interview for a single phrase that proves me wrong so that I may apologize to someone on the internet ).

Conti has shared pit boxes at Daytona for years now.

Who's Conti?

Simply done: make a P class car share with a gtd and pc with gtlm. They pit on different laps during cautions. I assume all classes use the same fuel nozzle attachment, so the overhanging fuel rig shouldn't be an issue. I see it as manufacturer teams in gtlm not wanting to share pit boxes, but then again I'm heavily biased

How would that work? How about this; if you're a two car team with two cars in the same class, you get one pit box.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

How would that work? How about this; if you're a two car team with two cars in the same class, you get one pit box.

We all know that isn't the American way of racing. 'Merica!

 

[Mac K]

Don't V8 Supercars share a pit box right now?

 

[Sam48]

We all know that isn't the American way of racing. 'Merica!

The problem is people own multiple cars in multiple classes. Therefore, you could be sure teams would use this to their advantage in order to block their competition or mess up their strategy.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The problem is people own multiple cars in multiple classes. Therefore, you could be sure teams would use this to their advantage in order to block their competition or mess up their strategy.

Yeah true but I still think even if that wasn't the case they have multiple pit boxes for one team.

 

[cnd01]

Who's Conti?

The Continental tire sports car challenge. The best road racing I've ever seen. Anything from a 3400 pound solid rear axle mustang to a Nissan 370z to the occasional dodge challenger with camaros, Porsches, Bmw M3s, and Subaru for next season. The other class has Mazda mx-5s, Honda civics, Bmw 328i's, Mazdaspeed 3s, Volkswagen jettas and golfs, and even 2 Nissan altimas. Awesome diverse racing with large grids generally 50 or more cars a race. Going to races, I've seen multiple car teams sharing spots with their own team along with a team from another class like at Barber where basically everyone has to share a spot.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The Continental tire sports car challenge. The best road racing I've ever seen. Anything from a 3400 pound solid rear axle mustang to a Nissan 370z to the occasional dodge challenger with camaros, Porsches, Bmw M3s, and Subaru for next season. The other class has Mazda mx-5s, Honda civics, Bmw 328i's, Mazdaspeed 3s, Volkswagen jettas and golfs, and even 2 Nissan altimas. Awesome diverse racing with large grids generally 50 or more cars a race. Going to races, I've seen multiple car teams sharing spots with their own team along with a team from another class like at Barber where basically everyone has to share a spot.

Then you never watched BTCC or WTCC back during the 90s.

 

[cnd01]

Then you never watched BTCC or WTCC back during the 90s.

To each his own. No doubts it was great from the youtube I've watched, but I prefer conti. If I was old enough to remember it and had sufficient funds back then, I would have been going to those races and watching it on tv. If I had funds now, I would be going to btcc races as well as wec, dtm, and Aussie v8s. All of those are very interesting and fun to watch just from my point of view I like conti better

 

[Mac K]

Continental Challenge is pretty awesome, I've yet to find someone who doesn't like it..

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

To each his own. No doubts it was great from the youtube I've watched, but I prefer conti. If I was old enough to remember it and had sufficient funds back then, I would have been going to those races and watching it on tv. If I had funds now, I would be going to btcc races as well as wec, dtm, and Aussie v8s. All of those are very interesting and fun to watch just from my point of view I like conti better

I wouldn't waste my time on BTCC now I think WTCC is better along with V8s which I've loved for years, but I haven't seen Conti do anything to special I guess. I just want to see racing from back in the day again especially 90s and early 2000s Sport car racing, which I hope USCR produces and then flows into WEC from this side of the world.

 

[cnd01]

I wouldn't waste my time on BTCC now I think WTCC is better along with V8s which I've loved for years, but I haven't seen Conti do anything to special I guess. I just want to see racing from back in the day again especially 90s and early 2000s Sport car racing, which I hope USCR produces and then flows into WEC from this side of the world.

I'm hoping for more along the lines of the mid-80s prototype and grand touring action, but I don't see that happening again thanks to banning tobacco advertising. I believe the alms race at COTA outdrew the wec, so I'm not all that hot on making it the wecUSA. The late 90s was a great period as well. I see the DP as a continuation of what was raced in the late 90s especially since the gen 3 DP update. All in all, as long as they don't make the same mistakes which have been made time and time again, we'll see something special here. The Gt and Gt+ format is a good start imo and should be adopted worldwide. DP and P2 balancing is going to be ridiculous and everything will be criticized. I would have picked one or the other from the get go and gone with it if I called the shots. Regardless, I'll be in the stands for the Rolex 24 next January

 

[Hun200kmh]

Just read this from John Dagys twitter. Can't understand what's happening if true

IMO, it's a serious problem if we have teams, like @ConquestRacing and @AMR_Official committing to NAEC but not being confirmed due to space

 

[Furinkazen]

Basically more teams have signed up than there are entries, so someone's going to have to get kicked out...

 

[Sam48]

The Continental tire sports car challenge.

Well that's an entirely different sires. I was referring to pit box sharing in the same race.

 

[cnd01]

Basically more teams have signed up than there are entries, so someone's going to have to get kicked out...

Basically, if Imsa says they don't want anymore cars on the track, then teams can't race. A popular strategy used by the 24 hours of Le mans