2015 Round 3 - Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps - Nissan Zytek Z11SN Greaves Motorsport LMP2

[DBY___86]

Count the usa flags! You can't sort by country until round 4.

 

[Le_Manuz]

I guess each time you push the steering "stick" it's winding on almost full lock for a split second, and when you let it off it's coming all the way back to centre, so you're constantly pushing the tyres past their grip threshold.
can you reduce the steering sensitivity or lock settings with a DS3?

I have never raced one lap of any GT without a wheel so it's a foreign concept to play a driving game with a controller.

you need a very long extension on the thumb-stick so you can use it like joystick!!

there is three differences between wheel and ds3

- max turn angle : put two stock cars stopped, side by side, turn left or right at max
and see how much more angle have the car using a wheel
- traction control when turning : with a ds3 (TC deactivated "0") there is still some TC when turning
so you loose time in tight corner like la source
- turn in angle control (along with speed) : the faster you, the less turn in angle you'll have with a ds3 were a wheel is not affected by that
that's why in all those places (raidillon, the left after bruxelles, pouhon, paul frère and blanchimont) , you loose time

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Well I had a go last night even though I was shattered, but I always like to get a time on the board. Very interesting combination and look forward to having a few more goes. Only wanted to get into the 2:07's for now being tired so here's the lap from day 1 a 2:07.987! The nice thing is I've been over 2 tenths up on that ghost in the first sector so there's an absolute ton of time in the laps yet!

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I was looking forward to this, hoping I could find a place to improve.

Then I realized I ran faster than that lap. I know it's only the first day for this round but this is the first time that has happened in the history of everything.

 

[Pezzarinho17]

As a standalone TT event, I had a tremendous amount of fun with this yesterday! I am a DS3 user so I struggled to get Gold. My first timed lap was a bronze, my second a 2:13.020 (U Mad Bro!) and cracked it with third (a 2:12.2XX), but there were countless laps filled with stupidity, slightly clipping cones and discovering where the circuit extremes are at. I like that it is a new car as everyone is getting used to that at the same time, and I found a lot of confidence in it as I went through the session.

The only disheartening thing as ever is seeing the laptimes others are able to do. It didn't feel like I was leaving 6 seconds on the table during my lap, even considering small tenths here and there adding up to a lot of time. It is pretty standard that I am far from top spots so I just aim for Gold or feeling content in my own lap. Glad to see that other DS3 users have the same issues though and find it tougher. It is always going to be harder than using a wheel, but it is what I am used to now. I do have one so I may get it setup this weekend for a nice comparison and see just what time I can get from it.

 

[Dylan]

Won't be able to get to try until the weekend, but I do love Spa, so I'm aiming for the top 15,000 by the time round 3 ends!

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

He's dropping it into 1st to get the car turned into T1 then he upshifts to 2nd, then 3rd in quick succession and gets better drive out

Yea, that's what I was thinking too but I also thought he may be employing another trick on his run up through Eue Rouge to get such good speed through there.


EDIT: This is what I was thinking he was doing. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/g27-g25-dfgt-undocumented-wheel-lock-settings-guide.286646/

I have used this (670 degrees) in the past with success on certain car/track combos. For me, 670 degrees worked great when you wanted less input for more steering.....in other words, smoother steering inputs. The less you have to turn the wheel (smoother inputs) the faster your times will be. I haven't tested it here yet, but just was thinking if he was using the 670 degrees going through Eau Rouge, it would make for a faster time through there because he is able to be smoother with his inputs. He's an obvious alien, so maybe, along with his good run out of the first turn, he is just naturally smooth with his inputs anyway without using the above trick, or whatever you wish to call it. Anyways, just my stupid ass thoughts on the question that was asked earlier.

@numbnuts70 Glad you understood what I was trying to say here as I wasn't sure if I was explaining myself correctly in regards to how the degrees of steering can work out to be advantageous in some cases.

 

[Growling]

Yay finally a 2:07 after a few sessions. It came at the cost of a tweaked neck during rage though

 

[Tidgney]

I was looking forward to this, hoping I could find a place to improve.

Then I realized I ran faster than that lap. I know it's only the first day for this round but this is the first time that has happened in the history of everything.

Haha great stuff !

Yea, that's what I was thinking too but I also thought he may be employing another trick on his run up through Eue Rouge to get such good speed through there.


EDIT: This is what I was thinking he was doing. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/g27-g25-dfgt-undocumented-wheel-lock-settings-guide.286646/

I have used this (670 degrees) in the past with success on certain car/track combos. For me, 670 degrees worked great when you wanted less input for more steering.....in other words, smoother steering inputs. The less you have to turn the wheel (smoother inputs) the faster your times will be. I haven't tested it here yet, but just was thinking if he was using the 670 degrees going through Eau Rouge, it would make for a faster time through there because he is able to be smoother with his inputs. He's an obvious alien, so maybe, along with his good run out of the first turn, he is just naturally smooth with his inputs anyway without using the above trick, or whatever you wish to call it. Anyways, just my stupid ass thoughts on the question that was asked earlier.

@numbnuts70 Glad you understood what I was trying to say here as I wasn't sure if I was explaining myself correctly in regards to how the degrees of steering can work out to be advantageous in some cases.

I'm not sure he is doing anything special on Eau Rouge. When I've been equal or ahead I've been able to match him (Although not watched his replay or any replay yet). One thing I do, do is when I'm approaching 158/157mph I release the steering lock at an appropriate rate so I can then maintain it up the rest of the way. The car really likes to hold it's line I've found even when releasing the steering!

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Yay finally a 2:07 after a few sessions. It came at the cost of a tweaked neck during rage though

Want some of my pain pills?

 

[Growling]

I've got a microwave heat bean bag thanks @GTP_CargoRatt

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

I've got a microwave heat bean bag thanks @GTP_CargoRatt

Alright then.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Yay finally a 2:07 after a few sessions. It came at the cost of a tweaked neck during rage though

Sprained my wrist after a tank slapper at the bus stop yesterday.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Sprained my wrist after a tank slapper at the bus stop yesterday.

Seriously?

 

[Growling]

Sprained my wrist after a tank slapper at the bus stop yesterday.

 

[Leadfoot530]

First lap I ran was a 2:14.4XX. Couldn't do any better than that yesterday. Today I watched Imortal's replay with the same view I use; definatly learned a lot. Just hit a 2:13.37X. I'm on a DS3 mind you. Now to squeeze out those three tenths, then I'll be happy!

EDIT: Well, after one of the most frustrating half hours I've ever had in recent memory, I finally golded it on a DS3. 2:12.875, currently 9692 as of this edit. Funny enough, throughout most of my lap, I was behind my ghost, and I was cursing through most of it! Here, all I needed was just a slight tap of thee-brake around the final corner to get it. One last more to gold this year. See ya'll in June!

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Seriously?

It was the bus stop's way of getting revenge because I beat it for my magic lap last year.

 

[2cam16]

Fun car.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

It was the bus stop's way of getting revenge because I beat it for my magic lap last year.

Don't mean to laugh at your injury, it was just the way you said it that made it funny. 👍

 

[Downhill Dino]

I love it when I get the Eau Rouge just perfectly right only to just as much as touch the tip of the cone's polygons.

 

[lTwiSparkle]

I'm really enjoying the car and track, it's fun to try and get some time shaved away!
Slowly approaching the gold time with 2:13:6xx's, but, well! Are there any fellow DS3 users here?
I ask because I'm finding the car a little floaty; going flat out on Eau Rouge is an interesting thing, I need to shift down to 5th gear to avoid going off track/touching the cones! And even in the lower speed corners, the car seems to struggle to steer when i'd like it to
Maybe I'm just being silly

 

[Tandem21]

I'm doing 240 now through Eau Rouge, but haven't figured out how to not touch the cone on exit... 230 still my max until then.

Maybe... Maybe it's time to get a wheel. But those things are just so expensive.

 

[Thomas__633]

2.13.2, popped inside the top 10000 but will have been knocked out again by now.

 

[rehdogg15]

This track and car combo is very fun! But there's one huge issue. It's absolutely frustrating if you want to get a fast time. The previous 2 rounds felt a lot better when you tried to get a fast time, but on Spa... it feels like hell. Cones everywhere

 

[Mikey24]

I'm doing 240 now through Eau Rouge, but haven't figured out how to not touch the cone on exit... 230 still my max until then.

Maybe... Maybe it's time to get a wheel. But those things are just so expensive.

I bought a Driving Force EX off of an eBay shop for £45. It handles great and I can hold 157/158mph up Eau Rouge.

DFEX is definitely worth investing in!

 

[RACECAR]

I love it when I get the Eau Rouge just perfectly right only to just as much as touch the tip of the cone's polygons.

There were times where I swear I felt like I was aiming for the cones when I went through the corners and they looked back at me like this:

*Understeers into grass and invalidates lap time*

 

[Mikey24]

Either the cars' or the cones' object area (when producing the object) is larger than what the object looks like. I think this because there's been many instances where I've been disqualified when hitting a cone only to look back and realise the cone didn't move or even get touched by my car.

 

[silverjr65]

Can't figure out how everyone is flat out through eau rouge. When I do it the car just goes slightly right then says screw it and goes left. Watching the vids it looks like everyone's car is actually turning.

 

[Tandem21]

^ If you're on DS3, I don't think it's possible to be flat-out.

I bought a Driving Force EX off of an eBay shop for £45. It handles great and I can hold 157/158mph up Eau Rouge.

DFEX is definitely worth investing in!

Thanks for the rec., I'll look into it!

 

[ClydeYellow]

Whoever decided to place the cones where they are needs to be beaten with a cane in front of a large crowd. An otherwise pleasurable (if, perhaps, a bit easier than I expected) hotlap challenge ruined by cones places in such a way that a legal cut at the Eau Rouge will result in a frustrating DQ.

Golded it after the bazillion-th try with a time of 2.12.85x, will never try it again. Only realized when looking at the replay that I was way faster than I thought. I don't know how the guys at the top of the LBs are doing 2.06 - but as you're saying, you can flat-out the Eau Rouge if you know what you're doing with a FFB wheel, so I guess everything is possible.

Also keep in mind that this year's fastest qualifying lap for an LMP2 car was a 2.07.761 by the G-Drive Ligier Nissan. A direct comparison with the car we've been given is impossible (the Greaves car crashed out of quali in 2013), but the LMP2 pole in the same year it raced was a 2.08.540, almost a second slower but still four and a half second faster than gold.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

Whenever I hit the cones or see someone else complaining about them, this is what goes through my mind every time.