2016 NASCAR Discussion ThreadNASCAR

[kolio]

Kyle Petty, in as many words, "I hate parity."

That entire conversation was the stupidest thing too.

 

[GTFan24]

 

[Jahgee]

Anyone else going to watch the 2001 Season Review coming on in like 10 minutes?

 

[catamount39]

Anyone else going to watch the 2001 Season Review coming on in like 10 minutes?

Yup. 👍

And learned that the 2001 All-Star Race was hilariously ridiculous.

 

[Jahgee]

The 9/11 segment's getting to me as much as the Dale segment did

 

[BKGlover]

Overall, it's a good documentary. Who needs Hollywood when reality reads like 2001 did.

 

[Jubby]

Yes!! Jimmie Johnson is going to Homestead!!!

Average finish of 14th and no top 5s in the last 5 years means he'll go... and congratulate the winner.

 

[Jahgee]

Jimmie's never had to do well at Homestead, he's only ever had to do good enough to clinch the championship. This will probably be the first year we've seen him actually going for a championship since 2005, instead of just defending a championship.

 

[BKGlover]

Jimmie's never had to do well at Homestead, he's only ever had to do good enough to clinch the championship. This will probably be the first year we've seen him actually going for a championship since 2005, instead of just defending a championship.

The only time I can think of he needed to actually race to win it was 2012, and he didn't race long as the rear end failed on him, giving Kes the title and Dodge a going away gift.

 

[Dylan]

If Kurt Busch, Denny Hamlin, and Carl Edwards join Johnson in Homestead, I think he'll have a chance.

 

[Blitz24]

Jimmie's never had to do well at Homestead, he's only ever had to do good enough to clinch the championship. This will probably be the first year we've seen him actually going for a championship since 2005, instead of just defending a championship.

Not only has he never had to do well, he's never done well.

 

[Leadfoot530]

Not only has he never had to do well, he's never done well.

According to Wikipedia, he only has a few finishes outside the top ten. His good finishes won't win him the championship, but I wouldn't say they're bad finishes by any means.

 

[Blitz24]

According to Wikipedia, he only has a few finishes outside the top ten. His good finishes won't win him the championship, but I wouldn't say they're bad finishes by any means.

I'm not saying he won't do well, I'm just saying that I wouldn't be shocked if he doesn't win again.

 

[Jubby]

The only time I can think of he needed to actually race to win it was 2012, and he didn't race long as the rear end failed on him, giving Kes the title and Dodge a going away gift.

He "had" a race to win each year he wasn't fighting for the Championship. For example, each of the last 2 years. He finished 9th the last 3 years. Given the current format... he'll probably finish 4th in the standings at that rate.

 

[Dolph Drago]

All I can say is I was confused as hell watching timing and scoring on nascar.com when that caution came out and jumbled the field. It said both Johnson and Allmendinger ran out of fuel. I have a few questions for you guys who were actually able to see the race on TV.

Why did NASCAR wait so long to open pit road?
How did Johnson restart near the front while AJ restarted in the back?
Did AJ come in while the pits were still closed?
Was Johnson somehow able to hold off until pit road opened to avoid a penalty even though the commentary on the site said he was out of fuel at the same time as AJ?

 

[BKGlover]

All I can say is I was confused as hell watching timing and scoring on nascar.com when that caution came out and jumbled the field. It said both Johnson and Allmendinger ran out of fuel. I have a few questions for you guys who were actually able to see the race on TV.

Why did NASCAR wait so long to open pit road?
How did Johnson restart near the front while AJ restarted in the back?
Did AJ come in while the pits were still closed?
Was Johnson somehow able to hold off until pit road opened to avoid a penalty even though the commentary on the site said he was out of fuel at the same time as AJ?

Supposedly to straighten out the issues.
Didn't catch it.
Didn't catch it.
Yes. He says he screwed up and that's why he stopped on the track. He had enough fuel to stay on track, I guess he was flipping the wrong switch then realized it and flipped the right switch.

 

[AnthonyD1993]

AJ was in the back because he pitted while the pits were closed.

 

[Dolph Drago]

Supposedly to straighten out the issues.
Didn't catch it.
Didn't catch it.
Yes. He says he screwed up and that's why he stopped on the track. He had enough fuel to stay on track, I guess he was flipping the wrong switch then realized it and flipped the right switch.

AJ was in the back because he pitted while the pits were closed.

Thanks for the replies. 👍

You would think they would still let everyone pit if guys were about to run out of fuel, then figure out the mess. But this is NASCAR...

 

[BKGlover]

Thanks for the replies. 👍

You would think they would still let everyone pit if guys were about to run out of fuel, then figure out the mess. But this is NASCAR...

Part of the issue was that the caution came in the pit cycle, then you had all the guys who jumped ahead of the 11 before they got to the pace car, allowing cars to pit may have made the issue even worse.

 

[Dolph Drago]

Part of the issue was that the caution came in the pit cycle, then you had all the guys who jumped ahead of the 11 before they got to the pace car, allowing cars to pit may have made the issue even worse.

Hmm. I wonder if they considered red flagging the race? It just stinks for guys like Allmendinger, who ran just outside the top 5 all day, only to end up 10th.

 

[Ganon83]

Since 2005, Johnson has come into Homestead as a championship contender but behind on points twice. In 2010, when he beat Hamlin and in 2012, where he was well on his way to beating Keselowski and dominating the race before an unscheduled pit stop turned into an equipment failure

 

[MustangRyan]

We've seen this before. Ryan Newman hadn't won a race in all of 2014, and very nearly won the race at Homestead to steal the title. Only two late restarts allowed Harvick enough time to make up ground with four fresh tires to beat Newman.

Stewart drove like a man possessed in 2011, winning five out of ten Chase races, and toying with Edwards at Homestead, even after suffering damage to the nose in the opening laps of the race.

Teams and drivers are definitely able to take it up a notch, make faster cars, and drive harder when they absolutely have to. If you think Johnson is going to show up to Homestead and run 13th all day, you're delusional.

The four cars that make the final will probably all run in the top five all day, and one of them will probably have to win the race to win the championship.

 

[Ganon83]

According to son Doug, Robert Yates has liver cancer

 

[Dylan]

From Motorsport.com regarding the lengthy caution period:

The convergence of several unusual incidents during Sunday's Goody's 500 at Martinsville Speedway, produced a record 29-lap and nearly 20-minute delay - one NASCAR officials vowed not to let repeat in the future. At the end of an unusually long green-flag run and in the middle of green-flag pit stops, Carl Edwards' #19 Toyota blew a tire on Lap 356 of 500 which immediately put the race under caution. Many teams had not yet completed their stops when the caution was displayed and several teams were caught on pit road, a phenomena which typically causes scoring headaches for NASCAR. In addition, the race leader at the time of the caution, A.J. Allmendinger ran out of fuel and was forced to pit, while Jimmie Johnson - one of the cars still on the lead lap - had a fuel pickup problem and accidentally hit his engine kill switch, which briefly cut off his engine. The individual problems kept delaying the restart, as some drivers took it upon themselves to pull up along other cars - a practice to indicate to NASCAR they were questioning their position in the lineup.
"Today's situation was very unique and we were in the middle of green-flag pit stops," said Sprint Cup Series director Richard Buck. "That presents one set of issues and then as we got the lineup ready we had the leader run out of fuel, so we had to start over. We understand the stakes of the Chase - they are extremely high. Our job is to get it right. We then had another dynamic with (a large group) of wave-arounds. We took our time to make sure we got it right. It took a while but we felt very confident we got it right." Buck said NASCAR would consider a stopping the race (a red flag) but the problem Sunday was the circumstances kept changing. "We felt we were headed to a quick resolution and then we were presented with completely different circumstances and we were focused on making sure we got it right."

Also from NBC Sports;

Following the Goody's Fast Relief 500 at Martinsville Speedway, Sprint Cup drivers #95-Michael McDowell, #47-AJ Allmendinger and #46-Michael Annett were treated in the infield care center for various ailments.
McDowell, driver of Circle Sport-Leavine Family Racing's #95, was treated for dehydration and burns on his feet. McDowell had to be taken to the medical center on a stretcher. McDowell entered the race having dealt with pneumonia and strep throat according to NBC Sports' Mike Massaro.
Allmendinger, driver of the #47 Chevrolet for JTG-Daugherty Racing, was treated for overheating but was quickly released from the medical center.
HScott Motorsports' Annett was treated for carbon monoxide poisoning a team spokesman told NBC Sports. Damage to the left-rear of Annett's #46 car caused fumes to enter the car.

 

[Jahgee]

This has been uploaded to YouTube if anyone who missed it is interested

 

[Chad151515]

If Johnson wins the Championship, are we gonna change the Chase format again? My money says yes!

Whats funny about this comment is NASCAR has changed the Chase rules over the years to allow certain drivers the chance to run in the final 10 races. I personally am old school with the opinion that the season should be decided from season points 1-36, but that`s just me.

 

[catamount39]

Whats funny about this comment is NASCAR has changed the Chase rules over the years to allow certain drivers the chance to run in the final 10 races. I personally am old school with the opinion that the season should be decided from season points 1-36, but that`s just me.

The day they go back to 36 races, is the day they gain some of my respect back. This artificial garbage is so annoying, and a joke.

The racing is still decent for the most part thankfully.

 

[Chad151515]

The day they go back to 36 races, is the day they gain some of my respect back. This artificial garbage is so annoying, and a joke.

The racing is still decent for the most part thankfully.

Yup still think it's a joke a driver missed 1/3 of the races and was crowned a champion. I would really love to know what Big E would have though of the Chase.

 

[catamount39]

Yup still think it's a joke a driver missed 1/3 of the races and was crowned a champion. I would really love to know what Big E would have though of the Chase.

He'd punch everyone in the face and start his own series.

 

[ukfan758]

Yup still think it's a joke a driver missed 1/3 of the races and was crowned a champion. I would really love to know what Big E would have though of the Chase.

You know what's really pathetic about this current format? Hypothetically, a driver could win all of the first 35 races but finish second at Homestead and lose the championship.