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I read this article yesterday, you seem to have done a reasonable job of summarizing portions of it.
They won't be the widest ever, the regulations allowed for the cars to be as wide as 220 cm until 1993.
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What it all means. http://www.racecar-engineering.com/cars/renault-r-s-17/?platform=hootsuite
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So I guess Renault either plan to use their nose as a bobsled in the off season, or they'll mount three front wings come Baku and Monaco.
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Try as I might, I just can't get excited for the RS17. Sure, Renault weren't great in 2016, but neither were Sauber and I'm curious to see what Sauber can do this year. It's probably because Renault's off-season played out like a soap opera; first they wanted Bottas, then they wanted PĂ©rez and then Sainz Jr., and in the end they settled for HĂĽlkenberg. One pole position aside (though hardly a redeeming achievement), HĂĽlkenberg never lived up to the hype - I think there's a reason the top teams never considered him, much less signed him. As for Palmer, I'd prefer not to think about him; his 2016 season was woeful and he has no business being in Formula One. When he finally does leave the sport, I suspect that he will be forgotten before he has even has left the paddock. So to my mind, Renault is currently the personification of "meh".
It's fake.
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They are mid-field teams. They're playing it relatively safe with the regulations. Wait for Mercedes, Ferrari, and Red Bull for some potentially drastic changes.
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In other words, I make a complaint (yet again) about drivers and don't really reflect on the car itself. A post that surely belongs in the driver transfer thread ends up here, this isn't an aside and a very poor one on a continuation of what we can expect to see through the season...good on you for starting early and reminding us what we can see for possibly each GP thread and general F1 thread.
The car itself is interesting there are a lot of aero devices and work being used due to the new rules, and then there are more radical looking things as well. The car is probably the most dynamic looking of the three so far.
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It's just hard to get excited about it given everything that has happened. Fairly or no, that made it harder for me to get engaged. Remember when we were all looking forward to the team's plans, but then they kept delaying the decision and it became apparent that even the drivers didn't want to be involved. In the end, we all just wanted it to be over, and they settled for two pretty ordinary drivers. This event wasn't just a car launch, it was a team launch - a statement about the team as a whole. And it wasn't a particularly exciting one.
Especially when there aren't any high-res images of the car where you can actually see the car properly. The first image Renault published was of a black car against a black background in low light. It's a pretty apt metaphor for the team as a whole.
There's a squiggly turning vane, but that's all that I can make out.
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I just found this while looking for new pictures of the Renault.
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Is that a Willber or a Saulliams?
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Once again, you're basing your like or dislike or care for this cars release based on the HR handling of who would drive it...not the actual car. Which means you couldn't have cared less for this release prior to today. I don't see how the car design which is a very separate thing for the people driving it conflicts in someones excitement. I mean I'm not overly thrilled about the management of Renault and their board and intentions for being in F1, doesn't stop me from being excited to see their car.
As for what you say about their releasing and handling of the release, yes that's what I expected and why I don't care for Renault's managing qualities all around. From the PR side to top board. That still doesn't detract that a car built by people that have to work in that system was released, looks interesting and just increases the excite for this season to start.
New s-duct, new side pods, new roll hope/intakes, mid section barge board starting ahead of the main barge board on the outside of the v-section turning vanes, floor board turning vanes ahead of the rear tires, the shark fin. More elements and shape to the rear wing then they tried last year.
I just found this while looking for new pictures of the Renault.
F1 fanatic has all the pictures of the Renault that are official by them, and there are a few posts in the last couple pages showing independent groups or other racing sites. As for the image above, it does show (even if not sized well in comparison) how much Sauber shaved off.
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I'll admit to polite interest in all of the teams, but it's driven by curiosity as to what they have done rather than a love of design principles. You know as well as I do that people tend to support individual drivers or teams, and I'm squarely in the McLaren camp.
I expect that they do, but they had a dodgy ad client a while ago and I suspect it tried to download something onto my device. So I tend to avoid them now, even though it was months ago.
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That's fine, but considering this is a take on designs and not the emotions of favorite drivers, logos, teams and what not. It gets very hard to see what liking or disliking drivers has to do with seeing or not seeing an interesting design during new tech regulations.
That's why I said there are other sites posted in the past couple pages, Racecar engineering has some nice official photos, so does Motorsports and other places.
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Renault have already admitted that this is not the car that will be seen in testing, and that the car that will be seen in testing is not the car that will compete in Melbourne. It's hard to pass judgement of an incomplete car off the back of a few poorly-staged studio photos. Testing is when I think we'll get a more accurate idea of the cars.
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I believe this year's cars will be best looking F1 cars ever for a long time since the hallo is set to be introduced in 2018
I'd forgotten about that.
Time to savour these looks whilst they last. Even if they do have the awful shark fins.
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I hope the colours keep coming. I loved last year's Renault in matte-ish Yellow.
Yellow (Renault)
White (Williams)
Blue/Gold (Sauber)
Red (Ferrari)
I'd hope to see a newly coloured Mercedes and an orange McLaren...please, give us a better visual this year. Love the Renault so far. Classy looking scheme.
Yellow (Renault)
White (Williams)
Blue/Gold (Sauber)
Red (Ferrari)
I'd hope to see a newly coloured Mercedes and an orange McLaren...please, give us a better visual this year. Love the Renault so far. Classy looking scheme.
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I'm not really sure why, but I'd like to see Haas come up with a nice, Murica themed livery. Something like (wavy) stripes in (blue/)red/white and the shark fin painted like a US flag.
But I'd already be happy if they don't come up with anything resembling their 2016 livery.
But I'd already be happy if they don't come up with anything resembling their 2016 livery.
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When does Haas unveil their car anyway?
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I think it's the 26th.
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So true! And for most of its time, F1 GP racing has also been about unreliability. This seems to have largely been banished - but was it selectively summoned back last year?
I think these big, heavy, powerful, complex cars will be bearing greater loads than ever before, so maybe we'll see some parts break under the strain?
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