2017 General WEC/ELMS/AsLMS Discussion ThreadSports Cars

[-Fred-]

Lister Storm LMP. A failure of a prototype (not quite up to GT-R LM or AMR-One failure levels) that raced sporadically in the early 00's.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Lister Storm LMP. A failure of a prototype (not quite up to GT-R LM or AMR-One failure levels) that raced sporadically in the early 00's.

Wasn't much of a failure considering it actually won a race..... By 5 laps....

 

[-Fred-]

Wasn't much of a failure considering it actually won a race..... By 5 laps....

Which would mean something if it hadn't been the only LMP900 car in the field. It's a bit like saying the Manor F1 is a fast car because it won a GP2 race.

 

[RACECAR]

Wasn't much of a failure considering it actually won a race..... By 5 laps....

I'm gonna guess it was against cars that weren't exactly challenging it in anyway considering how terribly off pace it was in most of its outings.

 

[Panoz]

I'm gonna guess it was against cars that weren't exactly challenging it in anyway considering how terribly off pace it was in most of its outings.

The field for that Vallelunga race the Lister won wasn't nothing to write home about.

Results.

 

[catamount39]

No kidding...car was 5 years old in '04 (not actual team or year, photo from 1999 at Donington):

 

[Furinkazen]

Results.

Yo dawg, so I heard you like multiple classes...

 

[trustjab]

I remember that Lister being in this Le Mans video game for the original XBOX that had the Cadillac lmp1, Panoz lmp1, Audi R8 and a couple others. I think it was called Test Drive Le Mans?

EDIT: I think TD LM was for dreamcast, but I remember that car being on an xbox game!

EDIT 2: Found it-

 

[RACECAR]

I remember that Lister being in this Le Mans video game for the original XBOX that had the Cadillac lmp1, Panoz lmp1, Audi R8 and a couple others.

Well, it was supposed to (along with the Corvette C5-R) but in the end, both weren't in the game despite the presence of file directories for both cars on the disc. It had:

PRO
-Audi R8
-Bentley EXP Speed 8
-BMW V12 LMR
-Panoz LMP 01-Evo
-Dome S101
-Lister Storm LMP (Yep, that was there and hilariously, was the fastest car in the game )
-Pilbeam MP84 (An LMP675 car, which is actually more of a FIA SR2 category car)

GTS
-Vemac RD180
-Sintura S99 GT1
-Lister Storm
-Panoz Esperante GTR-1
-McLaren F1 GTR

GT
-Audi TT-R
-BMW M3 GTR
-Noble M12 GTO
-Quaife R4 GT1

Weirdly, it also had a "Rockingham Champ Car", which is basically a Reynard 02i in Rockingham Speedway livery.

 

[trustjab]

I definitely remember that Lister being THE FASTEST thing on those straights. I could never catch him unless I used the same car. Even drafting I couldn't pass. Crazy I remember that from over a decade ago.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Which would mean something if it hadn't been the only LMP900 car in the field. It's a bit like saying the Manor F1 is a fast car because it won a GP2 race.

Still won though you can't argue with that.

 

[Furinkazen]

Still won though you can't argue with that.

Only car in class, 5 seconds a lap quicker than next car... be very worried if it didn't win.

 

[-Fred-]

Worthy of mention, Lister came back to Vallelunga in 2005 to defend their title and lost to a Maserati MC12. By 15 laps.

Also worthy of mention in that same race; one team entered with an ex-BPR Ferrari F40, 9 years after said BPR championship went extinct and 18 years after the first F40 was produced, showing just how serious the competition actually was.

 

[Holdenhsvgtsr]

Only car in class, 5 seconds a lap quicker than next car... be very worried if it didn't win.

Same could have been same when there was a GT2 Ferrari and a Ginetta LMP3 entered in last years Silverstone 24 and they both lost to a GT4 car.

 

[brownninja97]

Vallelunga has one of the most crazy histories possible it seems

 

[IforceV8]

Porsche 1-2 in FP1 by 1.4 sec, Aston leads GTE-Pro, Ford 2-3.

 

[brownninja97]

http://live.fiawec.com/

free practise 2 is on right now for the next 50 odd minutees.

 

[IforceV8]

 

[Bram Turismo]

How the hell do you stop AF Corse from winning?

Seriously, for as long as I can remember they have always been the ones absolutely dominating in their Ferraris...

 

[trustjab]

Toyota 1-2 in 2nd practice. Great to see the performance there from them. Audi, not so much.

 

[IforceV8]

How the hell do you stop AF Corse from winning?

Seriously, for as long as I can remember they have always been the ones absolutely dominating in their Ferraris...

Ford are keeping their sandbags in the passenger seat until Le Mans. The WEC rounds are just test sessions for them.

Toyota and Ferrari much quicker than anyone in their class in sector 2 ( Les Combes to Stavelot).

 

[Furinkazen]

Every GTE Pro is sandbagging. Calling BS on these cars not being faster than last year specs.

 

[Scuderia Paul]

Ford are keeping their sandbags in the passenger seat until Le Mans. The WEC rounds are just test sessions for them.

Toyota and Ferrari much quicker than anyone in their class in sector 2 ( Les Combes to Stavelot).

Toyota is running the high downforce aero so sector 2 would certainly favour them and not the low-drag Audi and Porsche.

Great to see my beloved Toyota topping a session again. It has been a while!

 

[trustjab]

Toyota is running the high downforce aero so sector 2 would certainly favour them and not the low-drag Audi and Porsche.

Great to see my beloved Toyota topping a session again. It has been a while!

True, but their top speed is comparable to both Porsche and Audi's (http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/) even though they're running low drag. That shows Toyota has some POWER!

 

[Scuderia Paul]

True, but their top speed is comparable to both Porsche and Audi's (http://fiawec.alkamelsystems.com/) even though they're running low drag. That shows Toyota has some POWER!

I didn't realise that. Brilliant news and now I'm even more hopeful of some success this weekend.

That Rebellion is like a slippery eel though.

 

[catamount39]

Imagine if the Rebellion had a hybrid system.

 

[Snaeper]

How the hell do you stop AF Corse from winning?

Seriously, for as long as I can remember they have always been the ones absolutely dominating in their Ferraris...

Well Ford knows a thing or two about beating Ferrari's...

 

[trustjab]

Endurance Info talks to Bruno Famin (Peugeot) about his presence at Spa. Lmp1 is mentioned as is Garage 56!

 

[Jimlaad43]

Why is this being done on Thursday-Friday-Saturday?

 

[ukfan758]

Why is this being done on Thursday-Friday-Saturday?

Mother's Day?