Nicko
Premium
- 1,361
- Queensland
- AUSnicko9
Yeah I just watched the lap before, the car looks far more stable and controlled than mine certainly is...
550PP Ferrari F40 Super Lap: Apricot Hill Raceway
- Thread starter nowcontrol
- 243 comments
- 36,326 views
Yeah I just watched the lap before, the car looks far more stable and controlled than mine certainly is...
- 821
- Stockholm
- TRL_EVOLUTION
Active Steering and hackers at the top again, screw PD
- 720
- UK
- DD84UK
Managed some improvement, approaching 1:24 but still 3 tenths away from it. @Stotty's line helped but is awesomely fast, spevially in the first set of corners, after that I managed to follow his pace. I also passed @Growling who surely will improve and will make me bite the dust. 
Maybe it's a silly question, but I noticed that the top guys turbo needle goes beyond mine. I, with high RPM turbo barely reach 3/4 of the gauge while they almost reach the maximum. Also, in the replay, the turbo sound it's far more noticeable. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong?
And an open question to finish... Is the car faster with the pass of the miles or a chassis stiffening is better?
Thanks in advance!
Maybe it's a silly question, but I noticed that the top guys turbo needle goes beyond mine. I, with high RPM turbo barely reach 3/4 of the gauge while they almost reach the maximum. Also, in the replay, the turbo sound it's far more noticeable. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong?
And an open question to finish... Is the car faster with the pass of the miles or a chassis stiffening is better?
Thanks in advance!
- 1,751
- Old South Wales
- numbnuts70
Managed some improvement, approaching 1:24 but still 3 tenths away from it. @Stotty's line helped but is awesomely fast, spevially in the first set of corners, after that I managed to follow his pace. I also passed @Growling who surely will improve and will make me bite the dust.
Maybe it's a silly question, but I noticed that the top guys turbo needle goes beyond mine. I, with high RPM turbo barely reach 3/4 of the gauge while they almost reach the maximum. Also, in the replay, the turbo sound it's far more noticeable. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong?
And an open question to finish... Is the car faster with the pass of the miles or a chassis stiffening is better?
Thanks in advance!
I found that the needle with the default (standard) turbo is the 1 that goes all the way around the gauge.
High RPM turbo doesn't move as much.
- 8,642
- London
- GTP_Stotty
Maybe it's a silly question, but I noticed that the top guys turbo needle goes beyond mine. I, with high RPM turbo barely reach 3/4 of the gauge while they almost reach the maximum. Also, in the replay, the turbo sound it's far more noticeable. Can anyone explain what I am doing wrong?
Will be a different combination of power parts. I've only tried high turbo, but there are other combinations of parts that give same/similar kg/bhp 👍
Don't know about dirty oil, but car feels pretty much the same to me with or without chassis strengthening... it's equally as evil either way
- 1,415
- Coventry
- graveltrap
Chipping away, tiny improvement to 1:25.660 
I was 4 tenths up on my previous best but lost most of it in the corner after the second big stop
I was 4 tenths up on my previous best but lost most of it in the corner after the second big stop
- 248
- La Cambrouse
- IGURAG11
Let's summarize.
1. This car is an animal in real life, a wild beast (I never drove one, but I can read).
2. PD messed up with it (see previous posts). It is a very demanding car, a pilot's car, but it's not a piece of 🤬.
3. PD seems to have covered Apricot Hill with ice or oil for this TT.
Conclusion: despite all that, what a great seasonal, what a challenge! Congratulations to those who can gold it with the stock F40 (only silver here), thanks to the brave who share tunes and advice. And for everyone who find it hard: don't give up!
1. This car is an animal in real life, a wild beast (I never drove one, but I can read).
2. PD messed up with it (see previous posts). It is a very demanding car, a pilot's car, but it's not a piece of 🤬.
3. PD seems to have covered Apricot Hill with ice or oil for this TT.
Conclusion: despite all that, what a great seasonal, what a challenge! Congratulations to those who can gold it with the stock F40 (only silver here), thanks to the brave who share tunes and advice. And for everyone who find it hard: don't give up!
- 174
- USA
- matilda1234
Finally cracked into 1:27s, so I'm warming up to this a bit.
- 720
- UK
- DD84UK
Will be a different combination of power parts. I've only tried high turbo, but there are other combinations of parts that give same/similar kg/bhp 👍
Don't know about dirty oil, but car feels pretty much the same to me with or without chassis strengthening... it's equally as evil either way
Ok guys, thanks for answering. I'll try stock turbo as some of the top guys are going that way. Of course it won't save me tenths but trying it's for free.
At this moment, after more than 750 km, my chassis strenght is already in yellow, but I will leave it that way a few hundred miles more just in case the car is faster with it worn out.
I must admit that, after fiddling with the tune a lot, my improvement mainly come from my own personal driving skills development, so this theories and so are just to fill every possible gap of improvement, but in the end, as @Stotty had stated before, this seasonal is a driver's one, not a tuner's one.
- 2,515
- London
- nowcontrol
It wouldn't surprise me if this new US account of the #1 hacker is Bruno just trying to be less obvious. Ha. All the settings are same as he uses on other accounts.
I saved the replay for a viewing and the account even has the language set to the same as he uses on all of his Brazilian accounts, so i'd say that is a bit of a giveaway.
The lap definitely stinks of cheating no matter who it is.
All the settings are same as he uses on other accounts.I saved the replay for a viewing and the account even has the language set to the same as he uses on all of his Brazilian accounts, so i'd say that is a bit of a giveaway.
The lap definitely stinks of cheating no matter who it is.
- 296
- New York
- t_wilson01
The feathering of the throttle AND steering with this is off the charts! 
I'm most likely done with this one. I'm guessing that this TT is actually enjoyable with a wheel.
[posted a new video]
I'm most likely done with this one. I'm guessing that this TT is actually enjoyable with a wheel.[posted a new video]
Last edited:
- 456
The sound of the car is a little suspicious tooIt wouldn't surprise me if this new US account of the #1 hacker is Bruno just trying to be less obvious. Ha.
I saved the replay for a viewing and the account even has the language set to the same as he uses on all of his Brazilian accounts, so i'd say that is a bit of a giveaway.
The lap definitely stinks of cheating no matter who it is.
- 456
Hard t seasonal, managed to gold it with a slighty modified @Ridox2JZGTE tune
- 1,071
- Michigan
- GTP_Brewguy
Has the tranny glitch been resolved? How can one change the final gear after setting the gears as in the tune instructions without everything switching back to default?
1st set Final Gear (DON'T TOUCH IT AGAIN!!!). then set Max Speed then Gears. That's it. You can change Max Speed and Gears all you want just not the Final Gear.
- 5,785
- Norman, OK
- McClarenDesign
- 2,274
- Denmark Odense
- jacquet16
After my opinion is people that cheat are loosers nothing else.
- 1,415
- Coventry
- graveltrap
1:25.382 I think that's going to be it for me!
Messed with engine builds a bit, but went back to the stage 3 turbo. I get the same power and torque with other builds, but the rpm on the graph changes from 8000, up to 8,300 not sure if this has any impact on performance...
My car has chassis rigidity improvement, but my best times have been set once rigidity has begun to deteriorate.
Messed with engine builds a bit, but went back to the stage 3 turbo. I get the same power and torque with other builds, but the rpm on the graph changes from 8000, up to 8,300 not sure if this has any impact on performance...
My car has chassis rigidity improvement, but my best times have been set once rigidity has begun to deteriorate.
- 720
- UK
- DD84UK
Don't be so sure mate.. I had almost an hour on this yesterday and couldn't improve! Nearly launched my wheel through the window
I had two days of no improvement at all and then, inspiration came and improved 2 tenths... Hehehe. For this TT you need all your senses sharpened and concentrate your whole mind on it.
- 8,642
- London
- GTP_Stotty
I just had quick 30 mins and improved twice, 1st time by 0.020, 2nd time by 0.002
But a really encouraging run as I was killing my ghost in T1 and T2, and threw away 24.6's 3 times on exit of the final corner.
Got to go out with the wife now, but hopefully I'll be able to have a proper run later this afternoon.
I'll post my tune too... this one is really fascinating when it comes to balancing rotation against understeer... the more you try to calm the rear, the more understeer you create and the more the car wants to over rotate as you have to use more steering angle.
But a really encouraging run as I was killing my ghost in T1 and T2, and threw away 24.6's 3 times on exit of the final corner.
Got to go out with the wife now, but hopefully I'll be able to have a proper run later this afternoon.
I'll post my tune too... this one is really fascinating when it comes to balancing rotation against understeer... the more you try to calm the rear, the more understeer you create and the more the car wants to over rotate as you have to use more steering angle.
- 1,201
I spoke with a friend over the weekend that has actually driven an F40 on a track. He hasn't played Gran Turismo since GT3 and was utterly blown away by the graphics and feel of the game. We spent a few hours playing and the subject of the F40 seasonal came up. I had no idea he had driven one, and it was great to hear about it. He drove the press car that made the rounds back when it came out, the one that was on the front of all the magazines. He said the tires were **** when he drove it, and that the car was an absolute beast, but the one on the game was horrible beyond reason. He couldn't even complete a lap lol. I let him drive my tune and he said it was much better, but nothing like the real car. This got me thinking. If it's not going to be like the real car, why even bother? But the game simply can't simulate the real car, and if you're using a DS3, even if it could you probably wouldn't notice. He also said that the 959 was MUCH better to drive, and would have picked that car over the F40 in a heartbeat. Yes, it was a good weekend.
- 8,642
- London
- GTP_Stotty
I noticed that you've made a new line because after the long left sweeper you went too wide, two wheels on the grass..
Yeah, I realised early I was running wide, but decided to just keep my foot in... surprised it didn't red lap me as I'm pretty sure I was all 4 on the grass at one stage
- 1,201
The game will let you slide on that, big time, as long as your front end is pointed the right way. At least, that's my experience. If you go in face first it'll hit you every time, but ass-first, you'll get away with it most of the time.
- 1,071
- Michigan
- GTP_Brewguy
🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬 
👎 I've tried @Ridox2JZGTE tune and Mine and the close I can get is 1:33. This Sucks!!! I can't get 2 more seconds and let me tell you I've been trying since it came out. Anybody else got a tune I could try. I'll try anything except Cheating like some other people I've heard. Winning it fair and square is so much more Rewarding 👍
👎 I've tried @Ridox2JZGTE tune and Mine and the close I can get is 1:33. This Sucks!!! I can't get 2 more seconds and let me tell you I've been trying since it came out. Anybody else got a tune I could try. I'll try anything except Cheating like some other people I've heard. Winning it fair and square is so much more Rewarding 👍
- 1,201
I have a tune that's as docile as they come for this car IMO. It's based off of Exeter's tune. I'll post it for you later.
- 720
- UK
- DD84UK
🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬
Try the values that @Stotty have posted here: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...icot-hill-raceway.326276/page-2#post-10586149
For suspension put the height a little bit higher than stock, something like 90/95. Then, the rear springs to min. Shock absorbers to min, or one point above in both axles. ARB to max in both axles too.
Hope it helps but, the key is handling the inputs like if they were made from the finest glass.
- 11,660
- GTP_Orido
🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬
You can increase front spring rate to the same as rear on my tune, if that doesn't work, you can try others tunes posted ( use these if necessary : move ballast forward, use ride height glitch, use min/max springs, ARB and dampers, open diff, zero camber, the whole shebang )
- 8,642
- London
- GTP_Stotty
Can't get back on the PS3 as my darling wife has irritatingly decided to fall asleep on the couch
I had used +0.20 rear toe in my 1st session an attempt to make the car more stable on turn in, but as I mentioned in my previous post, the more I tried to tie the rear down the more understeer I got and the more lock I subsequently need to make the apex... and the extra lock made the transitions difficult.
Today, I tied the car without rear toe and for me, the car became easier to drive (results may not be the same for everyone
). You have to be VERY smooth with the steering/throttle/brakes (particularly your 1st application of any of those), but keeping the car in a slight drift in the longer corners is relatively easy and using the throttle to balance the weight shifts feels lovely
Here's what I'm using now... no idea how it will work with a DS3, and it's built using AS strong!
Ferrari F40 '92
New car from dealers, no oil change, chassis strengthening fitted (don't think it makes much difference)
Stage 3 weight reduction
High RPM Turbo
All other non-power parts
Should be 494bhp, 1,122kg and 550ppts
Ride 85 85
Springs 7.79 14.20
Bound 10 1
Rebound 1 10
ARB 7 7
Camber 0 0
Toe 0 0
Brakes 7 1
LSD 5 10 40
Gears
Max speed 193mph
1st 3.492
2nd 2.312
3rd 1.776
4th 1.437
5th 1.195
Next plan will be to gradually wind back the LSD decel as I get more used to the balance.
Hope it helps, but don't blame me if you fly in to the sand in turn 1... there's no magic fix for the F40
I had used +0.20 rear toe in my 1st session an attempt to make the car more stable on turn in, but as I mentioned in my previous post, the more I tried to tie the rear down the more understeer I got and the more lock I subsequently need to make the apex... and the extra lock made the transitions difficult.
Today, I tied the car without rear toe and for me, the car became easier to drive (results may not be the same for everyone
). You have to be VERY smooth with the steering/throttle/brakes (particularly your 1st application of any of those), but keeping the car in a slight drift in the longer corners is relatively easy and using the throttle to balance the weight shifts feels lovely Here's what I'm using now... no idea how it will work with a DS3, and it's built using AS strong!
Ferrari F40 '92
New car from dealers, no oil change, chassis strengthening fitted (don't think it makes much difference)
Stage 3 weight reduction
High RPM Turbo
All other non-power parts
Should be 494bhp, 1,122kg and 550ppts
Ride 85 85
Springs 7.79 14.20
Bound 10 1
Rebound 1 10
ARB 7 7
Camber 0 0
Toe 0 0
Brakes 7 1
LSD 5 10 40
Gears
Max speed 193mph
1st 3.492
2nd 2.312
3rd 1.776
4th 1.437
5th 1.195
Next plan will be to gradually wind back the LSD decel as I get more used to the balance.
Hope it helps, but don't blame me if you fly in to the sand in turn 1... there's no magic fix for the F40
Similar threads
