Batman: The Dark Knight
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I too call for the re-introduction of Mr. Freeze at a later time... He is one of my favorite Batman villians. However, they have to figure out a way to make it based in real-life, which may be a fair bit more difficult. Same thing with Poison Ivy (sexy villain, yes?)...
I'd assume that Catwoman or The Penguin would be next, and surely I'd enjoy a return of The Penguin. Yes, I know I'm crazy...
I'd assume that Catwoman or The Penguin would be next, and surely I'd enjoy a return of The Penguin. Yes, I know I'm crazy...
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Looking at his great list of nemesis, there are very few that stand out as possibilities in this new franchise:
- Catwoman
- Two Face (current themes suggest that he will be next, Harvey Dent playing a major role in Dark Knight)
- The Riddler
- The Penguin
- Harley Quinn (I do hope to see her appear in Dark Knight)
Most of the rest of his nemesis seem to be a bit too "fantastic" to have an appearance in this distinctively well-grounded franchise. That being said, we'll have to see what happens after the Justice League film... It sounds as though this version of Batman won't exist in that universe...
- Catwoman
- Two Face (current themes suggest that he will be next, Harvey Dent playing a major role in Dark Knight)
- The Riddler
- The Penguin
- Harley Quinn (I do hope to see her appear in Dark Knight)
Most of the rest of his nemesis seem to be a bit too "fantastic" to have an appearance in this distinctively well-grounded franchise. That being said, we'll have to see what happens after the Justice League film... It sounds as though this version of Batman won't exist in that universe...
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Wow, why did this thread splutter out? We're a week away from the film's release and this hasn't been touched since December. Or is there another thread on the subject that I've missed?
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Nope, you haven't missed another thread.
I'm still trying to follow the marketing on this one, with all the various websites playing into it. It's been a fantastic involvement of the public for this movie.
I'd love to see the same viral marketing campaign for the next one. Or even for other films. With the advent of almost ubiquitous internet awareness, its nearly my dreams come true.
And yes, I'm paying for the Lux Level Seating when I go to this movie, opening night.
Visit www.thegothamtimes.com and look for the smoke in the upper left corner of the first page. It brigns you through to another site, where there is a code hidden in the website. I've been absolutely fascinated with this marketing strategy.
I'm still trying to follow the marketing on this one, with all the various websites playing into it. It's been a fantastic involvement of the public for this movie.
I'd love to see the same viral marketing campaign for the next one. Or even for other films. With the advent of almost ubiquitous internet awareness, its nearly my dreams come true.
And yes, I'm paying for the Lux Level Seating when I go to this movie, opening night.
Visit www.thegothamtimes.com and look for the smoke in the upper left corner of the first page. It brigns you through to another site, where there is a code hidden in the website. I've been absolutely fascinated with this marketing strategy.
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The reason I as asking is because I've found some stuff, including some leaked images of Two-Face in all his painful glory. It's not a picture of incredible quality, but even this puts Tommy Lee Jones to shame. Beware, though, it's a major spoiler:
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3046/lfe5d756bbb5cf91091ec08sp3.jpg
Certainly looks a hell of a lot better thn his predecessor's layer of Day-Glo purple paint.
And if you haven't seen them already, twelve clips have been released. But be careful; some of them might have innocuous-sounding names - like #5, May I Suggest a Travel Agent? - but they're spoilerific.
http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/3046/lfe5d756bbb5cf91091ec08sp3.jpg
Certainly looks a hell of a lot better thn his predecessor's layer of Day-Glo purple paint.
And judging by the trailer, Two-Face's origins have changed slightly for the film. Rather than having acid thrown in his face, Dent's lying in a pool of liquid which seems to be gasoline (in one trailer, the Joker says "I'm a simple kind of guy. I like dynamite. And gunpowder. And ... gasoline!"; as he says "gasoline", it shows Dent lying in the aforementioned puddle), so it seems he's literally getting it burnt off.
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I doubt Nolan will re-cast the Joker, out of respect for Ledger. He's just that kind of guy. The only way I can see another actor playing the Joker in a sequel is if the plot involved someone - like the Riddler - impersonating the Joker to torment Batman.
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It now gets really interesting in the last few days before the movie opens.
http://gothamcablenews.com/
The Joker has defaced a slew of websites, starting with GCN above.
I'm somehow going to convince the Missus to go see this movie this weekend.
http://gothamcablenews.com/
The Joker has defaced a slew of websites, starting with GCN above.
I'm somehow going to convince the Missus to go see this movie this weekend.
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Goodness... Who called it???
Sadly, however, Bale won't play Batman in the JLA movie already in pre-production. As for the Avengers, much of that is still up in the air. One hopes Favreau takes the lead on it, but, we'll see.
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AICN has their first staff-written review of TDK up
Something I found interesting:
That continues my high hopes indeed.
Sadly, however, Bale won't play Batman in the JLA movie already in pre-production. As for the Avengers, much of that is still up in the air. One hopes Favreau takes the lead on it, but, we'll see.
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On Topic!
AICN has their first staff-written review of TDK up
Something I found interesting:
Massawyrm
That continues my high hopes indeed.
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I just saw The Dark Night today. What an awesome film, one of the best I've seen in a while. Heath Ledger as The Joker was amazing, he made such a scary villain. Too bad the Reventón wasn't released a little bit earlier, would've been a much more appropriate car for Bruce Wayne!
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Nyagh, my cinema royally screwed things up. Somehow, the tape that was due to come to our cinemas was accidentally sent to Adelaide, a city 1300 or so kilometres away. I'd pre-booked a ticket for that first sesion, but managed to get moved to a later one ... I'll see it today, just six hours later than originally intended.
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now listening
"Hans Zimmez & James Newton Howard - The Dark Knight OST"
wow 👍
"Hans Zimmez & James Newton Howard - The Dark Knight OST"
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Review time!
Firstly, I'm suprised this film got an M15+ rating. If I were one of the Powers That Be, I would have given it an MA15+. I would have serious reservations about anyone under the age of fifteen seeing this film. It's dark. It's violent. Heath Ledger is downright unsettling at the worst of times. And there's only one man an one film whom I can liken this to (you're going to have to hear me out on this one). Ironically, it's Christopher Nolan's predecessor, Joel Schumacher, and Batman and Robin.
That doesn't mean The Dark Knight is a bad film. Far from it. The reason I'm likening him to Schumacher is simple: because of the influencehe has had on the series. Batman and Robin is probably the worst film of the late twentieth century. It pretty much destoryed the franchise, but that's beside the point. What I'm getting at here is the influence Schumacher had on the film and the character, which was astronomical. Christopher Nolan is possessed of the self same quality: he's had an astronomical effect on the films.
Firstly, I'm going to have to give a moment to Aaron Eckhart as Harvey Dent. It's easy to stick him in as an afterthought because of Ledger's performance, but he deserves his own mention. I thought he was sublime. He oozes charisma as the new District Attorney. He reminded me of Hugh Laurie's Gregory House in that he goes for the million-to-one shots and comes out clean on the other side. You do want to believe in Harvey Dent, and I truly did like the way Two-Face came about. I was expecting the event that triggered his transformation to come about somewhere in the film, but not the way it happened and certainly not the way it was handled.
Of course, there's the obligatory mention of Heath Ledger that comes next. If you hadn't been told it was edger, you wouldn't know who the actor is; he completely immerses himself in the role and you can tell he's having fun. It's almost unfair to see him get all the good lines and some of the film's light-hearted moments (like a scene outside the hospital; his reaction is perfect). At first, I was unsettled by his character and just wated him to keep talking in every scene he was in because I knew that once he stopped, something bad - and probably brutal - was going to happen. I knew that was Nolan's intention, but I wasn't prepared for just how well he pulled it off. Kudos also go to Zimmer and Howard, the composers, who often build up the tension with a particular musical cue at the beginning of the film that you associate with the Joker and his violent acts, but later in the film they'll either play the sound and nothing happens on-screen (thus building up your expectations of what's about to happen, but it comes to an anti-climax), or just have the Joker do something evil without bothering with the sound cue (thus taking you by surprise). They've clearly studied their Hitchcock, because it truly is what we don'tsee that firghtens us the most.
Christian Bale, on the other hand, is of similar calibre. His performance is a lot more subtle than Leger's, but no less spectacular. True, I would have liked a few more scenes - or slightly longer ones - where he's Bruce Wayne as opposed to Batman, but it's moot point. Meanwhile, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman are their usual selves, which is good, because a film like this needs some kind of stablity. Gary Oldman is also excellent because now he actually gets stuff to do (which he's never really had before in a Batfilm), while Kate Holmes' replacement Maggie Gyllenhaal is anything but forgettable, unlike her predecessor.
Plot-wise, it was great. I remember Joss Whedon - yes, him again - once saying that he saw the trailer to Batman Returns with the Penguin and Catwoman plotting to frame Batmn for crimes he didn't commit, and Whedon being disappointed because he knew there was no story. Instead of framing him, you're supposed to try and corrupt him; break him, take away what he loves, and drag him down to your level so that even if he wins, you don't lose because he's now no different to you. And that seems to be The Dark Knight's ethos; it's almost a superhero film some sixteen years in the making, and it's trying to ake up for lost time (which it does admirably). Yes, I think the comparisons to Heat, The Godfather Part II and The Empire Strikes Back are completely justified. I also think that the finale really worked. You don't need an action set-piece to serve as your climax, especially in a character-driven film like this because it just feels like action for the sake of action. In fact, I really think the final scene of this film is a lot like the final scene of Batman Begins, setting up the next film. And while there's no clear indication of who the villain will be this time, it's certainly going to go in an interesting direction.
That said, there were a few minor flaws about it (and discussing them will bring about spoilers, but you were warned). Two, really. The first involved a scene where the Joker was taken into custody. I have no problems with the scene in and of itself, but merely one shot during his subsequent escape. A bomb is implanted in a man's stomach and in the fetmoseconds before the bomb actually becomes a fireball, you can see the man himself explode a little. It's too quick for you to actually see anything like body parts flying about, but it's not too quick for it not to register what happened. I just have to ask, was it really necessary? I've read reviews criticising it for its violent tendencies, but this is the only time I think it crosses the line into sadism: one half-seconf shot.
The second is the way Batman's supersonar device was shown. We actually see parts of the film fro his perspective when he uses the device, and I just found the sequence to be jarring and overly bright. I couldn't really follow what was happening with it. I understood the basics of it, but the specifics left me a little uncertain at times, and somehow, it just didn't look right. It's hardly a problem, though; certainly nothing like the "Officer, I am a Gotham Cty District Attorney; let me pass" (poor delivery) and "We're right atop the main hub of the city's water supply, and if that train gets here, the pressure will spike ..." (useless exposition) scenes in Batman Begins.
That doesn't mean The Dark Knight is a bad film. Far from it. The reason I'm likening him to Schumacher is simple: because of the influencehe has had on the series. Batman and Robin is probably the worst film of the late twentieth century. It pretty much destoryed the franchise, but that's beside the point. What I'm getting at here is the influence Schumacher had on the film and the character, which was astronomical. Christopher Nolan is possessed of the self same quality: he's had an astronomical effect on the films.
Firstly, I'm going to have to give a moment to Aaron Eckhart as Harvey Dent. It's easy to stick him in as an afterthought because of Ledger's performance, but he deserves his own mention. I thought he was sublime. He oozes charisma as the new District Attorney. He reminded me of Hugh Laurie's Gregory House in that he goes for the million-to-one shots and comes out clean on the other side. You do want to believe in Harvey Dent, and I truly did like the way Two-Face came about. I was expecting the event that triggered his transformation to come about somewhere in the film, but not the way it happened and certainly not the way it was handled.
Of course, there's the obligatory mention of Heath Ledger that comes next. If you hadn't been told it was edger, you wouldn't know who the actor is; he completely immerses himself in the role and you can tell he's having fun. It's almost unfair to see him get all the good lines and some of the film's light-hearted moments (like a scene outside the hospital; his reaction is perfect). At first, I was unsettled by his character and just wated him to keep talking in every scene he was in because I knew that once he stopped, something bad - and probably brutal - was going to happen. I knew that was Nolan's intention, but I wasn't prepared for just how well he pulled it off. Kudos also go to Zimmer and Howard, the composers, who often build up the tension with a particular musical cue at the beginning of the film that you associate with the Joker and his violent acts, but later in the film they'll either play the sound and nothing happens on-screen (thus building up your expectations of what's about to happen, but it comes to an anti-climax), or just have the Joker do something evil without bothering with the sound cue (thus taking you by surprise). They've clearly studied their Hitchcock, because it truly is what we don'tsee that firghtens us the most.
Christian Bale, on the other hand, is of similar calibre. His performance is a lot more subtle than Leger's, but no less spectacular. True, I would have liked a few more scenes - or slightly longer ones - where he's Bruce Wayne as opposed to Batman, but it's moot point. Meanwhile, Michael Caine and Morgan Freeman are their usual selves, which is good, because a film like this needs some kind of stablity. Gary Oldman is also excellent because now he actually gets stuff to do (which he's never really had before in a Batfilm), while Kate Holmes' replacement Maggie Gyllenhaal is anything but forgettable, unlike her predecessor.
Plot-wise, it was great. I remember Joss Whedon - yes, him again - once saying that he saw the trailer to Batman Returns with the Penguin and Catwoman plotting to frame Batmn for crimes he didn't commit, and Whedon being disappointed because he knew there was no story. Instead of framing him, you're supposed to try and corrupt him; break him, take away what he loves, and drag him down to your level so that even if he wins, you don't lose because he's now no different to you. And that seems to be The Dark Knight's ethos; it's almost a superhero film some sixteen years in the making, and it's trying to ake up for lost time (which it does admirably). Yes, I think the comparisons to Heat, The Godfather Part II and The Empire Strikes Back are completely justified. I also think that the finale really worked. You don't need an action set-piece to serve as your climax, especially in a character-driven film like this because it just feels like action for the sake of action. In fact, I really think the final scene of this film is a lot like the final scene of Batman Begins, setting up the next film. And while there's no clear indication of who the villain will be this time, it's certainly going to go in an interesting direction.
That said, there were a few minor flaws about it (and discussing them will bring about spoilers, but you were warned). Two, really. The first involved a scene where the Joker was taken into custody. I have no problems with the scene in and of itself, but merely one shot during his subsequent escape. A bomb is implanted in a man's stomach and in the fetmoseconds before the bomb actually becomes a fireball, you can see the man himself explode a little. It's too quick for you to actually see anything like body parts flying about, but it's not too quick for it not to register what happened. I just have to ask, was it really necessary? I've read reviews criticising it for its violent tendencies, but this is the only time I think it crosses the line into sadism: one half-seconf shot.
The second is the way Batman's supersonar device was shown. We actually see parts of the film fro his perspective when he uses the device, and I just found the sequence to be jarring and overly bright. I couldn't really follow what was happening with it. I understood the basics of it, but the specifics left me a little uncertain at times, and somehow, it just didn't look right. It's hardly a problem, though; certainly nothing like the "Officer, I am a Gotham Cty District Attorney; let me pass" (poor delivery) and "We're right atop the main hub of the city's water supply, and if that train gets here, the pressure will spike ..." (useless exposition) scenes in Batman Begins.
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It might be in the next film, should there be one. After all, they changed for the model for this one.
They released the soundtrack, finally? Have to check iTunes then. 👍
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I wouldn't expect Batman to drive anything-- besides the batmobile-- but a Murcielago (bat).
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Oh wow..... good review Do you race?!!! 👍
Went to watch the movie today with my friend and was quite lucky enough not only to get to watch the movie on time, but we got THX and get to seat in the middle row and had to only pay RM12.00!!!!!
(yeah, RM6 per person. Probably was like <US$2) I think the last Batman movie I watched was Batman & Robin. (no, that was really long ago, didn't watch Batman Begins though 
) But yeah, it was a good movie to watch even when it was sort of dragged a little too long 👍 (had to sit inside for 2.5 hours and my leg started to cramp once I got out of my seat
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I don't know if I'm going to make a review of the movie or not, but both me and my friend agreed it was an 8.5/10 for the movie.....
Went to watch the movie today with my friend and was quite lucky enough not only to get to watch the movie on time, but we got THX and get to seat in the middle row and had to only pay RM12.00!!!!!
(yeah, RM6 per person. Probably was like <US$2) I think the last Batman movie I watched was Batman & Robin. (no, that was really long ago, didn't watch Batman Begins though ) But yeah, it was a good movie to watch even when it was sort of dragged a little too long 👍 (had to sit inside for 2.5 hours and my leg started to cramp once I got out of my seat)I don't know if I'm going to make a review of the movie or not, but both me and my friend agreed it was an 8.5/10 for the movie.....
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Muchos gracias.
I could go on all night about how the film is made of awesome, but my comments would largely go ignored because no-one else has really seen it and there's a hell of a lot worthy of discussion on a more thematic level.
I have to say, though, Christopher Nolan did the impossible and managed to get himself a spot on my list of favourite screen writers, which was until now pretty much exclusively populated by Joss Whedon.
I could go on all night about how the film is made of awesome, but my comments would largely go ignored because no-one else has really seen it and there's a hell of a lot worthy of discussion on a more thematic level.
I have to say, though, Christopher Nolan did the impossible and managed to get himself a spot on my list of favourite screen writers, which was until now pretty much exclusively populated by Joss Whedon.
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Reventón;3090471
Yes it was and its totally sick! Dont listen it when you are driving
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What tracks do you regard to as the best of the album besides Aggressive Expansion? That was the first song I've heard, and I love it. 👍
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I like "I'm Not A Hero" a lot. "A Dark Knight" is a cool track too.It's like a compilation track of whole album and thatswhy it's 17 minutes long. 👍
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Well here is a part of my review. It is only half completed, but I'll try to update it soon.....
http://muzaffarmusa.blogspot.com/2008/07/batmanthe-dark-knight-review.html
http://muzaffarmusa.blogspot.com/2008/07/batmanthe-dark-knight-review.html
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i watched it last night, and thought Heath Ledger's performance was brilliant. His character was so believable and creepy...it was kinda hard to watch without being sad, knowing that this was the role that ultimately cost his life.
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