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"The real racing simulator" /= "The real car ownership simulator".
He did blame track layout too, twice if I remember correctly (Corkscrew and fake straight).
Changes to GT Auto or New Features.
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"The real racing simulator" /= "The real car ownership simulator".
He did blame track layout too, twice if I remember correctly (Corkscrew and fake straight).
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Ofcourse the aim of any sim is to blur the lines between virtual and reality but only in those aspect where it matters in a videogame, the driving/racing experience, the closer it gets the more it's a simulation (and that means getting multiple elements like for example physics, visuals and sound working together as best as possible).
That means you get part of the sensation of what it's like in real life but at no point of playing GT5 I was ever in doubt I was driving an actual car instead of a bunch of pixels.
There are ofcourse additional elements to enjoy in GT5 besides driving and I actually like the fact you have to change oil at regular intervals and that any new car needs to be broken in just as it is in real life.
To be honest, I could however do without permanent power loss after a certain amount of mileage for example, I know it's realistic but right now it just seems like a chore without the GT Auto engine restoration actually restoring your engine when it happens (only those restore tickets do that and they are in short supply).
Adding things like changing wiper blades which is relevant in real life but just trivial in the context of a videogame (and even when it does have an effect, it just becomes an annoyance instead of a real attribute).
They need to focus on the core of what's enjoyable to experience and not overcomplicate it by adding things which clearly aren't only for the sake of realism which they can never fully replicate anyway.
Another thing, having all this additional maintenance and caring/being responsible for your car stuff would perhaps not be that bad if your garage included only 1 or 2 cars but unlike real life most GT5 players tend to own hundreds if not over a thousand cars.
That's the nice thing of videogames, playing out your fantasies as realistic as possible without having to worry about mundane stuff, my fantasies don't include changing wiper blades.
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Another thing, having all this additional maintenance and caring/being responsible for your car stuff would perhaps not be that bad if your garage included only 1 or 2 cars but unlike real life most GT5 players tend to own hundreds if not over a thousand cars.
That's the nice thing of videogames, playing out your fantasies as realistic as possible without having to worry about mundane stuff, my fantasies don't include changing wiper blades.
Actually it is more realistic not having to do virtual car maintenance (like we have to do right now and he wants more) because millionaires, people with huge car collections, don't do it themselves; and those who do do it for fun with at most 5 of their cars.
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- bigblockprius666
What I want to know, is if the realistic damage in the game could affect more important aspects of the car. Such as brake fade. If you put on heavy damage, ABS off, TCS off, and drive around long enough, could you actually lose braking power? I haven't had the time to test this though
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Ok guys. I have another topic to discuss.
The GT Auto lacks a few things. Alongside my statements are some examples.
- We can all agree there is no point in getting a car wash since the car never gets dirty (except rally tracks but the car doesn't stay dirty). So why not let the car stay dirty, and get dirty from all tracks? And maybe have burnt rubber on the car, since we all gotta burn some rubber at some point, right?
- The oil change. Why not give us an opportunity to change more than just oil? Cooling fluid etc.
- The more you drive the more worn will the tires get. (Even from race to race) So you'd have to buy new tires eventually because the tires will get worn out. And also get the chance to puncture or maybe blow the tire as well.
- Rust. As you drive with your favorite car on almost every event, or a lot online, the car starts to rust. So it would be great to have the chance to replace rusty parts with new ones. Wouldn't it look cool cruising online with a VW Corrado VR6 with different colored fenders because you had to replace the rusty ones with new ones?
- As for the paint. Why not give us more matte paint, and maybe some sparkling metallic? The metallic in GT5 looks a bit dull.
Anything else you'd like to see as a new feature in the GT Auto?
The GT Auto lacks a few things. Alongside my statements are some examples.
- We can all agree there is no point in getting a car wash since the car never gets dirty (except rally tracks but the car doesn't stay dirty). So why not let the car stay dirty, and get dirty from all tracks? And maybe have burnt rubber on the car, since we all gotta burn some rubber at some point, right?
- The oil change. Why not give us an opportunity to change more than just oil? Cooling fluid etc.
- The more you drive the more worn will the tires get. (Even from race to race) So you'd have to buy new tires eventually because the tires will get worn out. And also get the chance to puncture or maybe blow the tire as well.
- Rust. As you drive with your favorite car on almost every event, or a lot online, the car starts to rust. So it would be great to have the chance to replace rusty parts with new ones. Wouldn't it look cool cruising online with a VW Corrado VR6 with different colored fenders because you had to replace the rusty ones with new ones?
- As for the paint. Why not give us more matte paint, and maybe some sparkling metallic? The metallic in GT5 looks a bit dull.
Anything else you'd like to see as a new feature in the GT Auto?
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- ProjectWHaT
Be able to RM all premiums. Also for the lawlz, having to change windshield wipers.
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The ability to punch them if they miss a spot. In the face.... Hard. 
But, seriously.
Wheel Rotation
Wiper Replacement
Plaster "Gran Turismo" on the windshield, and car panels
Get Used wheels
Install interior items
Repair Suspension Geometry
TREE'd on wipers
But, seriously.
Wheel Rotation
Wiper Replacement
Plaster "Gran Turismo" on the windshield, and car panels
Get Used wheels
Install interior items
Repair Suspension Geometry
TREE'd on wipers
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- Lotus380
Some of the things that come to mind include paint correction for those nasty side swipes. I don't think many would like having to monitor tires. Maybe if the game had actual roads and speed limits, but these are race tracks. Your economy tires shred easy at 200mph. Swappable steering wheels could be easy to implement, like aero parts.
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Yeah I totally agree. Somewhat like the old GT series LM cars.. They looked pretty fab.
- AHAHAHAH, I had to laugh at that last one. Would be pretty sweet if the wipers worn so you had to change, and had a couple of brands to choose from, yes.
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Haha good one!
@Lotus
Yeah true.
Ah yeah! That would be pretty sweet. And maybe the seats aswell
Yeah I totally agree. Somewhat like the old GT series LM cars.. They looked pretty fab.
- AHAHAHAH, I had to laugh at that last one. Would be pretty sweet if the wipers worn so you had to change, and had a couple of brands to choose from, yes.
@Marcus
Haha good one!
@Lotus
Yeah true.
Ah yeah! That would be pretty sweet. And maybe the seats aswell
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- Punknoodle_Nick
Some good ideas about interior additions etc, more fluid servicing. I would also like to see general tune up things like swapping fuel filter, spark plugs etc.
One think I would love to see is a simulated dyno room where you see the car getting tuned on the dyno. I would love it if cars could be tuned on different fuels, like E85. The turbo cars could gain more power from it but sacrifice fuel efficiency, and have to pit more often.
We could go crazy and have to upgrade fuel systems, oil systems like dry dumping an engine because during high g corners the car could suffer oil starvation and blow a motor... These are getting a tad ridiculous but would be awesome.
The dyno tuning thing is top of the list for me though..
One think I would love to see is a simulated dyno room where you see the car getting tuned on the dyno. I would love it if cars could be tuned on different fuels, like E85. The turbo cars could gain more power from it but sacrifice fuel efficiency, and have to pit more often.
We could go crazy and have to upgrade fuel systems, oil systems like dry dumping an engine because during high g corners the car could suffer oil starvation and blow a motor... These are getting a tad ridiculous but would be awesome.
The dyno tuning thing is top of the list for me though..
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I totally agree. Plus the air tunnel stuff you could see in the GT5 intro, but never got to use..
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Livery Editors/Wings/Wheels/Bodykits can be put in the GT Auto Category. The car wash/oil change/engine and chassis refreshing/useless animations can disappear forever.
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- TPC_Raccooon23
- CRaccoon23
Sorry, but these just sound like headaches to me. I would not enjoy the game knowing I have to worry about all of this stuff, especially when I get around to owning hundreds of cars.
I would not miss them either to be honest.
We seriously needs this. I was so disappointed that in GT5 only 17 of the 200+ premiums has access to RM.
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- Punknoodle_Nick
I'm sorry to say too but I don't agree with the rusty panel thing, that isn't realistic at all. My car is 23 years old and has no rust.. I bet rust isn't a problem on practically any race car
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IIRC, GT3 had DOT 5 Brake Fluid as an optional upgrade.
Transmission Fluid is a must too
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Transmission Fluid is a must too
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- 3,211
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- Punknoodle_Nick
Yes! I want brake fade, caused by too small brakes and non high temp fluid! Get a few laps and the car struggles to stop, then see a noticeable improvement with bigger rotors and race pads. And with race pads, poor cold performance
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My 908 was pretty grimy after Le Mans. I'd like to see this improved upon though, it should not take a 24 hour race to make a car dirty. I would expect any good racing team to wash their cars after every single race.
I think interior customisation needs to happen, how deep they go with it depends on the how much interiors are affected by going through the various stages of weight reduction. I'd be happy with just a choice of steering wheels though.
I don't know if the fabled livery editor is going to be in the game or not, but if not I suppose I could settle for a choice of stickers and racing stripes.
I think interior customisation needs to happen, how deep they go with it depends on the how much interiors are affected by going through the various stages of weight reduction. I'd be happy with just a choice of steering wheels though.
I don't know if the fabled livery editor is going to be in the game or not, but if not I suppose I could settle for a choice of stickers and racing stripes.
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Yeah I know, weird the weight reduction in GT5 doesn't have any visual effects.
And livery editor or not, as you say some stickers and racing stripes would be great too. Plus some PD made RM liveries, like the RM cars in the old GT games..
Yeah engine and drivetrain swap would be nice. I hope they do, Kaz was mysterious as always
And livery editor or not, as you say some stickers and racing stripes would be great too. Plus some PD made RM liveries, like the RM cars in the old GT games..
Yeah engine and drivetrain swap would be nice. I hope they do, Kaz was mysterious as always
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- Young_God122
I think one of two things should happen. Either (1) allow dirt, burns and rubber marks to accumulate on the car so that the car wash actually has a purpose and (2) completely remove the car wash feature and not allow the cars to get dirty. Personally, I prefer the second option. Though I'm all for immersion in the GT series, I think that the whole idea of washing your car is a little much.
Agree 👍
Agree fully, but should be given the option as to whether or not to use this feature.
No. 👎 Again, I'm all for immersion in GT, but I AM NOT a fan of my car rusting
Besides, rust really only happens if the car isn't properly maintained.Agree with this as well. There should be a greater visual difference between the different color types in GT6. In GT5 the only one I could really see a noticeable difference in was the chrome paints.
Not really... The standard things are (I'm sure) going to be included. Aftermarket parts, tires, paint will all probably be available in GT Auto. Anything that is related to the exterior/interior physical appearance of the car and maintenance should be in GT Auto.
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The ability to add either amber, red or blue lightbar and white strobes to front and rear bumber of any non-racecar, including concept cars. And an ON/OFF switch for the lights mapped to the "Flash headlights" button.
NO SIREN THOU!
And a windshield/rear window sticker denoting Safety car/pace car/medic car.
Or hope PD gives us a functional safety car from the get go.
NO SIREN THOU!
And a windshield/rear window sticker denoting Safety car/pace car/medic car.
Or hope PD gives us a functional safety car from the get go.
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Prodigy, point(s) taken! Glad to be taken serious about this and we all can discuss our thoughts 
And even tho I disagree with your car wash thought, since it has been a feature since the very beginning, I have to say I somewhat agree also. No need for it when the game doesn't do anything which requires us to use it. I remember in GT1 or GT2 where it actually had an effect though.. If the car got "slippery" and oversteered a lot, give it a car wash and it handled good again.
And yeah Savolainen. A real functional safety car is a must.
And even tho I disagree with your car wash thought, since it has been a feature since the very beginning, I have to say I somewhat agree also. No need for it when the game doesn't do anything which requires us to use it. I remember in GT1 or GT2 where it actually had an effect though.. If the car got "slippery" and oversteered a lot, give it a car wash and it handled good again.And yeah Savolainen. A real functional safety car is a must.
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I personally feel like most things would get un-reasonable and tedious really quick.
- I'd like dirt and rubber to actually build up fairly quickly on my cars so the car wash is actually useful. No way would I get rid of it, since it's always been there. The nostalgia man.
- Paint system for individual body parts; mirrors, wing etc
- Streamlined paint system, I'm fine with collecting paint - but make it much quicker to look through - and see real time preview on the car before its painted.
- Include the tuning shop within GT auto, since you can buy aero parts and wheels anyways. Also see physical changes when adding parts, like see the car lower when you add a racing sups. kit, or see a close up of the tires to see the tread change (optional width change as well) when buying ties, etc. Just make the buying tuning parts process more interactive
- keep everything else
- I'd like dirt and rubber to actually build up fairly quickly on my cars so the car wash is actually useful. No way would I get rid of it, since it's always been there. The nostalgia man.
- Paint system for individual body parts; mirrors, wing etc
- Streamlined paint system, I'm fine with collecting paint - but make it much quicker to look through - and see real time preview on the car before its painted.
- Include the tuning shop within GT auto, since you can buy aero parts and wheels anyways. Also see physical changes when adding parts, like see the car lower when you add a racing sups. kit, or see a close up of the tires to see the tread change (optional width change as well) when buying ties, etc. Just make the buying tuning parts process more interactive
- keep everything else
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