Cutting corners in Indy

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They should be DQ'd rightaway ! why would they deserve another chance ? they chose to do this thinking they can getway. What are we ? 14 ?

I'd like to see that too, but it'll never happen, way too many people would whine and it would be bad PR. If they reset the boards and either fix the problem or say they'll DQ, I'll be happy.
 
They should be DQ'd rightaway ! why would they deserve another chance ? they chose to do this thinking they can getway. What are we ? 14 ?

I don't think they should be DQ'd. It's a video game trying to simulate the reality of driving a real car. Sony, PD or whoever is running the show need to have clear and defined settings for lap DQ without them people will always push the limits.

Give an inch, take a mile.
 
If they let this happen, I'm out. I dont want to be a part of it.

All cheaters will lose at the end anyways. But the fact that they are stealing fair player's spots is unacceptable.

I'm still going to try my hardest, but if I (and other clean drivers) don't make the cut, well then shame on Sony.
 
I wonder if sony/PD picked this on purpose to expose cheaters. Don't forget there was a massive amount of complaining over the john deere club. I wonder if that's why they picked Indy.
 
I don't think they should be DQ'd. It's a video game trying to simulate the reality of driving a real car. Sony, PD or whoever is running the show need to have clear and defined settings for lap DQ without them people will always push the limits.

Give an inch, take a mile.

a video game ? this road end in a real race car's seat !
 
blah... just verified that the top 6 in the NE are all cheating.
and here I thought it was mostly confined to "real america" in the midwest and south.
 
I wonder if sony/PD picked this on purpose to expose cheaters. Don't forget there was a massive amount of complaining over the john deere club. I wonder if that's why they picked Indy.

That would be hilarious.
 
Someone posted this on the playstation forum.

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If this is not cleaned up...It may be for me too. Unless I find/ start a race series that interest me.

I don't see why you would quit GT over this. Our community has so many race series events opened up right now. But GTA isn't even about skill level as a driver at this point. 👎 Shame on Sony / PD / Nissan for recycling tracks we already used in the past. Lazyness at it's finest.
 
How will PD know exactly who cut and who didn't when only the top 10 replays are available? Lets say they wipe the top 10 times off the board, will the next 10 replays become viewable? If not, there is no way to check everyone's lap.

I think what might happen this week is that Indy will be thrown out the window and they will just use the top 16 Toscana times from each region to advance to the next round.

Btw, it really sucks that I was eagerly waiting for 2 weeks for round 2 to start only to find out that its a bunch of crap. Its kinda like waiting 6 years for a game to be released and finding out it doesn't have leaderboards. (ok disregard that last part, that was a low blow. :))
 
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a video game ? this road end in a real race car's seat !

I know but there are things you can do in a game that you can't do IRL and things IRL that you can't do in game. Don't get me wrong I think to cut is wrong. But let's say I put in a top time and think I can shave some time on turn 10 (the one were he first cuts, I think is 10) and I do a better time, but after review I notice I cut to much, but the time is already in nothing I can do about it now.

The next player sees my ghost lap and says, "damn, he cut that turn." So he does the same only this time he cuts just a little more than I did and so it repeats and repeats until the lap DQ factor comes into play. In this case there is no DQ.

That's why there needs to be clear and defined settings for DQ. I see this a 100% fault of the organizers of the competition. And I definitely think they need to make a statement ASAP.

Plus I have great respect for those that are still maintaining clean laps. 👍
 
it'll be some bull **** if we end up having to cut the track come Sunday. While it will be satisfying to humiliate the SOBs that have already started this BS by showing them what real drivers can do when forced to use their tactics... argh I don't even know what to say, it will COMPLETELY illegitimize the integrity of this competition if we have to prove our skill by cutting the track like this. I've competed in "Pro Gaming" competitions where your racing for a big check, and regrettably embraced the gayness of track cutting/wall-bounces for the sake of cash, but considering the prize/opportunity we are racing for in this competition, how can we possibly take Nissan and GT Academy seriously if were forced to blatantly disregard track and racing etiquette. This HAS to be fixed.

Apologies for the rant, but i've been fuming since this morning when I checked the leaderboards. When it comes down to it, if every1 abandons their integrity/morals and embraces the cuts, the same people will still be 1st thru 16, with or without the lawn mowing. Its just ****ed up if were forced to do this, because i'd expect the majority of us would do next to anything to have a career in motor racing.

I completely agree. While we still would end up on top if we were forced to do the same thing it would most certainly make us feel dirty in the end. There is a honorable and respectable way to do things and i think the clean racers acknowledge this because of their love for racing and the sport as a whole. If the governing body does little to correct this situation, and we are still forced to become lawn mowers.. then we lose a lot of respect not only for the competition in which we dedicate a part of our lives to, but for our own integrity as well
 
I posted this on Sony's boards, I think if more people took this sort of stance on the situation they would be forced to do something or lose a lot of face, whats the point of a contest to drive a real race car if your going to give that chance to somebody who clearly doesn't care about proper driving, and will clearly do something that if you did in a real race would get you Dqed, or at the very least some sort of stop and go penalty.




Hey Sony/ PD why dont you guys get a clue and wipe the Indy boards or ban the cutters and replace them with people who were on the bubble in round 1. I would think that by allowing the times that were set by cutting to stand all it does is give people who don't really have a true love and respect for the sport of driving a chance to ruin it for other people who actually want to drive the car in a realistic manner. Personally I think anyone who is willing to cheat like that doesn't have the moral integrity to actually be trusted to drive a real race car, and in the end isn't that the purpose of this contest is to give someone a chance to drive that actually deserves a chance? If these times stand I will boycott all Sony/ Pd products from this day on, it'll be back to forza3 which is too bad becuase GT5 has better physics and thats what matters but I don't want to support a company that would condone cheating to get ahead.





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"I honestly don't care if they DQ or not, just tell me now what's fair and not lol. " Exactly!!!

lol but honestly the only reason I personally know I am not in top 16 for Indy in the west is the two turns everyone is cutting.
 
I am so angry at Sony/PD/Nissan. I have a tender little dream of becoming a pro race driver, and I believe I have a (slim) chance to make it to Silverstone. I took most of this week off work, a big financial sacrifice, so I could focus on my real career goal, racing. Heck I bought a G27 and a new 3d TV recently just for this, maxed out my credit card. And now we have this giant fiasco. I'm so disillusioned, disgusted, dismayed. I just can't understand how the event organizers could be so sloppy, Again.
 
I am so angry at Sony/PD/Nissan. I have a tender little dream of becoming a pro race driver, and I believe I have a (slim) chance to make it to Silverstone. I took most of this week off work, a big financial sacrifice, so I could focus on my real career goal, racing. Heck I bought a G27 and a new 3d TV recently just for this, maxed out my credit card. And now we have this giant fiasco. I'm so disillusioned, disgusted, dismayed. I just can't understand how the event organizers could be so sloppy, Again.

I wouldn't say maxing out your car to get a 3D was absolutely necessary but I understand the dream.
 
guys. get off your high horse and go read this:

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Seriously?...... you should just leave now before you get ripped apart for that. I don't recall Mark ever cutting through the middle of the track 👎
 
High horse? You don't get it.

What people are doing could be considered cheating and get them dqed. What we need is to know for sure if they are allowing this or not so we can move on.
 
Add another cheater to the west koji_online. This is getting ridiculous I was 11th west before all this BS, at this point I'm pretty damn sure anyone above R1600Turbo is for sure cutting corners and a couple more into the 30's are doing it on the west. Stuck at work till six today watching this all pan out, oh here's the link for updated leader boards for those who don't have it, all the 1:48's and 1:49's are complete BS times, high 1:50's are believable, I managed 1:51.623 with the damn controller late last night, I would think 1:50.7-1:50.9's are about as fast as reasonably possible without cutting.
 
Seriously?...... you should just leave now before you get ripped apart for that. I don't recall Mark ever cutting through the middle of the track 👎

honestly, I don't like resorting to it, and I would have waited on official word, but this is ending sunday, and going on past judgments from Sony, I didn't want to be left out because everyone else was cutting and I didn't. and "ripped apart"?...now you're resorting to e-threats? I don't drive like this in real life, nor in the game when racing online, but an opportunity is an opportunity.

either way, it sucks A LOT. I wish there were invisible walls keeping it from happening. but if it's allowed, I'd have to be an idiot to not go for it.
 
honestly, I don't like resorting to it, and I would have waited on official word, but this is ending sunday, and going on past judgments from Sony, I didn't want to be left out because everyone else was cutting and I didn't. and "ripped apart"?...now you're resorting to e-threats? I don't drive like this in real life, nor in the game when racing online, but an opportunity is an opportunity.

either way, it sucks A LOT. I wish there were invisible walls keeping it from happening. but if it's allowed, I'd have to be an idiot to not go for it.

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Yes, the competition ends Sunday. You are cheating before hump day.

No one wants to hear it. You are one of the early cheaters who is making things worse. Maybe if it were Saturday, I would believe you were just going along for the ride...but you aren't.
 
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