Drag Racing Mode

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Is it time for PD to finally include a drag race mode?

  • Yes

    Votes: 314 68.6%
  • No

    Votes: 91 19.9%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 53 11.6%

  • Total voters
    458
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There are some who think throwing rocks at each other is also a sport. And if they do it while on bicycles they'll call it probably "rock throwing racing". Well, thank you, but no. There's a lot of skill involved by hitting yourself with a hammer on the thumb - you'll have to completely miss the nail ;)

Sorry folks, they whole concept of drag is very alien to me. And it doesn't even involve fancy dress and make-up ;)
 
I completely suck at drifting and the only drag racing I have ever had was racing 100hp crappy cars against my bro, down on the street where we live, so here goes my two cents:

- Drifting cannot be taken as racing, it's more art than racing, drifting is the establishment of a link between you and your car, feeling the suspension, torque and cautiously steering. It's more suited for surgeon-drivers, because you must establish a relationship with that particular car. I think drifting is awesome, it's not about losing or winning, it's about having fun. ;)

- Drag Racing ( it's Racing, can't you see the name?....:dopey: ) It's the fine art of throttle control, also, you must get a very well made tune of the car, if you want it to cross the line working, I've watched some Drag Racing championships here at Interlagos Autodrome, and the main stars of the show are the mechanics. It's very cool too.

Also, there's class restrictions, like up to 3liter + turbo, or Supercharged V8 and even unlimited class, so you must max the power out and keep the car up to the restrictions and resistant enough to last some races. Tuners will certainly love it. :cool:
 
Drifting is not an art form in my opinion, it still is a sport although not racing.
My comparison would be figure skating, a sport judged by a jury instead of, say, classic ballet which shares some common skills but is not judged as a sport but considered an art form.
Drag racing could be speed skating in sprint form ( but without the corners ) and normal car racing could be speed skating in endurance form or short track.

Anyway i still don't like Drag Racing mafia_boy although i admire your passion for it and i can imagine defending it from your viewpoint.
Hopefully for you it will be included in some form, i will certainly give it a try and maybe be persuaded, although highly unlikely. ;)
 
Also, there's class restrictions, like up to 3liter + turbo, or Supercharged V8 and even unlimited class, so you must max the power out and keep the car up to the restrictions and resistant enough to last some races. Tuners will certainly love it. :cool:
Those may be some odd classes you have in Brazil, but not in NHRA.

The professional classes in NHRA are:
  • Top Fuel
  • Funny Car
  • Pro Stock
... and the sportsman categories are:
  • Competition Eliminator (Handicap start system)
  • Super Stock (Handicap start system)
  • Stock Eliminator (Handicap start system)
  • Super Comp (8.90 index)
  • Super Gas (9.90 index)
  • Super Street (10.90 index)
 
Those may be some odd classes you have in Brazil, but not in NHRA.

:lol:, sad but true, I'm talking about an open crappy championship, where you can take your U$2,000 crap, put in a turbocharger and race by yourself, there's classes divided by time too, like seconds to the quarter-mile, but I don't really know much about it.
 
you can take your U$2,000 crap, put in a turbocharger and race by yourself, there's classes divided by time too, like seconds to the quarter-mile, but I don't really know much about it.


It's called bracket racing,some also will call it E.T. racing.

You run what you brung.
 
Those may be some odd classes you have in Brazil, but not in NHRA.

The professional classes in NHRA are:
  • Top Fuel
  • Funny Car
  • Pro Stock
... and the sportsman categories are:
  • Competition Eliminator (Handicap start system)
  • Super Stock (Handicap start system)
  • Stock Eliminator (Handicap start system)
  • Super Comp (8.90 index)
  • Super Gas (9.90 index)
  • Super Street (10.90 index)

See for us in Australia it's slightly different. We have as our Group 1 categories:
  • Top Fuel
  • Top Alcohol (both dragsters & funny cars race in this against eachother!)
  • Top Doorslammer (you guys call it Pro Modified in the US!)
  • Top Bike
  • Pro Stock (ours is different, 400ci maximum!)
  • Pro Stock Bike

Then we have our Group 2 categories which includes sport compact, and they run heads-up aswell.
 
See for us in Australia it's slightly different. We have as our Group 1 categories:
  • Top Fuel
  • Top Alcohol (both dragsters & funny cars race in this against eachother!)
  • Top Doorslammer (you guys call it Pro Modified in the US!)
  • Top Bike
  • Pro Stock (ours is different, 400ci maximum!)
  • Pro Stock Bike

Then we have our Group 2 categories which includes sport compact, and they run heads-up aswell.
Yeah, I figured it would be a bit different down under. ;)

Here in Sweden we call it Top Doorslammer as well, but otherwise it's pretty much the same as NHRA, except Stock and Super Stock are merged into one category.

Aussie drag racing is awesome but I personally prefer NHRA. Even though we have pretty much the same rules and classes here as in US I'm not a big fan of european drag racing. Everything is so much more professional over there.
 
You should see some of the teams here strittan, just as professional as the guys in the US. The best ones here are from Jim Read Racing (Jim is a 17 time national championship winning driver), and his cars are driven by his son Phil Read (2 time champ), and Martin Stamatis.

Cowin Racing/Rocket Industries (Graeme Cowin, Jim Read's major rival when they were both racing) has joined back in the mix by purchasing a full Top Fuel operation from David Powers, with his son Andrew spending the past few years in the US doing IHRA & NHRA events, and you have Darren Morgan who races his own team seperately to the Cowin's but under the Rocket Industries banner aswell.

Then there's the Santo's Crane's (Santo Rapisarda) cars who has had many different guest drivers over the years including Steve 'pommie' Read. Then there's the Lamattina's, who are carrot farmers who have their own top fuel operation that go well too.
 
I remember seeing a video of Stamatis running the fastest time in Aus. Really not far behind the US. Unfortunately we have quite a dis-jointed Top Fuel team. Andy Carter is by far and away the quickest, he can run 4.6s @ 320. But it's not uncommon to have mostly 4.8/290 runs. It's not helped in having some dodgy weather in the last few seasons.

What amazes me is the speed they reach in the US despite now running 1,000ft everywhere since the horrific death of Scott Kalitta.
 
I believe you mafia_boy, and I think Australian drag racing is very cool as I said. It was only the professionalism in Europe I critisized. :)

Still like NHRA more than ANDRA though, basicly because It's where it was once started and I'm more into the american cars.

The swedish Pro Stock teams are pretty professional though, or some of them are. Malmgren Racing for example. The driver Michael Malmgren have long been one of the absolutely best in Europe, and he was also the first non-American to win an NHRA national event back in 1990, when driving in Competition Eliminator. He has been running in Pro Stock since 1992, he was the first Pro Stock driver in Europe to make a 6 second run and has won two FIA European championships.
 
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I remember seeing a video of Stamatis running the fastest time in Aus. Really not far behind the US.
Yep, ran into the 4.57's, but Phil has the official record with a 4.563.


What amazes me is the speed they reach in the US despite now running 1,000ft everywhere since the horrific death of Scott Kalitta.

Tell me about it, it's absolutely astounding!! Because they are concentrating more on putting the power down earlier, you're getting higher 1000ft speeds than ever before, so if they ran the full 1320 you'd be pretty sure that they would hit the 340mph barrier now, and maybe a 4.3xx ET.
 
It's sad there are'nt any more NHRA races for sport compact,but hopefully when some of the tracks open on the east side I'll see more events.
 
What amazes me is the speed they reach in the US despite now running 1,000ft everywhere since the horrific death of Scott Kalitta.

It is amazing. The NHRA is trying to slow the Top Fuelers and Funny Cars down by shortening the race to 1000 ft. The crewchiefs keep on finding more horsepower and more advanced car set-ups and are still attaining more speed. It'a a never ending battle,who will eventually win ? The NHRA will. Watch and see,in time, you will see horsepower restrictions and or rev limiters put on these cars to slow them down. :grumpy:
 
It is amazing. The NHRA is trying to slow the Top Fuelers and Funny Cars down by shortening the race to 1000 ft. The crewchiefs keep on finding more horsepower and more advanced car set-ups and are still attaining more speed. It'a a never ending battle,who will eventually win ? The NHRA will. Watch and see,in time, you will see horsepower restrictions and or rev limiters put on these cars to slow them down. :grumpy:
Well bro,most people don't have outside logic like you so they do many dumb things.
 
It is amazing. The NHRA is trying to slow the Top Fuelers and Funny Cars down by shortening the race to 1000 ft. The crewchiefs keep on finding more horsepower and more advanced car set-ups and are still attaining more speed. It'a a never ending battle,who will eventually win ? The NHRA will. Watch and see,in time, you will see horsepower restrictions and or rev limiters put on these cars to slow them down. :grumpy:

I don't know how anybody can seriously expect to slow down races involving cars powered by engines from which exhaust gasses exit at such great velocity they produce downforce comparable to what a Formula One car generates at 90 miles per hour.
 
It is amazing. The NHRA is trying to slow the Top Fuelers and Funny Cars down by shortening the race to 1000 ft. The crewchiefs keep on finding more horsepower and more advanced car set-ups and are still attaining more speed. It'a a never ending battle,who will eventually win ? The NHRA will. Watch and see,in time, you will see horsepower restrictions and or rev limiters put on these cars to slow them down. :grumpy:
I'm not a big fan of the fuel classes. However, I think it's wrong to shorten the track instead of changing the regulations about the cars. I mean, drag racing has always been a 1/4 mile. Why not keep the full track length and maybe have 4 to 5000 hp instead of 8000+? No wonder Kalitta's car exploaded like it did with the crazy high nitromethane mixture they're running...
 
I'm not a big fan of the fuel classes. However, I think it's wrong to shorten the track instead of changing the regulations about the cars. I mean, drag racing has always been a 1/4 mile. Why not keep the full track length and maybe have 4 to 5000 hp instead of 8000+? No wonder Kalitta's car exploaded like it did with the crazy high nitromethane mixture they're running...
I think they should just run alcohol.

Strittan,how can I download that game you put a link for?
 
tbh top fuel and funny car is lame. When cars are the same you don't include it to gt5.

Drag racing should be a RWYB day. (run what you brung). People connect to a game session with a drag strip and player list, pick who they wanna run against, invite the person to a race. With the amount of cars in the game the variety should be amazing :]
 
And the strip is in spectate the whole time from a fixed camera high up so people waiting to race (yes there'd be a queue) can watch just like being there. (I maybe love santa pod.)
 
It is amazing. The NHRA is trying to slow the Top Fuelers and Funny Cars down by shortening the race to 1000 ft. The crewchiefs keep on finding more horsepower and more advanced car set-ups and are still attaining more speed. It'a a never ending battle,who will eventually win ? The NHRA will. Watch and see,in time, you will see horsepower restrictions and or rev limiters put on these cars to slow them down. :grumpy:

I don't know how anybody can seriously expect to slow down races involving cars powered by engines from which exhaust gasses exit at such great velocity they produce downforce comparable to what a Formula One car generates at 90 miles per hour.

I'm not a big fan of the fuel classes. However, I think it's wrong to shorten the track instead of changing the regulations about the cars. I mean, drag racing has always been a 1/4 mile. Why not keep the full track length and maybe have 4 to 5000 hp instead of 8000+? No wonder Kalitta's car exploaded like it did with the crazy high nitromethane mixture they're running...

What NHRA should do is two things:

1. Reduce the percentage of nitromethane that goes into the motor. Currently it's at 90%. They ran it at 85% for a few years with decent success, only having it at 90% for Denver due to the altitude. If this was reduced to for example 70%, you would see a huge drop in power figures.

2. Change the size of the motors being used for TF. Currently they run a 500ci motor with a 20% overdrive limit on the supercharger. If they changed this to for example, a 400ci motor with the same supercharger overdrive OR had the same 500ci with a reduced overdrive limit (say 10%), then you will see the power drop aswell.

There are ways of slowing them down, but NHRA doesn't want them to wind up being slower than their Top Alcohol cars which are already running in the 5.1's on the 1/4.
 
Drag racing should be a RWYB day. (run what you brung). People connect to a game session with a drag strip and player list, pick who they wanna run against, invite the person to a race. With the amount of cars in the game the variety should be amazing :]
I'm all for it, but they have to make a handicap system because otherwise we're talking lame big time. I mean, how fun would it be to have a heads-up race between a Veyron and a Civic? Not fun at all I'd say...

This is how to make it exciting. Let's say I set my dial at 10.54 and you set your dial at 13.22. Then you will go green 2.68 seconds before I do, simple as that! 👍

And the strip is in spectate the whole time from a fixed camera high up so people waiting to race (yes there'd be a queue) can watch just like being there. (I maybe love santa pod.)
Sorry, but if they will finally include a proper drag strip, I don't think Santa Pod should be the one. I'm gonna keep nagging about Infineon, because the road course which surrounds the drag racing facility is likely to be in the game, and the drag strip itself is of top notch NHRA quality.

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What NHRA should do is two things:

1. Reduce the percentage of nitromethane that goes into the motor. Currently it's at 90%. They ran it at 85% for a few years with decent success, only having it at 90% for Denver due to the altitude. If this was reduced to for example 70%, you would see a huge drop in power figures.

2. Change the size of the motors being used for TF. Currently they run a 500ci motor with a 20% overdrive limit on the supercharger. If they changed this to for example, a 400ci motor with the same supercharger overdrive OR had the same 500ci with a reduced overdrive limit (say 10%), then you will see the power drop aswell.

There are ways of slowing them down, but NHRA doesn't want them to wind up being slower than their Top Alcohol cars which are already running in the 5.1's on the 1/4.
Making the engines smaller is not necessary. In fact, that would just be stupid, as the engines would then break easier.

If they only reduce the nitromethane mixture to 70-80% the cars will be much safer, and still a lot faster than the alcohol cars. You know, Top Fuel dragsters haven't been in the 5's since the early 90's, and what did the engines produce back then? 4000 hp maybe?
 
It's time for players to be able to go to Test Track and be able to set up 16 cars fully tuned or stock (whatever we wish), and let them battle for acceleration and top speed.

I cannot wait to make some awesome matchups.
 
I'm all for it, but they have to make a handicap system because otherwise we're talking lame big time. I mean, how fun would it be to have a heads-up race between a Veyron and a Civic? Not fun at all I'd say...

This is how to make it exciting. Let's say I set my dial at 10.54 and you set your dial at 13.22. Then you will go green 2.68 seconds before I do, simple as that! 👍

If i'm honest, the situation you mention is what I would like XD That's why I suggested you challenge manually instead of the system assigning pairs.

But people with their hot civics taking on ferraris is what free run days are all about :D
And yes santa pod wasn't a suggestion for location simply saying why I feel strongly about this idea XD.
Infeneon raceway featured in GT4 so it's entirely possible :D
 
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