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You need to watch this movie..
A propaganda film from 1936 that has become a cult hit because of its dated outlook on marijuana use, Reefer Madness is the height of camp entertainment. Framed as a "documentary," the film is narrated by a high school principal imparting his wisdom and experiences with the demon weed. The bulk of the film focuses on almost slapstick scenes of high school kids smoking pot and quickly going insane, playing "evil" jazz music, being committed, and going on a murder spree. Meant to be an important and affecting cautionary tale, this dated black-and-white film's true value is in its many entertaining moments of unintended hilarity.

This is what some think of the government efforts to educate us about drugs .
 
emad
Casual use of marijuana will also not effect your mind in any way. In the end, it all boils down to how responsible you choose to be with the substance you're taking
While I'm not 100% on this, I gotta disagree with you. I don't hang out with people when they are smoking(not since early 90's), so I don't know which of my friends smoked how much. But IMO, after smoking consistently for years(even casually) it will have affect on your brain. Trust me, people around you notice it, but they just don't wan't say anything about it. I talk about this stuff with my buddies sometimes, but only between guys like me, who's never touch them, or with the one's who's quit. People notice stuff about you, even when you, yourself doens't notice.
 
I said it before, and I'll say it again, the role of those education programs is to prevent first use, not to say "wow, smoking up is fun! and you say this is less harmful than drinking and smoking cigarettes?!?! Fantastic, let's go get some more deliscious brownies"
 
Look all drugs affect you in some way . Thats what drugs do . People have used drugs of some sort since they learned to walk . Some drugs are controllable some are not some are killers . saying pot and heroin are the same is a joke . Pot should be classed and regulated like beer . Pot is less harmfull than Vodka ..so why do you get arrested for pot ?
Hers a link on government drug propaganda http://faculty.ncwc.edu/toconnor/pol/495lect12.htm
I got into this when my son had to do a paper on class discrimination and race discrimination in the US and we discovered how much racism entered into the pot and other drug laws.
 
I'll use this opportunity to point out that crack was introduced to the African-American community in the 1960's-1970's by the FBI as a way to combat the growing Black Panther Party.
 
ledhed
You need to watch this movie..
A propaganda film from 1936 that has become a cult hit because of its dated outlook on marijuana use, Reefer Madness is the height of camp entertainment. Framed as a "documentary," the film is narrated by a high school principal imparting his wisdom and experiences with the demon weed. The bulk of the film focuses on almost slapstick scenes of high school kids smoking pot and quickly going insane, playing "evil" jazz music, being committed, and going on a murder spree. Meant to be an important and affecting cautionary tale, this dated black-and-white film's true value is in its many entertaining moments of unintended hilarity.

This is what some think of the government efforts to educate us about drugs .

Why do you think the government would go through all of the trouble of criminalizing drugs if they were meant to be used?

ledhed
Thats bull .

You just said that the government used marijuana to defame Blacks in the 1920s. How could that be any different?
 
The US also had laws restricting immigration from anywhere that's not England. A history of xenophobic laws and racial profiling with respect to minorities is a good way to frame this issue historically, but not a reason to change the law regarding pot now.
 
Think on this . suppose pot and hemp were the staple crops in the south instead of tobbacco ..both being weeds . What class would pot be in today ? More so what would be its legal status ?
Now days you can go to jail for one to five years for simple possesion in some states . Thats fair ?
 
dbartucci
The US also had laws restricting immigration from anywhere that's not England. A history of xenophobic laws and racial profiling with respect to minorities is a good way to frame this issue historically, but not a reason to change the law regarding pot now.

Exactly.
 
I'll ask again . Do you think its fair to send someone to prison for one to five years for pot possesion ? That alone is a good reason to cahnge the stupid friggin law. The fact that the government often enacts detrimental laws to its minoritys is a given ...past history and all that.
 
A little weed never hurt anyone.

Alot of weed, however, probably made someone extremely hungry.

I think it's hilarious that people actually believe that weed has some life-altering medical affect to it. How many people have died from smoking too much weed? Weed, by itself and when used responsibly, is not a problem. At all.

Excuse me while I go and take some percocets and stare at my ceiling fan in the blacklight.
 
ledhed
I'll ask again . Do you think its fair to send someone to prison for one to five years for pot possesion ?

No of course not. That's ridiculous. Eliminate pot altogether and everybody wins!

That alone is a good reason to cahnge the stupid friggin law. The fact that the government often enacts detrimental laws to its minoritys is a given ...past history and all that.

:confused:
 
ledhed
Think on this . suppose pot and hemp were the staple crops in the south instead of tobbacco ..both being weeds . What class would pot be in today ? More so what would be its legal status ?
Tobacco was primarily exported and used in pipes and cigars then, it was a much cleaner form than the the tobacco mixed with chemicals that makes up modern day cigarettes.

I might further ad that even if US laws were strict why are laws in Europe, many countries of which are quite homogenous similar?

Now days you can go to jail for one to five years for simple possesion in some states . Thats fair ?
That's the law for possession, if you break the law then you should serve the time. The laws for drugs are strict because there's a large deterrence policy at work. In countries such as Singapore(maybe?) the punishment is death.
 
Explain how Alchohol and pot are in a different class of drugs . Why do they deserve different treatment ?
 
standard235
Yeah... another point I was trying to make is that people who want to hurt them selves knowingly, then they wouldn't have a problem stealing the stuf either.

How about you know what you're talking about before you start talking, ok?

And may I ask Brian to find me another bargraph showing drug use from 1959-1977? I think it will show the spike, and thus prove it was just a trend. A huge surge of drug popularity, and not actual Government intervention. After common sense kicked in from thousands of people OD'ing, it died off on its own leaving the odd experimental person to stray off and try hard drugs.

They weren't lied to about the effects! What are you talking about?!
Heh, we weren't even taught anything on what weed does. Why? Because it doesn't do anything!

QUIT!!! And tell everyone else to do the same!!! Run while still have a chance!!!
Why? It's not hurting anyone. . .except himself perhaps.

Don't even think about using that as a justification for doing drugs.
It's been tried before -- AND FAILED!!!
Are you aware that alcohol was prohibited too? Are you aware that alcohol causes more deaths, murders, etc. exponentially than marijuana does? and that the average person tries alcohol when they're like 12, whereas marijuana is somewhere between 13-15? Marijuana isn't dangerous Brian, you have to realise that. It's less dangerous than cigarettes. Your only argument is that because it's illegal, it must be illegal for a very good reason, but it was really because when hemp growing was popular, which could be made into clothes, bedding, all sorts of stuff, they couldnt control it and tax, which is why it is now illegal. If the government can't have absolute control over something, its solution is *BAN*, and that's exactly what they did with marijuana/hemp and then filled everyone's heads with lies.

I would honestly like to see a compelling argument against pot.
 
Ghost C
A little weed never hurt anyone.

How could you say that?! It wouldn't be illegal if it didn't hurt anyone.

Alot of weed, however, probably made someone extremely hungry.

That's it. Heard enough. I really don't feel like listing ALL of the effects marijuana has on the body, but I will say hunger is not the ONLY side effect.

I think it's hilarious that people actually believe that weed has some life-altering medical affect to it. How many people have died from smoking too much weed? Weed, by itself and when used responsibly, is not a problem. At all.

Lies. All lies.
 
PS
Are you aware that alcohol causes more deaths, murders, etc. exponentially than marijuana does? and that the average person tries alcohol when they're like 12, whereas marijuana is somewhere between 13-15?

This is probably more attributable to the availability and acceptance of alcohol than pot than how "safe" it is for recreational use.

Also hemp wasn't banned in Ontario until much later, like 1920-ish.


Edit: 1930's and banned internationally in 1961 under a UN protocol on illegal drugs.
In 1998 Ontario allowed industrial hemp to again by grown, but is strictly supervised to ensure the plants are only used for hemp.
 
Effects and Consequences of Use

Marijuana use is associated with numerous detrimental health effects, including frequent respiratory infections, impaired memory and learning, increased heart rate, anxiety, and panic attacks.

Effects on the Brain

Marijuana's effects begin as soon as the drug enters the brain and can last from 1 to 3 hours. As THC enters the brain, it causes the user to feel high by stimulating brain cells to release the chemical dopamine. When the euphoria passes, the user may feel sleepy or depressed and may also get feelings of panic, anxiety, or distrust.

Marijuana affects a person's ability to shift attention from one thing to another and causes damage to short-term memory because of how THC alters the way information is processed by the hippocampus. THC disrupts coordination and balance by binding to parts of the brain that regulate balance, posture, coordination of movement, and reaction time.

Other Effects on the Body

Because marijuana contains irritants and carcinogens, it can promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract. A study comparing 173 cancer patients and 176 healthy individuals produced strong evidence that smoking marijuana increased the likelihood of developing cancer of the head or neck. The more marijuana that was smoked, the greater the increase in likelihood. Marijuana also produces high levels of an enzyme that converts some hydrocarbons into their carcinogenic form. These levels may accelerate the changes that ultimately produce malignant cells. Additionally, marijuana users typically inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers, increasing the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke.

Users who smoke marijuana regularly may experience the same respiratory problems as tobacco smokers, including daily cough and phlegm, symptoms of chronic bronchitis, and frequent chest colds. Continued marijuana use can result in abnormal functioning of lung tissue injured or destroyed by marijuana smoke.

Within a few minutes after smoking marijuana, the user's heart begins to beat more rapidly and may increase by 20 to 50 beats per minute, or even double. Results of a study released in 2001 indicate that a person's risk of heart attack within the first hour of smoking marijuana is four times the usual risk
This is from the GOVERNMENT study
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov/publications/factsht/marijuana/index.html
 
MrktMkr1986
How could you say that?! It wouldn't be illegal if it didn't hurt anyone.

You're joking, right?

That's it. Heard enough. I really don't feel like listing ALL of the effects marijuana has on the body, but I will say hunger is not the ONLY side effect.

Uh, let's see...Drowsiness, uh..Hunger...Uh...That's all I can think of right now. Unless of course you smoke some NL4 and decide it'd be a good idea to hide underneath the bed because you smoked too much NL4.

Lies. All lies.

Name me one recorded medical incident of death by too high of a blood THC level.
 
Can you point out the facts given in that info sheet that you believe are wrong or misleading?

Honestly, I'd like to know, I'm not being a dick.
 
Now compare to the use of Alcohol .
The initial impact of alcohol:

The brain, liver, heart, pancreas, lungs, kidneys, and every other organ and tissue system are infiltrated by alcohol within minutes after it passes into the blood stream. The strength of the drink will have a significant effect on absorption rates, with higher concentrations of alcohol resulting in more rapid absorption. Pure alcohol is generally absorbed faster than diluted alcohols, which are, in turn, absorbed faster than wine or beer.

Alcohol taken in concentrated amounts can irritate the stomach lining to the extent that it produces a sticky mucous which delays absorption. The pylorus valve which connects the stomach and small intestine may go into spasm in the presence of concentrated alcohol, trapping the alcohol in the stomach instead of passing it on to the small intestine where it would be more rapidly absorbed into the blood stream. The drinker who downs several straight shots in an effort to get a quick high may actually experience a delayed effect. Finally, the temperature of the beverage affects its absorption, with warm alcohol being absorbed more rapidly than cold alcohol.

Measurement of effect by blood alcohol level (BAL):

The drinker's blood alcohol level rises as a factor of the relationship among the amount of alcohol consumed, body size and proportion of body fat, the amount of food in the stomach, and what is mixed with the alcohol. The BAL rises more rapidly in those who drink on an empty stomach. Water and fruit juices slow the absorption process, while carbon dioxide speeds it up. The carbon dioxide in champagne and carbonated mixers such as Cola, and soda water rushes through the stomach and intestinal walls into the blood stream, carrying alcohol with it and creating a rapid rise in BAL. A 0.08 BAL, for example, indicates approximately 8 parts alcohol to 10,000 parts other blood components. When a person drinks more alcohol than his or her body can eliminate, alcohol accumulates in the blood stream and the BAL rises.

Elimination of alcohol from a healthy adult body occurs at an average rate of approximately ½ to 3/4 ounce per hour, the equivalent of 1 ounce of 100-proof whiskey, one large beer, or about 3 to 4 ounces of wine. When blood alcohol concentrations reach very high levels, the brain's control over the respiratory system may be paralyzed. A .30 BAL is the minimum level at which death can occur; at .40 the drinker may lapse into a coma. At .50 BAL, respiratory functions and heartbeat slow drastically, and at .60 most drinkers are dead.

BODY SYSTEMS AND EFFECTS

The Liver:

Located in the upper-right side of the abdomen, the liver is the body's largest glandular organ. Its complex functions are associated with dozens of processes of body chemistry and metabolism. It produces the bile that helps digest fatty foods; it manufactures heparin, an anticoagulant, it stores and releases sugar. The liver also produces antibodies that help ward off disease, and it cleanses the body of poisons, including alcohol. With small amounts of alcohol, this cleansing can happen effectively. When the amount of alcohol is high, imbalances are created which can lead to hypoglycemia (low blood sugar), hyperuricemia (as in arthritis or gout), fatty liver (which may lead to hepatitis or cirrhosis), and hyperlipemia (build-up of fats sent to the bloodstream; which leads to heart problems).

The Central Nervous System:

The central nervous system (CNS) includes the brain, the spinal cord, and the nerves originating from it. Sensory impulses are transmitted to the CNS and motor impulses pass from it. When alcohol acts on the CNS, intoxication occurs, affecting emotional and sensory function, judgment, memory and learning ability. Smell and taste are dulled. The ability to withstand pain increases as the BAL rises.

Different parts of the brain seem to be affected by alcohol at different rates, creating alternate periods of restlessness and stupor. Long-term effects of alcohol on the central nervous system include tolerance, dependency, and irreversible damage. Changes in tolerance for alcohol, and the alcoholic drinker's dependency on alcohol, demonstrate that changes occur in the brain.

With each drinking episode, central nervous system functions deteriorate in a predictable sequence, beginning with intellectual functioning, followed by disturbances in sensory and motor control. Last affected are the automatic biological functions, such as breathing and heart action.

The brain is the organ that is most affected by alcohol, and proves that it is being damaged through the drinker's behavior changes and emotional distress. Three noticeable effects of alcohol injury to the brain: memory loss, confusion, and augmentation. (Augmentation is a physiological response to alcohol which results in hyper-alertness to normal situations, perceiving light as brighter or sounds as louder than usual, or the drinker’s becoming extremely sad or angry for no apparent reason.) The drinker's rapid mood swings and emotional and behavioral instability can be brought under control by stopping drinking.

Blackouts, or loss of memory for a period during drinking, are a physical effect of alcohol on the brain. They occur as alcohol cuts off the supply of oxygen to the brain. Lack of oxygen supply to the brain can kill tens of thousands of brain cells every time a person becomes intoxicated.

Another effect of alcohol on the brain is the "learned behavior syndrome"; when a behavior is learned under the influence of alcohol, the drinker sometimes must re-learn that behavior after stopping drinking.

The Blood:

One effect of drinking alcohol is "blood-sludging" where the red blood cells clump together causing the small blood vessels to plug up, starve the tissues of oxygen, and cause cell death. This cell death is most serious, and often unrecognized, in the brain. With this increased pressure, capillaries break, create red eyes in the morning, or the red, blotchy skin seen on the heavy drinker's face. Blood vessels can also break in the stomach and esophagus leading to hemorrhage, even death.

Other effects of alcohol on the blood include: anemia; sedation of the bone marrow (which reduces the red and white blood count, and weakens the bone structure); lowered resistance to infection; and a decrease in the ability to fight off infections.

The Gastrointestinal Tract:

The stomach, the small and large intestines, and the pancreas are each affected by alcohol. Alcohol increases acid in the stomach. That can result in gastritis or stomach or intestinal ulcers. The pancreas produces insulin which is necessary to regulate the amount of sugar in the blood. Drinking causes a steep rise in the blood sugar; the pancreas responds by producing insulin which causes a fast drop in blood sugar and the symptom of low blood sugar or hypoglycemia. 70-90% of alcoholics suffer to some degree from the disorder of hypoglycemia, chronic low blood sugar, as a long term effect of their drinking. Symptoms of hypoglycemia can include dizziness, headaches, lack of ability to concentrate, depression, anxiety, light-headedness, tremors, cold sweats, heart palpitations, loss of coordination, and upset stomach. In time, the drinker's overworked pancreas may stop producing insulin and diabetes can result. Conversely, a person with a family history of diabetes may be more vulnerable to problems with alcohol.

The Muscles:

Alcohol reduces blood flow to the muscles, including the heart, causing muscle weakness and deterioration. One outcome is cardiomyopathy (sluggish heart) which is common in alcoholics. Another outcome, arrhythmia (irregular heartbeat), or "holiday heart,"is often treated in emergency wards after several days of party drinking. Muscle aches are a common symptom of excessive-drinking "hangovers."

The Endocrine System:

This system controls the body's hormones and includes the pineal, pituitary, thyroid, and adrenal glands, and the ovaries or testes. Alcohol sedates these glands, resulting in under-production of hormones; effects include increased susceptibility to allergies. Alcohol can effect sexual functioning in various ways. In low doses, it lowers inhibitions and may make a person feel sexier; but in higher doses, it can decrease sexual functioning: in men, by decreasing the frequency of erections, decreasing the maintenance of erections, decreasing penile size during erection, and increasing the amount of time between erections, in women by interfering with normal processes of sexual stimulation, and blocking orgasmic response. With chronic and prolonged use of alcohol in men, there is a shrinkage of sex glands and an increase of the "female hormone" estrogen. This produces secondary sexual characteristics, such as enlarged breasts and a decrease in body hair. Prolonged use of alcohol can cause infertility in both men and women.

TERMS TO UNDERSTAND

Tolerance: As people drink, their tolerance for alcohol may increase. They might seem to be able to "handle" alcohol better and need more to achieve the same effect as before. The liver does not become more tolerant, and is damaged over the course of time, leading to poor liver function and a noticeable decrease in tolerance, or "reverse-tolerance". A heavy drinker's reverse-tolerance is a sign of late-stage alcoholism.

Withdrawal: The effects of alcohol on the body account for the sick, uncomfortable, shaky feelings following a period of drinking. Withdrawal symptoms vary in intensity according to the amount and prolonged frequency of drinking.

Symptoms of alcohol withdrawal include:

hangovers -- fairly common result of overindulging-- headache, fatigue, thirst, and nervousness. There may be nausea and abdominal cramping. Diagnosed alcoholics report fewer hangovers than drinkers who are non-alcoholic, this may be because they have learned to ignore the symptoms.
sleep disturbance -- waking up earlier than usual after expecting to "sleep it off," being unable to fall asleep, disturbed dreaming.
irritability, anxiety, and restlessness -- all caused by the irritant effects of alcohol.
tremors, or "morning shakes"-- Tremors will clear after several days of abstinence, if there is no permanent damage to the nervous system
physical weakness, rapid heart rate,
mental sluggishness
difficulty thinking clearly or flexibly
All the above are lingering evidence of alcohol's impact on muscles, heart and brain.

For the drinker with only a mild degree of physical dependence, withdrawal effects may not extend beyond the symptoms listed above.

Some drinkers experience second stage withdrawal, marked by:

convulsions -- seizures usually occur between 12 and 48 hours of the last drink. There may be a loss of consciousness and body control.
Third stage withdrawal symptoms involve:

alcoholic hallucinosis and delirium tremens -- auditory, visual and tactile hallucinations occur. This period may last for three to four days, during which the de-toxifying person is in a severe state of agitation, is often completely disoriented and sleeps little, if at all. The delusions are almost always terrifying and may produce violent behavior. There is a 10%-20% mortality rate associated with this stage of withdrawal. Detoxification of the acutely ill alcoholic requires medical supervision.
SPECIAL CONCERNS OF WOMEN

Female drinkers reach higher blood alcohol levels (BAL's) faster because of less water and more fat in the body and because of differences in digestive enzymes. Women develop alcohol-related disorders such as brain damage, cirrhosis and cancers at lower levels of drinking than men. It is also known that the menstrual cycle affects alcohol metabolism in women. Women have been shown to develop their highest BAL's immediately before menstruating, and their lowest on the first day of menstruation. This can be related to hormone level shifts. There is evidence which shows that premenstrual syndrome with its emotional and physical discomfort and de-stabilized blood-sugar levels can trigger excessive drinking by some women.

FETAL ALCOHOL SYNDROME (FAS) and FETAL ALCOHOL EFFECT (FAE)

Women who drink during pregnancy risk the development of both mental and physical defects in their children. Effects on the child can include: growth deficiencies; poorly formed bones and organs, heart abnormalities, cleft palate, retarded intellect, delayed motor development, poor coordination, behavior problems, and learning disabilities. Smoking cigarettes, combined with alcohol use, will increase the chance of birth defects. Use of alcohol increases the chance of miscarriage. It is best that a woman avoid alcohol, cigarettes, caffeine, and other drugs entirely during pregnancy. Antabuse is not a suitable treatment for the pregnant or potentially pregnant alcoholic woman; it interferes with maternal liver function and may cause harm to the developing fetus.

Since harm to the infant may result even before a woman realizes that she is pregnant, women who might become pregnant need to be particularly cautious about what they consume.

NUTRITIONAL OVERVIEW

Secondary Diabetes: Diabetes can result from prolonged, excessive use of alcohol. Because it is caused by drinking and not from a genetic disorder, it is called "secondary" diabetes. The symptoms are identical to genetic or "primary" diabetes. Abstinence from alcohol is a vital part of treatment for this disorder.

Vitamins and Proteins: Those who use alcohol excessively deprive their bodies of essential nutrients. The drinker and the recovering alcoholic must pay special attention to diet. A diet high in protein not only provides many of the nutrients vital to recovery, but also keeps the blood sugar from too rapid change. It is better for those who drank excessively to get protein from eggs, milk, or vegetables, than from meats or cheeses. Because of an already-fatty liver, excessive drinkers cannot process the extra fat. When they eat meat, fruit should be eaten; it aids in breaking down fats. Vitamin supplements are helpful for people with drinking problems: these include, vitamins A, B, C and E. Protein supplementation may be important to reducing alcohol craving and maintaining emotional balance for alcoholics wanting to recover from their past heavy drinking. Similarly, a diet high in complex carbohydrates stabilizes blood glucose and reduces the low blood sugar state that can lead to craving alcohol. Understanding one's own special nutritional needs is an important aspect of recovery from excessive alcohol use.

Hmmmmmmmmm and the pots the one you go to jail for ?
Effects and Consequences of Use
Effects and Consequences of Use

Marijuana use is associated with numerous detrimental health effects, including frequent respiratory infections, impaired memory and learning, increased heart rate, anxiety, and panic attacks.

Effects on the Brain

Marijuana's effects begin as soon as the drug enters the brain and can last from 1 to 3 hours. As THC enters the brain, it causes the user to feel high by stimulating brain cells to release the chemical dopamine. When the euphoria passes, the user may feel sleepy or depressed and may also get feelings of panic, anxiety, or distrust.

Marijuana affects a person's ability to shift attention from one thing to another and causes damage to short-term memory because of how THC alters the way information is processed by the hippocampus. THC disrupts coordination and balance by binding to parts of the brain that regulate balance, posture, coordination of movement, and reaction time.

Other Effects on the Body

Because marijuana contains irritants and carcinogens, it can promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract. A study comparing 173 cancer patients and 176 healthy individuals produced strong evidence that smoking marijuana increased the likelihood of developing cancer of the head or neck. The more marijuana that was smoked, the greater the increase in likelihood. Marijuana also produces high levels of an enzyme that converts some hydrocarbons into their carcinogenic form. These levels may accelerate the changes that ultimately produce malignant cells. Additionally, marijuana users typically inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers, increasing the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke.

Users who smoke marijuana regularly may experience the same respiratory problems as tobacco smokers, including daily cough and phlegm, symptoms of chronic bronchitis, and frequent chest colds. Continued marijuana use can result in abnormal functioning of lung tissue injured or destroyed by marijuana smoke.

Within a few minutes after smoking marijuana, the user's heart begins to beat more rapidly and may increase by 20 to 50 beats per minute, or even double. Results of a study released in 2001 indicate that a person's risk of heart attack within the first hour of smoking marijuana is four times the usual risk
This is from the GOVERNMENT study
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov...uana/index.html
 
Like I said before, you're making a good argument for re-criminalizing alcohol, not a legalizing pot.

And can you please point out where the info sheet on pot is wrong or misleading?
 
I see nothing wrong at a glance with the report on pot. Or the report on alcohol .
Whats wrong is one is LEGAL and one is NOT. Explain why pots illegal to me ...please...?
This is just the beginning on tobacco..there's pages of harmfull effects
ORAL CANCER. Squamous cell carcinoma is quit naturally the most worrisome mucosal change encountered in smokers, but it is not intended here to dwell on this aspect of tobacco's effect. Certain premalignant lesions are mentioned below, but suffice it to say that tobacco's role in producing squamous carcinomas of the oral, pharyngeal and laryngeal mucosae is well established. At least 80% of oral cancer patients are smokers; oral cancer patients who continue smoking after treatment are much more likely to develop a new head and neck cancer; animal studies have produced oral cancers in a variety of animals via forced cigarette smoking; and case-control studies in humans have determined that a smoker is as much as 7 times more likely than a nonsmoker to develop oral malignancy.

It is important to remember that oral cancers develop by way of cocarcinogenesis, multiple factors are usually involved. Excessive alcohol intake by itself has little impact on the prevalence of oral carcinoma, but alcohol is a powerful "promoter" capable of altering mucosal cells to make them much more susceptible to malignant transformation by tobacco carcinogens. Even the alcohol in concentrated mouthwashes is thought to play a role in this process.

Tobacco chewers also develop oral carcinomas. The oral cancer risk for these users is about 4 times greater than nonusers, although the data proving this is very sparse. A very unique low-grade oral malignancy, verrucous carcinoma, is so seldom diagnosed in nonchewers that it is aptly called the "snuff dipper's cancer" (Figure 2). This carcinoma typically develops in the exact site of chronic tobacco placement. It differs from the usual oral cancer in that it enlarges very slowly, is essentially nonmetastasizing, and consists of very mature epithelial cells, i.e. has little dysplasia. The mortality rate for verrucous carcinoma is among the lowest for any cancer of the human body, so low that it would be a blessing were it the usual type of oral cancer diagnosed in smokeless tobacco users. Unfortunately, this is not the case. Verrucous carcinoma is extremely rare (1/1,000,000 persons annually), hence, the typical smokeless tobacco cancer is the same as the typical smoker's oral cancer, i.e. invasive squamous cell carcinoma.

LEUKOPLAKIA. While the exact etiology of oral leukoplakia still eludes us, tobacco smoking is by far the most broadly accepted factor. Approximately 80% of leukoplakia patients are smokers and when large groups of adults are examined we find that smokers are much more likely to have leukoplakia than nonsmokers (23% vs. 4%). Pipe smokers and heavy cigarette smokers have greater numbers of lesions and larger lesions than other smokers, especially after many years of tobacco abuse. Sixty percent of smoke-induced leukoplakias, furthermore, disappear 6-12 months after affected patients stop smoking.

Leukoplakia in smokers is usually seen as a well-defined white plaque of the oral mucosa (Figure 3). The average patient is 50-60 years of age and male, while the average lesion is 1.4 cm. in diameter and has been present for 2-4 years at the time of diagnosis. The overall cancer transformation potential of leukoplakias is approximately 4%, but certain clinical forms of leukoplakia are much more prone to cancer than others. Speckled leukoplakia (erythroleukoplakia), for example has a cancer potential of at least 25%, in some studies as high as 41%. Do leukoplakias in smokers become malignant more frequently than those in nonsmokers? We presently lack the data to say with confidence, but it appears that leukoplakias in nonsmokers, or those remaining after smoking cessation, are more likely to transform than those in smokers. Hence, smokers have much more leukoplakia but their lesions seem to be less aggressive.

NICOTINE PALATINUS (STOMATITIS). Once a common mucosal change of the hard palate, nicotine palatinus (Figure 4) has become something of a rarity as cigar and pipe smoking have lost popularity. Even before it became an uncommon lesion, however, it's status as a precancerous condition had been lost. While this lesion is most certainly produced by heavy and frequent contact with tobacco smoke and is just as certainly a white keratotic change, it does not transform into malignancy and is a response to the heat of tobacco smoke rather than the chemicals in the smoke. It is completely reversible within a few months of quitting the smoking habit, even when present for many decades before the habit is stopped. Today we primarily see this entity in heavy cigarette smokers (more than two packs per day) and its intensity is typically much less than lesions of a few decades ago.

SMOKELESS TOBACCO KERATOSIS. Snuff pouch or smokeless tobacco keratosis (Figure 5) is, like nicotine palatinus, no longer considered to be a true leukoplakia. It is a white keratotic plaque, as is leukoplakia, but there the similarity ends. It typically has a semitranslucent appearance rather than a flat whiteness, and it has a microscopic appearance different from the simple excessive keratin by which leukoplakia is characterized. It also is located only in areas of direct contact with snuff or chewing tobacco and is almost always completely reversible when the affected patient quits his or her habit. While there can be no doubt that it is a precancerous entity, its malignant potential is less than true leukoplakia by a magnitude of ten (4% vs. O.4% estimated lifetime risk for leukoplakia and smokeless tobacco keratosis, respectively). More wrinkled and more intensely white smokeless tobacco keratoses are considered to be "higher grade" lesions, but these clinical grades seem to have little correlation with the eventual development of cancer. Today the only smokeless tobacco keratosis feature known to have an increased risk of cancer transformation is continued presence after tobacco cessation. Those lesions remaining after two months without smokeless tobacco should be considered to be true leukoplakias, possibly developed from or hidden by the previous smokeless tobacco keratosis.

SMOKER'S MELANOSIS. Smoking is capable of stimulating oral mucosal melanocytes to produce excessive melanin, thereby creating patches of brown pigmentation on gingival or buccal mucosae in 5-22% of heavy smokers (Figure 6). The number and intensity of these smoker's melanoses are dose-dependent and smoking cessation seems to reverse the process completely. In vitro testing has demonstrated that it is the nicotine itself which activates one of the steps in melanin production. To date no case has transformed into a carcinoma or melanoma and no case has been reported in nonsmoking users of smokeless tobacco, but an occasional lesion may have leukoplakia superimposed on it. In the latter event, we use the term "melanoleukoplakia" (or "leukomelanosis") and presume that at least the keratotic aspect of the plaque will behave as any other leukoplakia without melanosis.

SUBMUCOUS FIBROSIS. Oral submucous fibrosis is a precancerous condition characterized by a progressive stiffening of the oral mucosa to the point wherein affected persons have difficulty opening their mouths. A 10-year malignant transformation rate of 8% has been determined in India, where tobacco chewers routinely mix betel leaf, areca nuts, and/or slaked (shell) lime with their tobacco. This entity, which frequently has leukoplakia superimposed on it, is seldom seen in the U.S. but is found in the mouths of 0.4% of India's villagers.

LEUKOEDEMA. A poorly demarcated, grayish-white, opalescent change of the buccal mucosa, bilaterally, is frequently seen in persons with darkly pigmented skin (Figure 7). Always a benign lesion and usually considered a simple variation of normal, it is nevertheless capable of an increased whiteness and size in smokers. Axell and Henricsson found leukoedema in 60% of Swedish adult smokers but in only 36% of nonsmokers.

HAIRY TONGUE. The condition of elongated filiform papillae mimicking hair on the dorsum of the tongue is frequently seen in heavy smokers (Figure 8). Theoretically tobacco smoke prevents the epithelial cells from sloughing in a normal fashion and they accumulate into a very thickened and white (unless stained brown, black, etc.) surface which extends as long "hairs" at the tips of the papillae. We have no clinical research definitively linking hairy tongue with smoking but it frequently decreases or disappears when the habit is stopped. Smokeless tobacco use is also thought to contribute to this condition, but there is no scientific evidence to prove the association.

now tobacco is legal but
Effects and Consequences of Use

Marijuana use is associated with numerous detrimental health effects, including frequent respiratory infections, impaired memory and learning, increased heart rate, anxiety, and panic attacks.

Effects on the Brain

Marijuana's effects begin as soon as the drug enters the brain and can last from 1 to 3 hours. As THC enters the brain, it causes the user to feel high by stimulating brain cells to release the chemical dopamine. When the euphoria passes, the user may feel sleepy or depressed and may also get feelings of panic, anxiety, or distrust.

Marijuana affects a person's ability to shift attention from one thing to another and causes damage to short-term memory because of how THC alters the way information is processed by the hippocampus. THC disrupts coordination and balance by binding to parts of the brain that regulate balance, posture, coordination of movement, and reaction time.

Other Effects on the Body

Because marijuana contains irritants and carcinogens, it can promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract. A study comparing 173 cancer patients and 176 healthy individuals produced strong evidence that smoking marijuana increased the likelihood of developing cancer of the head or neck. The more marijuana that was smoked, the greater the increase in likelihood. Marijuana also produces high levels of an enzyme that converts some hydrocarbons into their carcinogenic form. These levels may accelerate the changes that ultimately produce malignant cells. Additionally, marijuana users typically inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer than tobacco smokers, increasing the lungs' exposure to carcinogenic smoke.

Users who smoke marijuana regularly may experience the same respiratory problems as tobacco smokers, including daily cough and phlegm, symptoms of chronic bronchitis, and frequent chest colds. Continued marijuana use can result in abnormal functioning of lung tissue injured or destroyed by marijuana smoke.

Within a few minutes after smoking marijuana, the user's heart begins to beat more rapidly and may increase by 20 to 50 beats per minute, or even double. Results of a study released in 2001 indicate that a person's risk of heart attack within the first hour of smoking marijuana is four times the usual risk
This is from the GOVERNMENT study
http://www.whitehousedrugpolicy.gov...uana/index.html
This one is not ?
 
dbartucci
Like I said before, you're making a good argument for re-criminalizing alcohol, not a legalizing pot.
:lol: And now the tobacco. They should ban all of them!
 
Pot was made illegal because of the class and race of people who used it . it was very hard to tax because of its nature , it being a weed that can pretty much grow any place with next to no cultivation . No benifits to the ruling class and the government . Its pigheaded to keep it illegal . Until it becomes more popular with the law makers and the general population it will most likely be a while untill the bankruptcy of the pot laws gets buried in the ash heap of other failed government policys.
 
MrktMkr1986
Seriously, they SHOULD ban them all.
It sounds really harsh, but I'm not against that.

Marijuana - My only complaint against this drug is the way it affects your brain. Good enough reason to keep it illegal, IMO. I don't want anyone I love smoking it.

Alcohol - While I do drink occasionally, we've all seen what it can do to people. It can kill or destroy people, families. This drug can make your life a living hell............. even if you weren't the one, who was doing the drinking.

Tobacco - Only time I experience secondhand smoke is when we go to bars to play pool or when smoke from a car in front of me, gets sucked into the cabin of my car. However, I don't see any positives from tobacco, other than it helps the economy. Why do people smoke/chew this stuff?
 
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