Fanatec Gran Turismo DD Extreme Wheel

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PirovacBoy
It's up to the game developer only.
Nothing to do with Fanatec.
The Wheelbase itself is capable.
But to be honest I don't know if PD even cares at ti's specific moment.
We shall see.
Fingers crossed šŸ˜
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Hopefully media outlets will hold PD accountable the next time they're asked to review/promote another licensed product from them.

One of the GTPlanet reviewers acknowledged that he had mixed feelings about telling us to buy something that doesn't exist a year later. It's not an enviable position that they're in but at some point you can't recommend hardware/peripherals for this game because PD is consistently inconsistent.
 
sonnyboychris
Hopefully media outlets will hold PD accountable the next time they're asked to review/promote another licensed product from them.

One of the GTPlanet reviewers acknowledged that he had mixed feelings about telling us to buy something that doesn't exist a year later. It's not an enviable position that they're in but at some point you can't recommend hardware/peripherals for this game because PD is consistently inconsistent.
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Well that's PD being PD.
Can't blame gtp the slightest.
Can't blame Fanatec as well.
And to be honest I don't even blame Polyphony Digital as well.
I just hope it gets available ASAP.
Having such a killer feature not making use of is indeed a bugger...

On the flip side though, I have to admit that I am absolutely satisfied with the FFB this Wheelbase delivers in its current state as well as the Signal itself provided by PD at this moment.
It's by far the best Wheelbase I've ever used.
It delivers big time.

But FullForce if implemented and coded well will be a complete game changer.
It's not remotely close to what Logitech TruForce Technology does, which is by the way already a fantastic Feature.
FullForce is going to be the pineacle of FFB Algorithm.
And we the owners of the DD+ will be the blessed ones to experience it... Sooner or later it will come.
Not just GT7 but many other great racing titles as well.
 
PirovacBoy
Well that's PD being PD.
Can't blame gtp the slightest.
Can't blame Fanatec as well.
And to be honest I don't even blame Polyphony Digital as well.
I just hope it gets available ASAP.
Having such a killer feature not making use of is indeed a bugger...

On the flip side though, I have to admit that I am absolutely satisfied with the FFB this Wheelbase delivers in its current state as well as the Signal itself provided by PD at this moment.
It's by far the best Wheelbase I've ever used.
It delivers big time.

But FullForce if implemented and coded well will be a complete game changer.
It's not remotely close to what Logitech TruForce Technology does, which is by the way already a fantastic Feature.
FullForce is going to be the pineacle of FFB Algorithm.
And we the owners of the DD+ will be the blessed ones to experience it... Sooner or later it will come.
Not just GT7 but many other great racing titles as well.
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I'm not blaming anyone but PD...

I'm saying that moving forward, outlets may feel hesitant to endorse products from a developer that consistently fails to support the product. I feel the same way about outlets that rate EA Sports games as an 8 or above every year...

And to be clear, that was the GTP reviewer stating that he had concerns about his endorsement of the product, not me. If I were him, I'd be upset too because his customer base (fairly or unfairly) is going to remember that he endorsed this product. PD's ineptitude is potentially going to reflect poorly on his brand and that's unfair to him.

This isn't just a wheel base issue, it's a PSVR2 issue and peripherals in general. For months it was just us Fanatec owners having problems, but now it's Logitech owners feeling the pain. Us PSVR2 owners haven't seen a single update in over a year and I wouldn't hold my breath that PD will support PSSR unless Sony holds them hostage lol.

PirovacBoy
But FullForce if implemented and coded well will be a complete game changer.
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I agree with you and I'm super excited for it but that's a big IF. šŸ¤£
 
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timekiller001
Are we sure about that? I know it was mentioned in a patch log some time ago but that was quickly withdrawn as it was incorrect. But that was several weeks ago
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As far as I know it has been implemented for Racing.
I don't own a PC so can't confirm it.
 
Maybe Corsair will use some of it's 1.5 billion dollars of annual revenue muscle to convince Polyphony Digital to sell an 30th anniversary Gran Turismo - Elgato/Fanatec/SCUF waterproofed 4GB memory stick specifically for 10x the amount of space for replay saves!
 
Corsair + Fanatec

Dear Fanatec Customer,

I am delighted to announce that Fanatec has joined the CORSAIR family. CORSAIR was founded 30 years ago and is a California-based manufacturer of PC Components and Gaming Peripherals for the gaming enthusiasts.

Fanatec will operate in a similar way to SCUF and Elgato within the CORSAIR family ā€“ it will continue to develop and launch products its world-class product range from the current headquarters in Landshut, Germany.

I know you have questions; I wanted to send a letter to answer some of them for you. Firstly, I want you to know that CORSAIR is committed to Sim Racing, the community, and creating great products. There are things at Fanatec that we want to help improve, and I assure you, these are top of our list.

These include:

  • Customer Service / Speed of Delivery
  • Warranty
  • Software Updates
What does this mean for Customer Service/Speed of Delivery?

We know the some of the community are not happy about the current state of Customer Service. I get this ā€“ I hear you; we are committed to improving this, we want you to have the support you need should something go wrong. We run a global support and logistics operation, and we will be integrating Fanatec into this, giving you better service and more transparency.

What does this mean for my warranty?

CORSAIR will honour all existing Fanatec warranties. Customers should still reach out to the Fanatec team directly for support via their Fanatec accounts. Our priority is to ensure prompt resolution of warranty issues during this transition of ownership and of course provide continuous improvement of customer support.

What does this mean for Software Updates?

We are used to running a company that has both software and hardware elements ā€“ CORSAIR, Elgato, and SCUF all have these needs. We also know that people donā€™t always get it right. Thatā€™s where we will be stepping in and making things better. It wonā€™t be perfect straight away, but I am committed to ensuring we improve this over time.

What does this mean for Fanatec going forward?

Overall, Fanatec joining the CORSAIR family means that CORSAIRā€™s expertise and resources will enhance the Fanatec product lineup and make significant improvements to the logistics and customer service. Global availability of Fanatec products will also expand through CORSAIR's extensive channels. As I have said, Fanatec and its customers will benefit from CORSAIRā€™s world-class support, including warranty and software updates.

We are incredibly excited about this new chapter for Fanatec, and we would like to thank the community for its continued support. All of us at CORSAIR are committed to raising the brand to new heights and we look forward to sharing this bright future with you!

Andy

Andy Paul, CEO and Founder, Corsair Gaming

 
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Hello guys/girls
Just a question regarding the latest beta firmware update for the DD+
( 2.2.3.7)
Has anyone here yet installed it and noticed any difference in FFB feel?
I read on a different thread from someone mentioning something about a 250hz thing?!
No idea what he means so I just showed up here to ask this question.

Just to let you know by the way, I'm still running the Factory Firmware my replacement DD+ came shipped with and, knock on wood, still didn't had a single issue so far.
It works absolutely flawless. And this is since May 12th.
The FFB feels phenomenal.
So I'm definitely not going to update anytime soon, as long as it's not absolutely necessary.
I'm just curious to hear some opinions from some of you here.
Did it finally resolve the disconnect issues and what's it about with this ominous 250hz thing.?
Keep in mind I only play GT7 and Crew Motorfest on PS5.
God I love my DD+ šŸ˜…
 
Iā€™m still running FW from 455 base 2.0.1.4 and WQR from 457 1.1.0.1 w no issues either. My advice for now is if no issues than stay where you are at

Those who have tried it have reported success w disconnects w the new test patch 2.2.3.7 so worth a try if you have issues. This update also is supposed to fix CSL pedal (non load cell) dead zone issue

I did notice FFB was a bit numbed w 457 when I tried it - donā€™t know which is used for the patch but if thatā€™s whatā€™s going forward it will be disappointing

At some point other outstanding issues such as w PBME and PBMR will get fixed - those are in the base FW not the wheel FW so will need to move forward to get those done

Have not seen 250hz discussions so canā€™t comment

I also love my DD+
 
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PirovacBoy
Hello guys/girls
Just a question regarding the latest beta firmware update for the DD+
( 2.2.3.7)
Has anyone here yet installed it and noticed any difference in FFB feel?
I read on a different thread from someone mentioning something about a 250hz thing?!
No idea what he means so I just showed up here to ask this question.

Just to let you know by the way, I'm still running the Factory Firmware my replacement DD+ came shipped with and, knock on wood, still didn't had a single issue so far.
It works absolutely flawless. And this is since May 12th.
The FFB feels phenomenal.
So I'm definitely not going to update anytime soon, as long as it's not absolutely necessary.
I'm just curious to hear some opinions from some of you here.
Did it finally resolve the disconnect issues and what's it about with this ominous 250hz thing.?
Keep in mind I only play GT7 and Crew Motorfest on PS5.
God I love my DD+
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I'm using driver 457, I flashed my wheelbase to the current 2.2.3.6 hotfix and I flashed the qr to the 1.1.0.3 test release.
I'm using your recommended settings and the wheel is fantastic. I have no issues at all and the ffb is as good as it has ever been.
I only ever update the firmware to see if anything changes, I've never had any issues with my wheel and base, and the ffb has always been very good.

I can't see 2.2.3.7 on the fanatec forum, if you can post a link I'll update my base and give it a try.
 
Oi Oi JC
I'm using driver 457, I flashed my wheelbase to the current 2.2.3.6 hotfix and I flashed the qr to the 1.1.0.3 test release.
I'm using your recommended settings and the wheel is fantastic. I have no issues at all and the ffb is as good as it has ever been.
I only ever update the firmware to see if anything changes, I've never had any issues with my wheel and base, and the ffb has always been very good.

I can't see 2.2.3.7 on the fanatec forum, if you can post a link I'll update my base and give it a try.
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PS5 Mode Disconnection Issue and CSL Pedals deadzone

Attached is a new CS DD(+) base firmware file 2.2.3.7

Fixed Disconnection Issues while using PS5 Mode
Fixed CSL Pedal (without Load Cell) dead zone


Known issue of this test firmware

In case you are already using the latest QR firmware from the first post, then after updating the base firmware attached here the steering wheel won't be recognized and a manual restart of the base is required. After this the wheel works normally. We are working on this to not be a think when the next driver gets available.

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It's on page 9 of the latest discussion thread for Driver 457.
Its from September 17th.
 
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PirovacBoy
Hello guys/girls
Just a question regarding the latest beta firmware update for the DD+
( 2.2.3.7)
Has anyone here yet installed it and noticed any difference in FFB feel?
I read on a different thread from someone mentioning something about a 250hz thing?!
No idea what he means so I just showed up here to ask this question.

Just to let you know by the way, I'm still running the Factory Firmware my replacement DD+ came shipped with and, knock on wood, still didn't had a single issue so far.
It works absolutely flawless. And this is since May 12th.
The FFB feels phenomenal.
So I'm definitely not going to update anytime soon, as long as it's not absolutely necessary.
I'm just curious to hear some opinions from some of you here.
Did it finally resolve the disconnect issues and what's it about with this ominous 250hz thing.?
Keep in mind I only play GT7 and Crew Motorfest on PS5.
God I love my DD+ šŸ˜…
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Using this combo in pic and first tested it with Wreckfest on PC in "red" PC mode for several hours and no problems using heavy FFB.
Then I did a bunch of testing in Blue PS5 mode in WRC 9 on PS5 and no problems. Yesterday I ran several hours of F1 2023 on PS5 in blue PS5 mode and no problems.
Going to test out GT7 soon in blue mode. Ever since v1.49 I was getting disconnects in GT7 in Blue PS5 mode, so switched to light blue PS4 mode. But then I noticed I was also getting disconnects in other games in blue mode on PS5 and now I don't, so I am thinking they finally solved this issue. I actually got the FFB feeling really good in those games mentioned above. I was amazed I how good I got F1 2023 FFB feeling with this wheel after some settings tweaks, and I've never had any luck getting FFB to feel right in any F1 game. This wheelbase has some amazing FFB, I'll be able to tell if there's any dramatic changes when I test it out with GT7, I never noticed anything weird with FFB after updating FW to 2.2.3.7 though. Feels great as usual.

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I have a headache: Should I play with Firmware and fixes or stay as is (factory settings) on my FANATEC DD Pro.

Setup is:
WB Gran Turismo DD Pro
CSL UB V2 (Universal Hub)
QR2
CSL Pedals

Issue is:
On GT7 - Wheel Lock (Angle). It is 360deg total (180deg left/right) for each and every car.

Tried with both Modes Purple and blue. And tried with WB settings of SEN parameter Auto and discreet.

Is there any solution simple I am missing or do I NEED to go with FW updates? Affraid given no 100% safe fixes.
 
I think all of them: cockpit wheel animation, real steering angle (seeing from outside) plus the turn indicator.
They all reach MAX after just 180deg revolution.
 
BWX
Using this combo in pic and first tested it with Wreckfest on PC in "red" PC mode for several hours and no problems using heavy FFB.
Then I did a bunch of testing in Blue PS5 mode in WRC 9 on PS5 and no problems. Yesterday I ran several hours of F1 2023 on PS5 in blue PS5 mode and no problems.
Going to test out GT7 soon in blue mode. Ever since v1.49 I was getting disconnects in GT7 in Blue PS5 mode, so switched to light blue PS4 mode. But then I noticed I was also getting disconnects in other games in blue mode on PS5 and now I don't, so I am thinking they finally solved this issue. I actually got the FFB feeling really good in those games mentioned above. I was amazed I how good I got F1 2023 FFB feeling with this wheel after some settings tweaks, and I've never had any luck getting FFB to feel right in any F1 game. This wheelbase has some amazing FFB, I'll be able to tell if there's any dramatic changes when I test it out with GT7, I never noticed anything weird with FFB after updating FW to 2.2.3.7 though. Feels great as usual.

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I was not having issues w DD+ & PS5 so stayed at 455. I did not like 457 but that was before 1.49

However it looks like this is the new baseline for the upcoming release so Iā€™ve installed this combo as they seem to think this fixes most (all?) discos. No issues so far for me

FFB feels the same or similarish - the 1.49 update makes it harder to tell as there are bigger differences between cars now that was not there before and back to back FW testing is cumbersome

But so far Iā€™d say if not the same its not noticeably worse either so Iā€™ll live w it as I need a few other fixes down the road like for my now unused GT3/PBME for one
 
Eliminatorek
I have a headache: Should I play with Firmware and fixes or stay as is (factory settings) on my FANATEC DD Pro.

Setup is:
WB Gran Turismo DD Pro
CSL UB V2 (Universal Hub)
QR2
CSL Pedals

Issue is:
On GT7 - Wheel Lock (Angle). It is 360deg total (180deg left/right) for each and every car.

Tried with both Modes Purple and blue. And tried with WB settings of SEN parameter Auto and discreet.

Is there any solution simple I am missing or do I NEED to go with FW updates? Affraid given no 100% safe fixes.
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This is not a FW issue. There is no fix. Its just the cockpit animation limit in GT7

w SENS on the wheel set to auto, in game the full lock is 1080 (+/- 540) which you can see under options controller settings calibration which shows wheel & pedal responses

In a couple of road cars (m3, Delorean) I can physically rotate my wheel until full lock which is 900 (+/- 450). In a replay side view while stopped you can see the tire rotation continues even tho the driver stops turning the steering wheel at 180

Full lock likely varies by car type - I didnā€™t test all. Also setting wheel SENS to a specific value was not tested - how this affects what the game does or each car donā€™t know but it wonā€™t change cockpit wheel animation regardless
 
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Thank you for response.

Indeed in calibration menu wheel is in line with the one on screen.
On the other hand while driving I have a filling full lock is less then 900/1080.

Anyone can advise if experienced upgrading FW from stock with wheelBase purchased in 2024? Worth it or leaving you with regrets.
 
a bit more on lock - w auto set on the wheel gives 1080 max in GT, the road cars seem to be at 900, along w GR4. The race cars end up at 540

But you can set the wheel manually and GT will recognize the max 2250 that you can set. But it then scales this, likely by class of cars above, so you could set a smaller or larger lock by setting it manually. GT seems to recognize it dynamically so you can change while in car
 
With Sensitivity setting in "Auto" every single car calibrates automatically to the stock max degrees of rotation according to the "real life" steering rack. Or at least this is what it is supposed to do....

When in this setting value you can clearly see in cockpit view , for every single one car in the game that the steering wheel follows your physical steering wheel until some point the steering animation stops.

It is just a limitation that PD has for some reason.

Also just in case you missed it you are writing in GT DD Extreme's thread.
 
Thanks guys I will give it a test since I feel like it looked differently.
ANDRITSOULAS
Also just in case you missed it you are writing in GT DD Extreme's thread.
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Yes, thx for notice. I just followed post updating in regards to FW fix quoted from Fanatec forums and DD+ updates.
 
Spent a few hours yesterday in GT7 with new base FW 2.2.3.7 on GT DD X in Blue PS5 Mode and also using PSVR2. No disconnects!
I think they fixed it for good this time which is great. If anything FFB felt a little weaker overall on the same settings, but I hardly ever use 100%, so for instance instead of using 75% I'll use 80% on the wheel. But overall FFB is similar as it ever was, maybe a little smoother overall if anything. It's hard to say because I didn't test the FW versions back to back.

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I'm still scared to even load 457 on my working DD+. I'm still on 455 with base firmware 2.0.1.4 and WQR 1.1.0.3, which is what FANATEC loaded on my replacement base. It's been solid as a rock with no disconnection issues or PS mode workarounds. Their forums did say to stay on 455 and to only load 2.2.3.7 and 1.1.0.3 if and only if you were having issues with 456/457. Seems like those on those firmware versions, now have a workable fix.
 
FMW
I'm still scared to even load 457 on my working DD+. I'm still on 455 with base firmware 2.0.1.4 and WQR 1.1.0.3, which is what FANATEC loaded on my replacement base. It's been solid as a rock with no disconnection issues or PS mode workarounds. Their forums did say to stay on 455 and to only load 2.2.3.7 and 1.1.0.3 if and only if you were having issues with 456/457. Seems like those on those firmware versions, now have a workable fix.
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Yeah if you have no disconnects I would just leave it alone until next public Driver/ FW combo comes out that has added features or something like that. Maybe when GT7 implements Fullforce they will want you to upgrade FW to latest versions. I feel like Fullforce will be released in GT7 soon now that they've figured out the disconnect issues.
 
Seems logical to me. I suspect they are super confident on stability. I wonder what combo they used for last weekends Cup Race in Tokyo, given it was the first time the competitors used the DD+?
 

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