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This is one thing that was so cool about GT5/6, having this huge car collection and browsing them, reading the trivia, while listening to that cheezy jazzy elevator music. It really adds to the car collector/museum feel. 👍
FM7 vs. PCars 2 vs. GT:Sport
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I understand his too, now that he actually wrote something. He thinks that car collecting is just as prominent now as it was in the past. I don't agree.
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Good thing that no one said that, although I did say that Forza is the one running the car collecting game now. It's fine that some feel that GTS is just as much still a car collecting game as it was in the past, I just don't believe so.
And the issue is what, with that? When discussing a game and its car customization and collecting efforts, it makes sense to talk about how prominent it is, to itself and its competitors.
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Sorry folks, I got to give this one to forza for being prominent; Each car is featured with the exact same wing upgrade that falls off as soon as someone taps your rear at the first corner. Maybe some one from the pit crew need to put some more bolts in that thing to hold it down, huh?
I prefer quality over quantity with these games. although GTSP does not feature 1200 cars it is certainly not lacking in quantity. but what is satisfactory to me may not be acceptable to others. So, it also depends on the quality of content presented with your collections.
I prefer quality over quantity with these games. although GTSP does not feature 1200 cars it is certainly not lacking in quantity. but what is satisfactory to me may not be acceptable to others. So, it also depends on the quality of content presented with your collections.
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Well, that's already false, since Hatchbacks have a different wing option
You're right on that aspect though, the cars that do not have their own customization parts all get their generic Forza wing instead. What exactly is the issue with that? As for the wing falling off as soon as you get hit, I've gotten hit pretty hard and still had it attached. However, you're not really adding much anymore if all your going to do is try to detract from it with things like this that have no baring on the discussion. You're doing your points no service to try to talk about odd things like this.
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Complete tosh
One of the aero upgrades is the Forza aero but it's by no means the only option. What aero options does GTS have?
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You're right, it definitely isn't lacking in Quantity for a racing game, it only looks that way when you compare it to itself and take into consideration the amount of time it took.
Although, That implies that there is no quality for other games with high counts though, which really isn't the case.
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GTSP features the wing that belongs to the car, not some fictional wing . The optional forza wing is too flimsy and nothing to bragg about imo.
yeah, GTSP has started from the ground up. This brings a whole new polish in the game. When I think of what forza7 has to offer I see only an upgrade from what I already had in forza6 as far as quantity. Quality? I only assume the forza7 is very similar to forza6, again I already have it.
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What in the world.. how did you even come to this conclusion? They're literally both fictional wings. Not one person is bragging about it, so I'm not sure why you'd bring it up as if someone was. I'll give you that Forza's isn't the best looking, however, it's also not the only option for many, many cars. GTS doesn't even allow you the option to change any thing aesthetically, besides the rims. So having an option to do that is better than not.
GTS is not the only one to start from the ground up, and regardless of that, that doesn't eliminate any issues anyways as @fatkid has put some perspective on it as well with these posts
I hope so. Weather, more tracks and cars are what I am waiting for. Seeing things like this is disappointing:
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Compared to Driveclub
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All these photos were taken during a race replay, on a regular PS4, by me, completely unmolested. Not even using any ingame camera features to enhance or detract from the quality of the images.
Now graphics aren't everything but still disappointing considering what PD were touting.
Starting from the ground up is a nice thing to do, especially when working with content that came from the last generation of consoles. I'm glad that Forza and Gran Turismo have taken this step.
As for Quantity from Forza 6 to Forza 7, there is literally a couple hundred more cars added into it since then. Quality being the same as Forza 6 is in no way a bad thing, as quality was already there in the first place.
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So none then, thanks for clearing that up.
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That is how Forza does it too. So I wouldn't say "no other racing game has done it before", considering one has done it and is already out.
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I don't think all the information you sent can depict the most accurate representation to judge by.
captures from ps4's driveclub are also very gorgeous. GTSP offers a more comprehensive photo mode but I will contrast the differences through only using the PS4 picture share button.
Driveclub
GTSP
real
particularly car modeling
do you have any examples from forza7 you'd like to share?
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I don't think all the information you sent can depict the most accurate representation to judge by.
captures from ps4's driveclub are also very gorgeous. GTSP offers a more comprehensive photo mode but I will contrast the differences through only using the PS4 picture share button.
Driveclub
GTSP
real
do you have any examples from forza7 you'd like to share?
Plenty of good examples from FM7 in this thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/the-realistic-fm7-photo-thread.360177/#post-11985038
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Why not? It's directly from the game, that's as accurate as you can get. This is talking about modeling in particular, during gameplay scenarios.
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Your right, GTS doesn't even model engine bays and car compartments. It wouldn't be fair for them.
Sarcasm aside, GTS's models are better in certain area's like the headlight and taillight design where as Forza models have more actually detailed because of all the areas they model that GTS does not. However, other games are hardly behind in terms of modeling specifically. What really makes GTS's stand out is the lighting and shaders, not the modeling per se.
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Ok, but that changes what about what I said? Outside of the modeling they have done on taillights and headlights, the cars in all the other games still actually look like the cars in real life as well as the fact that Forza really isn't behind on modeling like you seem to be pretending.
What cars are you having an issue with from these other games that make you think that way?
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You're the one that made the claim about it. You said that others are not comparable, so please show us what you where talking about, and what car in Forza you're looking at that helped you make that assumption.
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Why on earth have you used a shot taken with a wide angle lens in Driveclub, which has resulted in quite clear barrel distortion?I don't think all the information you sent can depict the most accurate representation to judge by.
captures from ps4's driveclub are also very gorgeous. GTSP offers a more comprehensive photo mode but I will contrast the differences through only using the PS4 picture share button.
Driveclub
GTSP
real
particularly car modeling
do you have any examples from forza7 you'd like to share?
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warning!!! Im not a photographer, laugh as much as you wish, and honestly I don't know what a wide body Lens is, sry.
I don't think i can get it any better with this. Im sure a better shot could be done probably with a different photographer.
Driveclub
real
Gran Turismo Sport demo
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I am a car lover, however I am not good at racing games, maybe slightly above average.
I played PCars2 and found that it was not fun, especially with a controller. So I returned it and got a refund (Nice Policy EB Games, kudos on that)
I have FM7 and love it, it’s completely accessible to someone of my level.
I played GT Sport for the last 3 Days of Beta and I really like it to.
I think all 3 have a place in the market, basically don’t get caught up being a fanboi of any of them. Pick what you like and play that.
Happy Racing.
I played PCars2 and found that it was not fun, especially with a controller. So I returned it and got a refund (Nice Policy EB Games, kudos on that)
I have FM7 and love it, it’s completely accessible to someone of my level.
I played GT Sport for the last 3 Days of Beta and I really like it to.
I think all 3 have a place in the market, basically don’t get caught up being a fanboi of any of them. Pick what you like and play that.
Happy Racing.
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Hold on. I know for certain Driveclub's pictures look a million times better than that.
Anyway, I got into a discussion with a friend earlier telling me about the GTS demo, how it's the best thing out. I told him that I didn't agree with him. His thing was about how the car handled, how the graphics were, the livery editor(things I see people posting about on here). I'll admit, the game looks orgasmic, but I need more than that.
--Friend doesn't do Xbox, so he don't wanna deal with Forza.
My first thing was that I checked the car list. As of now, there's only 7 cars that i would want to drive. That's not enough for me. Once I get those seven, add a livery to each one, place them in scapes and race them around some tracks, then what?
I told him that I love having plenty of tracks to race at, and I get that with PC2 and Forza 7. I especially want to race at Circuit of The Americas, since it's in Texas. I love the car count of Forza 7; plenty of cars for me to play with customize how I want and race with friends. Plus, with Forza 7, I wanna race that Trailcat.
But from the years of playing racing games, I went from an arcade/simcade racer to more of a mechanic/racer. I feel like I can do more of that on PC2 and Forza 7.
I may get GTS down the road, but I don't see it as a priority to get like most do on here.
Anyway, I got into a discussion with a friend earlier telling me about the GTS demo, how it's the best thing out. I told him that I didn't agree with him. His thing was about how the car handled, how the graphics were, the livery editor(things I see people posting about on here). I'll admit, the game looks orgasmic, but I need more than that.
--Friend doesn't do Xbox, so he don't wanna deal with Forza.
My first thing was that I checked the car list. As of now, there's only 7 cars that i would want to drive. That's not enough for me. Once I get those seven, add a livery to each one, place them in scapes and race them around some tracks, then what?
I told him that I love having plenty of tracks to race at, and I get that with PC2 and Forza 7. I especially want to race at Circuit of The Americas, since it's in Texas. I love the car count of Forza 7; plenty of cars for me to play with customize how I want and race with friends. Plus, with Forza 7, I wanna race that Trailcat.
But from the years of playing racing games, I went from an arcade/simcade racer to more of a mechanic/racer. I feel like I can do more of that on PC2 and Forza 7.
I may get GTS down the road, but I don't see it as a priority to get like most do on here.
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Yeah, that's what I was telling my friend. I'm not really excited for GTS. What I'll probably do is buy my son a PS4 Pro for his birthday along with GTS. That way if he wants to play Forza, I'll hop on GTS. But that's next May, so that'll give time to get bugs and other stuff out the way.
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More to the point, what is a poor shot taken from drive club doing in a FM7 vs PC2 vs GTS thread?
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Having played all 3 games, I enjoy both pCARS 2 and FM7 the most. With FM7 used as the go to game for short burst of fun and car collection, pCARS 2 for long races with full race weekends and well classed cars.
Career structure in FM7 is not bad and the driving physics feels much better for me than FM6. pCARS 2 career is alright but I don't really like the idea that I have to restart a championship when I'm not in the podium and the improved gamepad controls feels great to me.
GTS is lacking in too many areas, the cars are well classed but I'm not fan of their Vision GT cars mixed into it and the lack of classics. The track available at demo is not bad but based on the full track list it is lacking many real world tracks, also the lack of proper single player career feels odd to me.
Not really a fan of GTS driving physics, the AMG GT3 in GTS is the most stable iteration of the car when compared other games with the same or similar car. Having TC off for the drift event in the M4 felt weird too, it feels very twitchy compared to the M4 in AC.
Career structure in FM7 is not bad and the driving physics feels much better for me than FM6. pCARS 2 career is alright but I don't really like the idea that I have to restart a championship when I'm not in the podium and the improved gamepad controls feels great to me.
GTS is lacking in too many areas, the cars are well classed but I'm not fan of their Vision GT cars mixed into it and the lack of classics. The track available at demo is not bad but based on the full track list it is lacking many real world tracks, also the lack of proper single player career feels odd to me.
Not really a fan of GTS driving physics, the AMG GT3 in GTS is the most stable iteration of the car when compared other games with the same or similar car. Having TC off for the drift event in the M4 felt weird too, it feels very twitchy compared to the M4 in AC.
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My post in other subforum is equally relevant here:
GT Sport AI = Credible Opponents, a genuine joy to race against especially in the endurance races
whereas
Forza 7 AI = Infuriating Obstacles , so much so that when I play offline I just run solo laps in different cars, the F7 AI bothers me that much, how could they get it so wrong?
GT Sport AI = Credible Opponents, a genuine joy to race against especially in the endurance races
whereas
Forza 7 AI = Infuriating Obstacles , so much so that when I play offline I just run solo laps in different cars, the F7 AI bothers me that much, how could they get it so wrong?
