Formula 1 Gran Premio de España Santander 2012

[SilverArrow]

God, that looks horrible, though these doesn't look too bad.

Those BBC shots make it look alot less dramatic since they were in the paddock, behind it. For Sky they were in the pit lane and showed clearly how chaotic it was.

 

[Matty]

Those BBC shots make it look alot less dramatic since they were in the paddock, behind it. For Sky they were in the pit lane and showed clearly how chaotic it was.

Completely agree. Hopefully they will release some CCTV shots from inside the garage at some stage to see exactly what caused it.

 

[Furinkazen]

 

[SilverArrow]

Don't know if you can view this out of the UK: http://www1.skysports.com/formula1/video/12870/7754160

 

[Ross]

Completely agree. Hopefully they will release some CCTV shots from inside the garage at some stage to see exactly what caused it.

Wouldn't the CCTV camera's have been destroyed though?

 

[Furinkazen]

I blame oil money from Veneuezla. But seriously, hoping all is ok.

 

[Matty]

Wouldn't the CCTV camera's have been destroyed though?

Tapes would be fine. Initial combustion would have been caught. And most cameras from Pastors side would have escaped the flames.

 

[Ross]

Tapes would be fine. Initial combustion would have been caught. And most cameras from Pastors side would have escaped the flames.

True, any footage at this time would help to try and find the cause but in the video above it says that there were a lot of fuel cans and oil and gearbox stuff where the fire erupted.

 

[mattythedog]

They're now saying it wasn't KERS related, and was an electrical problem near the fuel. Unconfirmed 9 casualties. 4 from Williams, 4 Caterham, 1 Force India. 1 airlifted to hospital

 

[Matty]

True, any footage at this time would help to try and find the cause but in the video above it says that there were a lot of fuel cans and oil and gearbox dtuff where the fire erupted.

True, but all will be reviewed in any case.

 

[Lizard]

Anyone still folowing this story or have they all started showing other programs?

(By anyone I mean any tv channel).

 

[SilverArrow]

Schumacher gets 5 place grid penalty in Monaco.

 

[lbsf1]

They're now saying it wasn't KERS related, and was an electrical problem near the fuel. Unconfirmed 9 casualties. 4 from Williams, 4 Caterham, 1 Force India. 1 airlifted to hospital

Hope they are all ok. Just watched the video from sky and some of them were very brave venturing into the smoke with the extinquishers to try and douse the source of the fire.

 

[Matty]

They're now saying it wasn't KERS related, and was an electrical problem near the fuel. Unconfirmed 9 casualties. 4 from Williams, 4 Caterham, 1 Force India. 1 airlifted to hospital

👎

Hopefully all will be able to participate in Monaco next week.

 

[tribolik]

Williams was trully the hot team today

sorry for the joke

 

[hornet_burnout]

Schumacher gets 5 place grid penalty in Monaco.

Serious? I was afraid someone would rule Senna "too much in the way" or something...

Hope all ok from that fire incident :s

 

[Furinkazen]

Just found a very amusing (to me) screen-cap on facebook on my news feed, appears Jenson is desperate for support...

 

[Prince.M5]

Hopefully all will be able to participate in Monaco next week.

I think all of them will be joining in Monaco with the exception of one Caterham personnel with a broken wrist.

I'm not sure if Williams have all the spare equipments for the race in Monaco because the original plan is to take every equipments from Spain straight to Monaco but since this happened, they may be there lacking a lot of stuff!

 

[mattythedog]

Williams was trully the hot team today

sorry for the joke

Not now mate. Save it for when we know everyone is alright, right now is not the time for jokes.

 

[Lizard]

Anyone still folowing this story or have they all started showing other programs?

(By anyone I mean any tv channel).

I will take that as no then.

 

[dhandeh]

I will take that as no then.

Indeed. Not a lot happening there now as it was cordoned off after by the Police. I'm sure there will be full rundown of events when the facts are out.

 

[Prince.M5]

I wonder if they actually store any KERS system there but looked like it started on Pastor's side of the garage.

Mike Coughlan. One of the hero in the tragedy.

 

[Seismica]

Aren't drivers allowed to only move one time anyway? Thus making Senna being at fault here.

Schumacher did stick with the outside line, while Senna moved in his path again. And while looking back, Schumacher was a whole lot faster than Senna who seemed to be having problems with his car. Moving twice into the line of a car far faster than you is a bad thing IMO

Exactly this.

Which side should he have moved over to without completely screwing up his racing line and rhythm? Schumacher moved to the left when Senna was struggling with his car, then Senna moved into his way again. That's how I see it. Both are wrong, but Senna more.

The regulations say:

20.3 More than one change of direction to defend a position is not permitted. Any driver moving back towards the racing line, having earlier defended his position off‐line, should leave at least one car width between his own car and the edge of the track on the approach to the corner.

He made one move, then returned to his racing line, leaving one car width as the regulations stipulate. How on earth was the incident Senna's fault?

Schumacher was on the outside and tried to move over to the inside in the braking zone even though there was still room on the outside. There was still room for him on the outside, but Michael knew he wouldn't have made the move stick because Senna would have had the line for turn 2. If he wanted to overtake on the inside he should have positioned his car to the right of Senna's, not to the left.

 

[dhandeh]

He made one move, then returned to his racing line, leaving one car width as the regulations stipulate. How on earth was the incident Senna's fault?

Because Schumi said it was his fault and the sheep all agree.

 

[Alex p.]

Because Schumi said it was his fault and the sheep all agree.

Lol? I didn't know the regulations exact to be honest, thus my misjudgement. But one point still stands: Senna didn't behave too intelligent either.

 

[Matty]

Lol? I didn't know the regulations exact to be honest, thus my misjudgement. But one point still stands: Senna didn't behave too intelligent either.

He did do a fair blocking manoeuvre.

 

[hornet_burnout]

The regulations say:



He made one move, then returned to his racing line, leaving one car width as the regulations stipulate. How on earth was the incident Senna's fault?

Schumacher was on the outside and tried to move over to the inside in the braking zone even though there was room on the outside. There was still room for him on the outside, but Michael knew he wouldn't have made the move stick because Senna would have had the line for turn 2. If he wanted to overtake on the inside he should have positioned his car to the right of Senna's, not to the left.

Senna goes back left waiting for the inevitable dive. Shummy just brakes too late, and behind Senna instead of committing to the inside. It would have been a text book "break on the inside on T1" if he hadn't messed up IMO.

Anyway... apparently no (major) harm from the fire, good.

Pastor on his best behavior. Good. Although I'd still fear racing for position with him.

Lotus, not so good... could have done better.

5 race, 5 different drivers and team winners. Excellent! 👍

 

[Alex p.]

He did do a fair blocking manoeuvre.

I guess so. Still didn't make it any easier for Schumacher to judge the situation, he just had too much speed to judge properly, thus the stupid-ish mistake.

 

[csmeteora9]

Picture of Senna's car in the Williams garage after the fire...

https://twitter.com/#!/tomcary_tel/status/201708744214724608/photo/1

Hopefully all of those who were taking to the medical center will be alright.

 

[Prince.M5]

Lotus, not so good... could have done better.

I think Lotus did pretty good this weekend. Sure they lacked the pace of the two front runners but they managed to run away from Vettel, Rosberg and all still shows that the car is capable of showing more. Shame that Raikkonen only get to reeled in the front runners on the very last stint. True enough, they could've done better but not bad this weekend.