Formula 1 Heineken Grande Prêmio De São Paulo 2021Formula 1

[Sum1s2pid]

Dramatic weekend capped off with an entertaining race in front of an amazing crowd.

Ferrari grabbed so many points today and walked away from Gasly.

Alpine fared better than I would've thought.

C'mon, McLaren, let's gooooooooooo! Time's running out.

Anxious to see how Qatar and Jeddah play out.

 

[Dylan]

Anyone else hear someone go “Nyoom”?

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Ah the crypto.com board for most overtakes - Alonso is top at 114, followed by Vettel and Stroll

 

[PaMu1337]

Anyone else here someone go “Nyoom”?

Yeah, after qualy there was also someone singing with the theme song

 

[phillgt2002]

Anyone else here someone go “Nyoom”?

Yeah, I did.

One thing, the fact that they even thought of taking Brazil off the calendar is shameful. It's a fantastic track with a ton of history and provides an entertaining race. I'll never forget 2016 with the pouring rain and Verstappen putting on a show.

 

[McLaren]

For a very long time, Lewis had way more penalty points than Max. He was even very close to a race ban at one point

Edit: to be precise, Lewis scored 7 more penalty points than Max (13 vs 6) in the last 3 years

Because of 2020. Run the full length since 2014 if you're claiming, "a very long time".

'14: 0-0
'15: 8-2 Max.
'16: 1-0 Max.
'17: 3-2 Max.
'18: 7-0 Max.
'19: 4-3 Max.
'20: 0-8 Lewis.
'21: 2-2 Even.

That's 25-17 since the system came into effect....

 

[PaMu1337]

Because of 2020. Run the full length since 2014 if you're claiming, "a very long time".

'14: 0-0
'15: 8-2 Max.
'16: 1-0 Max.
'17: 3-2 Max.
'18: 7-0 Max.
'19: 4-3 Max.
'20: 0-8 Lewis.
'21: 2-2 Even.

That's 25-17 since the system came into effect....

A long time ago, sure. But in recent years, it's really Lewis getting into significantly more incidents, especially last year.

 

[Roo]

I remember Hamilton being public enemy no.1 in Brazil, funny how things change.

 

[Jimlaad43]

I'm giving this race 10/10 on IMDb. Exciting from start to the pass for the lead (nothing happened after Lewis broke DRS)

 

[McLaren]

A long time ago, sure. But in recent years, it's really Lewis getting into significantly more incidents, especially last year.

Recent years? Bro, until last year, Max had 23 points. Lewis had 7. You said for a long time, Lewis had more points, but that has never been true.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

Having the 2008 finale here still etched in my memory, bit odd that Lewis has support in Brazil.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Having the 2008 finale here still etched in my memory, bit odd that Lewis has support in Brazil.

Being a Senna fan definitely helps, but look what he's doing with the Brazilian flag on the Podium, he has them on his side now easily.

 

[Fat Tyre]

Lewis was outstanding, best thing is the championship is really not over now. Bonus points for Brazilian flag toga/cape.

 

[AshenGraey]

Regardless of who you are rooting for....you can't take anything away from Lewis this weekend.....that was super impressive from him. I'm glad he won because this championship will now go to the final race!

I expected Red Bull to be a lot faster here. Max couldn't get away at all and that pace at which Lewis dropped him by the time they finished is crazy.

To hear Max getting boos....that's certainly a first 😲...I thought Lewis had that trademarked this season!! Lol 😂

 

[Rossell2]

I think that's the most I've been glued to the live text for a while. Haven't seen footage of the running wide incident so will report my feelings when I do.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Enjoy the champagne guys, you're on Rosewater for the last 3 races

 

[PaMu1337]

Recent years? Bro, until last year, Max had 23 points. Lewis had 7. You said for a long time, Lewis had more points, but that has never been true.

If in the last 3 years, Lewis scored over twice as many penalty points as Max, then yes, in recent years Lewis had loads more incidents.

Yes, Max had 23 points in total last year, but most of those were from a long time ago. So you're not talking about recent years any more.

2019 they were very close, 2020 Lewis had way more. This year they are equal.

Also, points expire after a year, so since early last year, Lewis had way more active points (I think most of them have expired very recently, so they are now both on a low count again). Basically, for the last 1.5 years, Lewis was way higher on active points, which was my original argument.

 

[Jubby]

No. Don't reinvent what's been said so you can attack what hasn't been said.

Let's agree to stop doing what each other doesn't like. I'm game.

 

[OutlawQuadrnt]

I think it also shows just how much the teams have to hold back on their power units. Hamilton was a rocket ship down the straight.

 

[Famine]

Oh damn, I forgot the next three races were all Sportswashing GPs. I guess Verstappen has won the real championship then.

Having the 2008 finale here still etched in my memory, bit odd that Lewis has support in Brazil.

Well he's always idolised Senna, raced in a similar helmet back in the day, and he's worked with the Senna Foundation for over a decade (even though he mis-spelled his name on Twitter last weekend ), which has kind of endeared him to Brazilians. I think the disappointment of Massa being denied WDC by one point at his home track (by Timo Glock) has faded somewhat in the face of that.

I think that's the most I've been glued to the live text for a while. Haven't seen footage of the running wide incident so will report my feelings when I do.

Let's just say that if the cars were the opposite way round, Whinger Spice would be going purple into a microphone on camera right now and Marko would be calling for a race ban.

(not that this means much; they do that all the time)

Let's agree to stop doing what each other doesn't like. I'm game.

"If you stop stating opinions I'll stop making stuff up about your opinions" isn't the deal you think it is.

And no.

 

[McLaren]

Yes, Max had 23 points in total last year, but most of those were from a long time ago. So you're not talking about recent years any more.

You are the one who said for a long time originally, just switched it up to recent years.

For a very long time, Lewis had way more penalty points than Max.

That was never true until last season. Max had triple the amount of points Lewis had, 23-7. He still has more points than Lewis to this day, even with 2020 which is the only season Lewis ever had more points in a season than Max.

Also, points expire after a year, so since early last year, Lewis had way more active points (I think most of them have expired very recently, so they are now both on a low count again). Basically, for the last 1.5 years, Lewis was way higher on active points, which was my original argument.

Nah mate, you went from "a very long time" to "in recent years" & now talking about active points.

 

[Dreadmed]

It wouldn't surprise me if Merc decide to slot a new "tweaked" ICE for each of the last 3 races (and/or RB for Max truth be told), that car was an absolute rocket all event. It does make a mockery of the rules but looking over recent races and the fact those two teams are leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else, AND that it's only a 5 place drop... why not?

 

[GTFan24]

It wouldn't surprise me if Merc decide to slot a new "tweaked" ICE for each of the last 3 races (and/or RB for Max truth be told), that car was an absolute rocket all event. It does make a mockery of the rules but looking over recent races and the fact those two teams are leaps and bounds ahead of everyone else, AND that it's only a 5 place drop... why not?

Im sure at this point we'll be calling RB whiners again if they protest to the FIA if Merc decide to try the ICE change strategy at Qatar again

 

[PaMu1337]

You are the one who said for a long time originally, just switched it up to recent years.

That was never true until last season. Max had triple the amount of points Lewis had, 23-7.

Nah mate, you went from "a very long time" to "in recent years" & now talking about active points.

Now it just comes down to semantics. I consider the last 1.5 years to be a long time. And by my original comment, I meant the recent long time, as in "Lewis has been having more penalty points for a long time now" (sorry if that was not clear).

And active points are just how the rules work, so of course I'm talking about those

 

[Famine]

It wouldn't surprise me if Merc decide to slot a new "tweaked" ICE for each of the last 3 races (and/or RB for Max truth be told), that car was an absolute rocket all event.

I think the choice was to take the five places drop here (the 25-place drop wasn't in the plan!) because they were looking strong anyway, and they don't know what Saudi Arabia and Qatar will look like in performance terms as they're new tracks. It means Mercedes now has two current race engines for the #44 car which it can use as it sees fit for the last three races - and Red Bull might have to take a new engine for the #33 in the last three races because they had damaged units after both Silverstone and Hungary.

 

[Liquid]

I remember Hamilton being public enemy no.1 in Brazil, funny how things change.

 

[Demon Drone]

Now it just comes down to semantics. I consider the last 1.5 years to be a long time. And by my original comment, I meant the recent long time, as in "Lewis has been having more penalty points for a long time now" (sorry if that was not clear)

Your back must hurt from moving the goal posts around this much. You were proven wrong and now you're trying to back pedal on it. You aren't fooling anyone.

 

[McLaren]

Now it just comes down to semantics.

Basically, for the last 1.5 years, Lewis was way higher on active points, which was my original argument.

Right.....

For a very long time, Lewis had way more penalty points than Max.

A long time ago, sure. But in recent years,

Yes, Max had 23 points in total last year, but most of those were from a long time ago. So you're not talking about recent years any more.

Lewis scored 7 more penalty points than Max (13 vs 6) in the last 3 years

Lewis had more points than Max for a long time, but Max's 23 over Lewis' 7 was also from a long time ago. I was never talking about "recent years" b/c that's not the wording you originally said. Your "original argument" was also the last 1.5 years, but you also mentioned the last 3 at one point to clarify yourself....


The only one playing semantics you now trying to bring up, "well, now there's active points vs. inactive" b/c you tripped over your timeline.

 

[PaMu1337]

Your back must hurt from moving the goal posts around this much. You were proven wrong and now you're trying to back pedal on it. You aren't fooling anyone.

I didn't move a single goal post. This is honestly what I meant from the start. Lewis has had more active penalty points for a long time now, only very recently coming back to an equal level with Max.

The original argument was that (paraphrasing) Max was always the dirtier driver, and he referenced penalty points. I just countered that, just going by penalty points, Lewis has been the dirtier driver for quite a while now.

But that is honestly all besides the point, since I do believe that Max deserved a penalty today.

 

[Fat Tyre]

Can someone make an "In your face" Wolff meme template please?