Why mention Ialyrn as she was talking about wheel use?
She was talking about both in that post. Seriously, read entire posts. It does wonders.
"Harcore" would make a lot more sense as a name for it in the assists menu, since the menu doesn't specify wheel or controller.
Simulation steering is an "assist" like TCS off but you are comparing it to SRF which is an assist that gives you more grip if you break traction. Strange thing to do I must say.
Because nobody would say that GT6's entire physics engine is broken simply because of SRF's existence, so to do I find it strange that you seem to insist FM6's physics engine is broken simply because of Simulation steering's existence.
I did ask VXR a question, just wanted to know what issues.
And, completely unsurprisingly, you don't see an issue with the documented issues with another game's physics engine. But a game you have no experience with, you continue to make claims you can't hope to back up. Got it.
Bingo, so why does car not react realistic? I think it goes back to the games physics engine.
Of course you do. So explain why, then.
How is it that people here are calling Sim steering and aid or an assist? You do know that sim means simulation right? That means that sim steering is supposed to be realistic steering and normal is an assisted steering.
Sim steering definitely does not work properly and normal steering is definitely assisted steering not as much so as the assisted steering option but assisted none the less.
Normal steering is no more assisted than it is in other console racers (on controller). Filtering, speed-sensitive steering, and counter-steer aids are all present on GT6, because working with the couple millimetres of travel a stick provides means they need to be. That's all most people are saying here, with exception to the person with no experience of the game.
As for grip issues there are definitely issues there as well, I am amazed that i see as many people defending it as I do here yet that does not change the fact that many if not most of the cars in FM6 suffer from unrealistic oversteer conditions. Almost every car made is stock tuned for understeer for safety reasons but in Forza 6 most of them are default tuned for oversteer.
I'm currently going through stock cars in E Class. I've found very few cars that oversteer, period. "But wait", you'll say, "those are the slow cars!" and while you wouldn't be wrong, oversteer can and does happen in the lower classes. There are probably still people pulling the arse-end of a Peugeot 205 out of a hedge somewhere in the UK as I type this. But other than the Gurkha (which has absolutely ridiculous levels of oversteer, in all situations), I've found very few cars that don't behave themselves, as you'd expect them to, in different situations. The A110 will wag its tail if you deliberately go off-throttle mid-turn. The 2002 Turbo will do the same when you stamp on the go-pedal and the boost finally arrives. A few of the older front-drivers will tuck quite nicely with a lift, and will require a bit of counter-steer. But the majority will plow on with the hammer down. Some far worse than others.
For higher class cars, well, I've got a lot less experience driving Lambos and such in real life. I do find some of the cars feel less grippy than I would expect, but others, like the 458 Speciale or the Ford GT, and even the Z06, seem pretty good, at least going by what I can find out about them off videos (which is apparently enough to be conclusive for some). If I drive a GT3-class racer like a ham-fisted nut, I fully expect it to misbehave and slide all over the place. I'm not sure why that should be surprising to people.
I know some here will disagree, maybe because they do not know any better, maybe because they like a car that oversteers and to them it is fine or maybe they just love Forza so much that they can not admit that it does not do something right yet the fact is that it does tend to oversteer when it should not.
I actually only like a car that oversteers when I'm lapping for fun; for serious hotlapping, I'd much rather it be slightly understeery than over, if only for consistency. I also recognize that in-game, I'm doing a whole lot of maximum-lock turning with max throttle, so I expect the cars to get unruly a bit more than they would if I were driving them in the real world, where I wouldn't be driving at 10/10 all the time.
If I play watch someone else play GT6 with the d pad on an original Dual Shock, what can I infer from the accuracy of the physics of that title when they crash?
Anything you want, with certainty. Apparently.
