Gran Premio d'Italia

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It's that time again, with the start of the Italian Grand Prix no less than 1 day away. The Monza circuit is famous throughout motor racing, and has hosted a round of the Formula 1 World Championship in every single season bar one - when the race briefly moved to Imola in 1980.

The home of Ferrari, Italy has only ever had 2 Formula 1 World Champions - Nuvolari and Ascari. This year their hopes will rest not only with the mighty Scuderia Ferrari, but with Jarno Trulli and Giancarlo Fisichella as well.

Monza is notoriously hard on both brakes and engines, with cars reaching speeds of 360km/h at the end of the start straight, following the giant sweeping turn Parabolica. Numerous chicanes have been added to what was essentually an oval in the beginning, but these didn't slow Michael Schumacher from setting the fastest average speed ever recorded for a Grand Prix last year, at some 247km/h. 2003 saw Ferrari finally return to form after the humiliation of Hungary, with Schumacher winning narrowly from Montoya and Barrichello. Ferrari will be looking to repeat the feat this year, and will no doubt be hungry having lost in Belgium.

McLaren goes to Monza looking set to challenge Ferrari yet again, riding high from their impressive win in Belgium. Whether the Mercedes-Benz will have the power and the consistency to match Ferrari may very well determine the result for their weekend.

Williams are still without Ralf Schumacher, insurance clauses meaning he won't be racing before China. Montoya pushed Schumacher right to the end here last year, and won in 2001, the only non Ferrari driver to do so in recent years. Antonio Pizzonia will once again be replacing Schumacher. Following their double DNF that has seen them fall back into McLaren's clutches, Williams will be keen for a good points haul.

BAR have faded a little from their impressive form in the earlier half of the season, and with Button feeling more and more certain that his move to Williams will be approved, BAR could do with a good result to boost their spirits, and their points tally as they try to close in on Renault.

Renault were another team to suffer at Spa, Trulli finishing 9th after yet another uninspired performance, Alonso spinning out on his own oil while leading. The team maintains an 8 points margin to BAR in the Constructors race, but things are getting tight.

Sauber benefitted from the heavy casualty rate at Spa and will be hoping for similar circumstances in Monza, and that their Bridgestones stand up to the huge loads of the circuit.

Tyres will once again be a large determining factor, and following the number of Michelin failures at Spa, Bridgestone must be optimistic.

All teams should have their setups well and truly finalised before the event begins, with no less than 18 cars running at Monza last week over 3 days.

Some other interesting news revolves around Ford and Jaguar, with Ford apparently wishing to either sell the team to Red Bull magnate Dietrich Mateschitz or change the team to be officially Ford branded.

The FIA has also released a package of 3 different rule proposals for changes in 2005, however the date for agreement was apparently 6th September, and with no official word yet, the world remains in the dark as to just what Formula 1 will look like in 2005.

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Not one of my favourite GP's of the year. But I expect Kimi to be challenging hard for a victory again. With Ferrari having stopping development of this years car, and McLaren still adding bits and pieces, they are bound to match the pace of the Ferrari before long.

I want rain....even in Italy.
 
I was watching the Monaco race last night, I heard one of the ITV commentators say that only three teams this year had stability, Ferrari, Renault and BAR. Now look at two of those teams and notice that there performance has also dropped, so it's true, stability is what makes the difference between a mediocre team and a good team.

I'm hoping McLaren do well and I hope BMW will do well -- but I think the latter is simply false hope.
 
Monza... A good race track. Since it's wide, it leads to a lot of passing and exciting challenges. Hopefully Kimi will be able to get a good pole position to help Mclaren come back and have a go at some points. BMW has been having problems lately, but have been victorious in Imola with enough ease. Hopefully a exicting race and hoping to see some good racing going on.
 
To add more to the pre-2005 mix... BMW is considering dropping out of F1 completely if the new v8 rule makes its way to '05.
 
You should do commentary for Formula 1 races Eagle.Nice read hehe. 👍
Anyway,looking forward to this race.I don't think that the Mclarens will be in the top 5 here(quali),i expect to see a Williams on pole and Michael on the 2nd position.

Oh and has anyone read that Fiat will name their new car Scumi.Pretty cool,soon he'll have his own clothing line lol.
 
GTChamp2003
You should do commentary for Formula 1 races Eagle.Nice read hehe. 👍

Thanks :) I do my best to make things as interesting as I can. I always commentate races for myself and I'm always proud when I pick a driver/event before either ITV commentator lol.

I think Ferrari will have something special for this weekend, this is pretty much the most important race of the season for them. Whilst chassis development has indeed halted, there was another engine spec yet to come, which could very well be in place for Monza - where else would you need more power and consistency than there?

I'm curious how Williams will go - they had those brake problems back in Spain, but then were great come Canada, only to be disqualified for their illegal brake ducts, so I wonder how they'll stand up on a track like Monza.

Olivier Panis has also announced he will retire from competition, staying on for 2 years with Toyota as an advisor and test driver.

There were some interesting results from the Monza tests. Times are cumulative bests of the whole 3 days. Ferrari did not compete on the 3rd day.

1. Antonio Pizzonia, Williams (Michelin), 1'20.010
2. Michael Schumacher, Ferrari (Bridgestone), 1'20.202
3. Rubens Barrichello, Ferrari (Bridgestone), 1'20.244
4. Fernando Alonso, Renault (Michelin), 1'20.611
5. Jenson Button, BAR (Michelin), 1'20.690
6. Kimi Raikkonen, McLaren (Michelin), 1'20.784
7. Juan Pablo Montoya, Williams (Michelin), 1'20.814
8. Anthony Davidson, BAR (Michelin), 1'20.874
 
SouL
To add more to the pre-2005 mix... BMW is considering dropping out of F1 completely if the new v8 rule makes its way to '05.
Are you serious? God, that'd be horrible...Can they even do that with drivers signed or will they just be left without rides?
 
I don't think there are any rules in place at the moment to prevent them doing so, I know that one of the new rules FIA is pushing is to the effect that if an engine manufacturer intends to withdraw from competition, they have to notify the FIA in writing a year before they do so, to give teams enough time to source replacements. Could be a direct result of BMW's threat. BMW did say they were firmly against a V8 powerplant, arguing that V10s could be reduced and made cheaper instead. Losing them would certainly be a big blow. One interesting rule change proposal I heard was that teams would not be allowed to use an engine not offered for sale to at least a certain number of cars in the field.

Blake - you need to stop mixing Williams and BMW, BMW have no drivers signed, nor are they a team - merely an engine supplier ;)
 
Well, first practice is over and Ferrari's flying high.

1. Michael Schumacer (1'20.526)
2. Rubens Barrichello (1'20.861)
3. Anthony Davidson (1'20.902)
4. Kimi Raikkonen (1'21.637)
5. Fernando Alonso (1'21.778)
6. Jenson Button (1'21.904)
7. Jarno Trulli (1'22.052)
8. Bjorn Wirdheim (1'22.065)

Rubens ran the least laps of anyone at 4, Timo Glock the most at 28.
 
hello
I think ferrari will domine all the weekend. they are in home and are celebrating their championships they have win in last races.
so schumacher will win the race and start with pole
barrichello will finish second and third I think will be FAlonso (he's my favourite pilot :)
here the engines and brakes are very important, so McLaren will break again

sorry, my english is bad. anyone talks spanish?
 
Your english is more readable than many members here.:lol:

@EagleYeah, I didn't realise, my mind didn't click that he was reffering to BMW as the engine supplier, rather I thought he meant Williams...:dunce:
 
3. Anthony Davidson (1'20.902)

6. Jenson Button (1'21.904)

Ouch...A second off the time, I wonder if Davidson will be getting a raise next year :confused:
I don't know how he'll do in a race, but he's always putting fast times in practice.
 
He's been impressively quick in practice, moreso when you consider that he's always instantly on the pace, he's the only driver I've seen match the Ferraris in terms of being able to go out there and lap low right from the start.

Second practice:
1. Kimi Räikkönen (1'20.846)
2. Rubens Barrichello (1'20.899)
3. Michael Schumacher (1'21.080)
4. Jenson Button (1'21.124)
5. Antonio Pizzonia (1'21.264)
6. Takuma Sato (1'21.313)
7. Juan Pablo Montoya (1'21.419)
8. Anthony Davidson (1'21.544)

Raikkonen beat out the Ferraris but couldn't reach Michael's morning time.
 
C'mon Kimi, I REALLY hope he wins this! If Ferrari are using that new tire (the type that failed in testing) I wonder how it will hold up?
 
The tyre failure was the result of an air leak that they seemed pretty sure wouldn't recur. They do however have their new spec engine running, the last thing to change on the F2004 for this year.

First Saturday practice has ended, with Montoya first by a whisker:

1. Juan Pablo Montoya (1'21.700)
2. Fernando Alonso (1'21.705)
3. Antonio Pizzonia (1'21.723)
4. Rubens Barrichello (1'21.855)
5. Takuma Sato (1'21.867)
6. Michael Schumacher (1'21.962)
7. Kimi Raikkonen (1'22.018)
8. Jenson Button (1'22.062)

Close times all around.
 
Second practice saw similarly tight times, qualifying should be close.

1. Rubens Barrichello (1'20.555)
2. Juan Pablo Montoya (1'20.653)
3. Jenson Button (1'20.734)
4. Fernando Alonso (1'20.773)
5. Takuma Sato (1'20.805)
6. Kimi Raikkonen (1'20.856)
7. Michael Schumacher (1'20.898)
8. Antonio Pizzonia (1'20.921)
 
Micheal and Kimi a bit down the order, nice to see Montoya near the top 👍

EDIT: Pre Qualifying has started and so far Kimi is ahead of both the Ferrari's. Micheal is 0.027 behind Kimi while Rubens is 0.051 behind. It's going to be a close battle for pole!

EDIT EDIT: Now Fisi is on pp!

EDIT EDIT EDIT: The two Williams cars are flying, both setting 1'19.xxx laps!!!
Montoya is ahead of pixzzonia. Damn!
 
Those Williams cars are so fast it's not funny...

EDIT: The BAr's both have 1'19's too, both behind the Williams cars but still fast! Sato is 3rd, Button in 4th..
 
1 2 Rubens Barrichello Ferrari 1:20.089 -
2 3 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams BMW 1:20.620 +0.531
3 1 Michael Schumacher Ferrari 1:20.637 +0.548
4 8 Fernando Alonso Renault 1:20.645 +0.556
5 10 Takuma Sato BAR Honda 1:20.715 +0.626
6 9 Jenson Button BAR Honda 1:20.786 +0.697
7 6 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren Mercedes 1:20.877 +0.788
8 4 Antonio Pizzonia Williams BMW 1:20.888 +0.799
9 7 Jarno Trulli Renault 1:21.027 +0.938
10 5 David Coulthard McLaren Mercedes 1:21.049 +0.960
11 16 Ricardo Zonta Toyota 1:21.520 +1.431
12 14 Mark Webber Jaguar Cosworth 1:21.602 +1.513
13 17 Olivier Panis Toyota 1:21.841 +1.752
14 15 Christian Klien Jaguar Cosworth 1:21.989 +1.900
15 11 Giancarlo Fisichella Sauber Petronas 1:22.239 +2.150
16 12 Felipe Massa Sauber Petronas 1:22.287 +2.198
17 18 Nick Heidfeld Jordan Ford 1:22.301 +2.212
18 19 Giorgio Pantano Jordan Ford 1:23.239 +3.150
19 21 Zsolt Baumgartner Minardi Cosworth 1:24.808 +4.719
20 20 Gianmaria Bruni Minardi Cosworth 1:24.940 +4.851
 
Currently there are dry spots on the track, and areas of standing water. Now, the sun is coming out, and is drying up the course.
 
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