Gran Turismo 6 coming to PS3

Interesting how?

And Kazunori Yamauchi and others who work for PD had input on the PS4. Kaz was there since the first PS launched and had a part in designing the controller. EDIT - Pretty sure his role in the creation of the PS4 is much bigger seeing as how GT is the best-selling franchise for the PlayStation. Make it easier on the "creation" side.


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http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...vailable_now_for_PlayStation_4_developers.php
It's like the PS4 was made for Gran Turismo. That's what it looks like at least.


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The "interesting how?" need not reply to now that you added that into your post.
 
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Since GT6 has the full attention now, I can't see it being "unfinished", but being very polished this time. :sly: My faith in PD making GT6 the best is pretty high. (I know someone is gonna come out and say "ohhh what a fanboy"). :rolleyes:

You know that how?
 
And I just read you saying GT6 should be a PS3 and PS4 game... I'm glad you aren't the product manager of this title.

LOL - Well, truth be told if I was, the game would be complete by now and in your hand.👍

It's a tricky position to be in. If GT6 releases on PS3 it prevents many from jumping to the PS4 but the game itself will sell a ton. If GT6 releases on PS4 it will force folks to make the jump and certainly boost console sales. If releasing on both platforms simultaneously, it will be stupid because everyone will know that the game will be held back due to the lowest common denominator, the PS3 itself.

That is a very interesting way to look at it, so I guess it all comes down to whether they want GT6 as the motivator on the new system, or as a reason to keep your old one. With that said... that dilemma is exactly why I see it coming to both.

I'll buy GT6 day 1 regardless, but pending what console it's on will have me going to Sony's next platform sooner or not.

Oh, I am positive everyone who takes the time to come here will.

And Kazunori Yamauchi and others who work for PD had input on the PS4. Kaz was there since the first PS launched and had a part in designing the controller. EDIT - Pretty sure his role in the creation of the PS4 is much bigger seeing as how GT is the best-selling franchise for the PlayStation. Make it easier on the "creation" side.

100% agreed with that. PDI was probably there since day one.
 
What? Not a good idea? :irked:

Not a good idea to try and pass off something as fact ("Since GT6 has the full attention now") Then when asked how you know that, you turn around and say "Cause my thoughts said so". Thats not a good idea... Seeing as distribution of false and misleading information is against the AUP...
 
Not a good idea to try and pass off something as fact ("Since GT6 has the full attention now") Then when asked how you know that, you turn around and say "Cause my thoughts said so". Thats not a good idea... Seeing as distribution of false and misleading information is against the AUP...

Okay geez, don't have a cow nvm than. 👎>_>
 
Cause my thoughts said so. :sly: I mean, theres nothing holding PD back now, despite there might be a PS and PS Vita crossover of GT6 if its on PS3 of course. Cool huh? :dopey:

So there is nothing holding them back except possibly pretty much the exact same things that held them back on GT5. Right.
 
Yes Slip I see your point but you must also see WHY I decided to say that.

Perhaps. Fight fire with fire and all that? ;)

You don't know that for sure, and since you like examining the big picture, I believe there is a game coming out that will be on both the PS3 and the PS4.

It's widely-known that the Cell is notoriously difficult to program for. Admittedly, PD are a Sony group, so it's their specialty, but working on a PS4 title in addition to a PS3 version means dealing with porting and coming to terms with the new hardware. Yes, Kaz may have had input in the new system, but it still doesn't change the fact that making two games for two systems would require the team to invest even more man-hours in two projects than they would need for just one (either one, at that). This is a team notorious for not being able to hit a deadline (heck, even creating one is a challenge), so, while I can certainly understand your reasoning behind the desire to have them working on a title for both systems, I personally find it far more reasonable that PD would be focusing their efforts on one or the other.

Not everyone has the same view of quality as I see GT5 as a high quality title that has a some issues. What game doesn't? I just focus on the ones I am willing to look over.

You mentioned the sales, I simply followed the logic provided.

IF, funny how you entire mindset is based off a worse case scenario for Sony.

Very true. But that sort of genre pressure is one of the main reasons I don't see a PS3 version coming. It's certainly expected that a new FM5 will be shown at E3 (T10 sticks to that two-year schedule), so that comparison isn't unlikely, but let's not forget about the enemy within; the PS4 itself. A GT6 shown on the PS3 at E3, surrounded by the massive blitz that will be PS4 title showings, would be lost in the static.

The solution of showing it on the PS4 too? Well, you've now convinced most people interested in the game to get the better version. The PS3 copy might be able to snag a few sales from the hold-outs, those who don't want to be an early adopter of the new system. But if that's the case, do they strike you as the type that will line up for a day one purchase, either? Speaking personally, as of right now, GT6 isn't a day one purchase for me regardless of system, but based on what we see from PD this year, obviously this can change. If they released the game on two systems though, and I wasn't completely sold on it or the PS4? I wouldn't get either copy. I'd see little reason in buying the inferior copy; I'd know a better version of the game I'm playing is out there, and I'm never going to pay for the same game twice, which means I'd wait until the time I do get the PS4 to finally purchase the proper version of GT6.

It's a worse-case scenario, yes - but my point was mostly that, with the PS4 out of the bag now, it's too late to give us the first look at any GT title destined for the PS3. A simultaneous title on both platforms would sell very little on the old system. I see two exceptions to this; one, instead of a GT6 on PS3, give one last blow-out Spec 3.0 GT5 update, with a smattering of new cars and a handful of tracks. Tide people over. The other, more unlikely option; stung by the criticism of long-gestation times, PD will show up at E3 with a PS3 GT6, and pull an Apple, announcing it'll be available in stores within a month, tops. Now, I see that as borderline impossible, since it won't give Sony the time to milk the build-up, but hey, it's an idea ;)

Everybody who has contributed to this thread all shares the same passion, I sometime forget about that, but it doesn't change my point. I can't state that GT turned me into a car enthusiast, but I can say that Gran Turismo brought it into focus.

I think it's an important thing to state sometimes; despite vastly different view points, most of us are here thanks to a common factor 👍

I see your point, but what you are forgetting is that 77 million people could be prospective Cheetos purchasers and while only a (+/- ) 5 million will be buying the gold. Why not sell to both?

If I knew I had the choice...

Indeed. The fact that Kaz himself puts his person in harms way speaks volumes to me on who to trust when it comes to racing video games.

I don't really see how it's related. Sure, he got to where he is in the racing world thanks to GT, but it's his (very fortunate) hobby.

It is more then "happiness"... it's smart business. GT games are huge sellers, why limit your business to just one piece of hardware?

Why not sell on other platforms then, though? In the case of a PS3/PS4 combo, it's likely not worth the extra time and money. I'd wager that if both were to be released simultaneously, the PS3 one wouldn't just be the worst-selling of the full games, it'd sell worse than the PS4 version after the first few months. Just a guess, of course ;).
 
So there is nothing holding them back except possibly pretty much the exact same things that held them back on GT5. Right.

Like GTHD, GTPSP and GT5P you mean? *Shrugs* Heh, depends really. I'm thinking nothing shouldn't be holding them back this time hopefully (HOPEFULLY just in case somebody SAIDS something :grumpy:), but like I said, depends.
 
Interesting how?

And Kazunori Yamauchi and others who work for PD had input on the PS4. Kaz was there since the first PS launched and had a part in designing the controller. EDIT - Pretty sure his role in the creation of the PS4 is much bigger seeing as how GT is the best-selling franchise for the PlayStation. Make it easier on the "creation" side.


AND
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/...vailable_now_for_PlayStation_4_developers.php
It's like the PS4 was made for Gran Turismo. That's what it looks like at least.


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The "interesting how?" need not reply to now that you added that into your post.

I really think GT6 is coming to PS4, but no one can be sure.

As you said, if Kaz had input on the PS4, I bet that PD will be making a game for PS4 (unless they want the PS3 to go out with a bang!:dopey:), instead of making a Gran Turismo 5.5 (IMHO), because they are already getting 99% off the PS3. At least, we know that 1 driving game will be already there - Driveclub. We should wait for this year's E3 to shed some light on this topic.

And yeah, the PS4 has some interesting functionalities. *EVIL DOCTOR ON* Perhaps SpeedTree could be used to make trees on Deep Forest move. And distract players even more! Hahahahaha!!!!!*EVIL DOCTOR OFF*
 
And if they make multi-platform game would we be able to get on the same server with PS4 and will be able to trade with PS4. Will the quality look the same? You gotta think about that. Will will have same graphics and other functions.
 
And if they make multi-platform game would we be able to get on the same server with PS4 and will be able to trade with PS4. Will the quality look the same? You gotta think about that. Will will have same graphics and other functions.

The graphics could be based of the same data, with resolution different for each platform
 
And if they make multi-platform game would we be able to get on the same server with PS4 and will be able to trade with PS4. Will the quality look the same? You gotta think about that. Will will have same graphics and other functions.

The graphics could be based of the same data, with resolution different for each platform

One thing that wouldn't work though is if a PS4 version could handle more cars on the track than a PS3 version. But maybe that's a trade-off they would be ready to accept in order to get a multi-generation game.

Question: Does anyone know of any game that has been released for two different console generations? If that has never happened before, that is something to take into the equation when thinking about the possibility and probability that it will happen to GT6. I mean, if it has never happened before, statistics gives it a chance to 0:1 that it will happen with GT6. Statistics isn't everything, but it can often provide a good hint.
 
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One thing that wouldn't work though is if a PS4 version could handle more cars on the track than a PS3 version. But maybe that's a trade-off they would be ready to accept in order to get a multi-generation game.

Question: Does anyone know of any game that has been released for two different console generations? If that has never happened before, that is something to take into the equation when thinking about the possibility and probability that it will happen to GT6. I mean, if it has never happened before, statistics gives it a chance to 0:1 that it will happen with GT6. Statistics isn't everything, but it can often provide a good hint.

Sonic unleashed was released via ps2, ps3, 360, wii. 2K8-12 has been released for ps2, 360, ps3, wii with all of them with online mode. But servers are down for ps2. There are more out there but naming a few basic ones.
 
Quite a few third party games but in terms of first party, AAA games you have God Of War 2 and a Zelda game. That's about it.
 
I still think GT6 would be better off on the PS4 since GT5 struggled on the PS3 in a few areas such as loading times, but whatever. If it comes on the PS3, I won't complain. I'll just make the best of it.
 
I am still thinking that GT6 is coming for PS4.

The new console will be released this very same year. GT6 wasn´t even mentioned as of yet and I think they are "saving" it for E3 and maybe not.

They are so quiet about it that a PS3 release for me is not logic. As simple as that.

Also we all know they are working in a GT game. If they keep modelling tracks and cars it can be for the current game that they are working on right now. And that is GT6.

Logic just that. Like it or not. But I can be wrong since Murphy laws can be applied too.
 
I really think GT6 is coming to PS4, but no one can be sure.

As you said, if Kaz had input on the PS4, I bet that PD will be making a game for PS4 (unless they want the PS3 to go out with a bang!:dopey:), instead of making a Gran Turismo 5.5 (IMHO), because they are already getting 99% off the PS3. At least, we know that 1 driving game will be already there - Driveclub. We should wait for this year's E3 to shed some light on this topic.

And yeah, the PS4 has some interesting functionalities. *EVIL DOCTOR ON* Perhaps SpeedTree could be used to make trees on Deep Forest move. And distract players even more! Hahahahaha!!!!!*EVIL DOCTOR OFF*
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I concur :D with everything you said. I feel they're making GT6 for the PS3 definitely. I'm hopeful that it'll be for the PS4 too; I'm not so confident about that though. Around 2.5 years ago PD started making GT6. ONE of the problems GT5 ran into was that they started making it before they knew what the final specs/capabilities of the PS3 were. They had to have known to avoid that dilemma this time around if in fact it was too early to start making GT6 specifically for the PS4.
 
BF4 according to rumors would be multi platform as well, PC, PS3 and PS4, if they can do it ( DICE + EA ), PD + Sony can do it too.

There are some that think the simple line of code "Port to: insert platform name" is all that is needed to do a dual release, triple, or even a PS2, PS3, PS4, 360, PC, Mac, Nintendo WII 2, DS3d, iPhone 5, pre iPhone 5, iPad, android phones and tablets, and Windows 8. Other developers have discovered this secret line of code, but SONY nor PD nor ANY other SONY owned developer has.

E3 needs to be sooner. The end of June is too freaking far into the year for the gaming industry's key convention.
 
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Quite a few third party games but in terms of first party, AAA games you have God Of War 2 and a Zelda game. That's about it.

I don't remember God of War 2 releasing on the PS3 when it first came out, it didn't show up until almost 2 years later.
 
I don't remember God of War 2 releasing on the PS3 when it first came out, it didn't show up until almost 2 years later.

Sorry mixed things up there. GOW2 is the only example of a large first party game appearing on the old console once the new one is out and it's the Zelda game that's the only example of a AAA game released on both old and new platforms.
 
Perhaps. Fight fire with fire and all that? ;)

Preferably not, but sometimes, it is necessary...especially when some of what he was saying had nothing to do with this thread.

I personally find it far more reasonable that PD would be focusing their efforts on one or the other.

You may be correct, and if this theory that you and others share is, I will admit my error, albeit with a smile. Afterall when we here news on GT6, I am positive everyone will have a grin to a degree.

You mentioned the sales, I simply followed the logic provided.

The old safety net as it were, eh?

A GT6 shown on the PS3 at E3, surrounded by the massive blitz that will be PS4 title showings, would be lost in the static.

That is an excellent point, but on the flip side of you coin, can you imagine the hype if GT6 was offered to everyone? Remember not many people in the current global financial situation are going to be able to shell out $500 for a new system and buy the game. However, $60 bucks for a new GT game is more than manageable for nearly all.

Speaking personally, as of right now, GT6 isn't a day one purchase for me regardless of system, but based on what we see from PD this year, obviously this can change.

That is your choice and I respect that, but something tells me your mind will be changed.:)

A simultaneous title on both platforms would sell very little on the old system. I see two exceptions to this; one, instead of a GT6 on PS3, give one last blow-out Spec 3.0 GT5 update, with a smattering of new cars and a handful of tracks. Tide people over.

If GT6 is going to be on the PS4, I wouldn't mind this option at all. Personally speaking, if GT6 is headed to the PS4, I expect a wait because I don't see Drive Club being forced to deal with GT which would mean that GT6 would be released sometime at or around 2014. Perhaps a GT 2013 edition with Spec 3.0 would be the answer.

I don't really see how it's related. Sure, he got to where he is in the racing world thanks to GT, but it's his (very fortunate) hobby.

I am sure you must. Gran Turismo is video game even though it borders on the SIM side of things. Knowing this and factoring in that the man behind the series actually races professionally, he should be considered knowledged in his field and trusted. It's not fanboyism, it's a simple deduction of facts.

When people need a house designed and construction documents produced, do they go a hire a clerk at Wal-Mart? No, of course not, they come and see me. :sly:

I'd wager that if both were to be released simultaneously, the PS3 one wouldn't just be the worst-selling of the full games, it'd sell worse than the PS4 version after the first few months. Just a guess, of course ;).

Even if GT6 was a low selling game as compared to 1-5, the PS4 version of GT6 would more then pick up the slack.

Either way, I am good with GT6 no matter what happens.
 
Kaz participates in one or two events a year at an intermediate level. He is not an expert in the field of motor racing any more than Dan Greenawalt is.
 
Kaz participates in one or two events a year at an intermediate level. He is not an expert in the field of motor racing any more than Dan Greenawalt is.

I didn't know Dan Greenawalt drove a race car. You can attempt to discredit that fact all you want but the truth remains this - Kaz has participated in the 'Ring 24HR (for example) more then once.

That fact alone puts him a very select crowd.
 
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