Gran Turismo 7 Update Coming April 7

[Sasek]

So, regardless of the difficulty level set in the options, the rewards are the same? They should give some percentage reward when the settings are set to hard difficulty. They mentioned something about it. Or it is supposed to be in the next patch?

There are changes that pleased me, and of course the payouts too, but there are some more important ones like physics improvements, AI, sound, graphics and others. Nice addition. Good job PD.

 

[Goshin2568]

The whole point of the game is to win money to buy more car to race them, rinse and repeat. I bought a game with 400+ cars and I want to have a chance to drive all of the ones I like. The game has a massive checklist tracking your car collection. At the very least I'd like to not lose money by winning a race. I know that might seem crazy. If I want to do, say a 5 lap race at La Sarthe, I'm better off doing it via custom races, as opposed to the special-made mission race.

I mean yes, I agree that if that's the way you want to play then you should be able to do that. Yes, the payouts should be better.


But I guess the point I'm getting at is, at the root of it everything you want to do in the game is because it's fun somewhere down the line right? You want more credits to buy more cars, because racing new cars is fun?


But if racing new cars is fun, and that mission is fun also (which is what you said), then why will you do one but not the other? They're both motivated by fun right?

 

[Scaff]

Missions, yes, but there are also normal races with increased monetary values, plus the one-time rewards for the track experiences, that should make a very large amount of credits possible in a short time, I think a lot should be possible with it until the next patch. I can't go online yet, but from everything I've read so far there are enough credits to earn right now.

It's an improvement, but if it is 'one and done' it makes zero sense and gives those events limited replay value.

I have checked and at least they do have pay-outs right down the grid, so I hope that they have allowed repeat pay-outs despite being in Missions. Only one way to find out.

 

[xMAXIx79]

for now i have only 1 Target ... the F1 GTR ASAP

 

[Samus]

It's an improvement, but if it is 'one and done' it makes zero sense and gives those events limited replay value.

I have checked and at least they do have pay-outs right down the grid, so I hope that they have allowed repeat pay-outs despite being in Missions. Only one way to find out.

Exactly, it's not so much the lack of payout to earn credits and moreso that the desire to replay them is severely diminished. Who is going to do a one hour race against the ropey AI, presumably set as a catch up of about 5 minutes, to earn absolutely nothing?

Why add races that are basically a one and done affair? Let's hope they aren't.

 

[JC_Dude]

I mean yes, I agree that if that's the way you want to play then you should be able to do that. Yes, the payouts should be better.


But I guess the point I'm getting at is, at the root of it everything you want to do in the game is because it's fun somewhere down the line right? You want more credits to buy more cars, because racing new cars is fun?


But if racing new cars is fun, and that mission is fun also (which is what you said), then why will you do one but not the other? They're both motivated by fun right?

A large portion of the fun in a GT game is the progression, modding, discovering new cars, etc. All of which require credits and lots of them. Plus, if you want to be competitive in Sport mode you need to have credits to buy meta cars. This is why you need events that pay out a decent amount.

If I just wanted to drive/race cars around a track I'd buy a decent PC and load up Assetto Corsa with mods. If that was the case I see no reason to play a game that locks access to cars behind credits.

 

[Supaboost]

You filthy unthinking PD apologist. How dare you suggest the raging should stop. We need to rage more. Because.

Still a grind fest broken economy.

A damn F1 still best case a 12 hour grind.

naah there seem better as some did races with 27 minutes for 727k and 34 minutes for 825k.
Considering the update droped few hours ago so there still something to discover

So still less then pre nerf fishermans ranch lmao

I'm aware of what it means, if you win those races, that's over CR.8M... be greatfull

For what, curreny legend dealership has 57 million worth of cars. Burn threw that and its the same grind fest it was.

 

[Randy Winston]

I'm in love again. This feels like the Gran Turismo I grew up with

 

[xMAXIx79]

We'll see, I try as often as possible to see the glass half full instead of half empty.

Maybe at some point they will always pay out the full bonus for track experience if you beat your own gold time.. that would be a brilliant incentive to keep doing it and getting better!

 

[Sasek]

I‘m rich now 😂

We both rich Like 8-10 mln boost instantly from circuit experience for me

 

[maetorn]

now it's time to find which race is the best time/reward for grinding. it looks like "World Touring Car 600 - Tokyo Expressway 12 Lap" which gives 500k cr for one race, there is no wall penalty for this track so you can do a clean race much easily, adds to a total 750k around 25 mins(12 laps average lap time 2.13 for a 600pp car)

 

[Supaboost]

Someone correct me if im wrong.

NO updated current replayable race payouts beat pre nerf fishermans ranch which did 97.5k for about 3 minutes.

 

[JC_Dude]

Someone correct me if im wrong.

NO updated current replayable race payouts beat pre nerf fishermans ranch which did 97.5k for about 3 minutes.

That is correct. And you're right in saying it's still a grind economy. Can't be otherwise if we only have about 60 events in world ciurcuis. We should have 200+ and basically never have to repeat anything to get everything in the game.

 

[Samus]

The new one hour races aren’t casual Sunday cruises…

How far behind do you start?

 

[Sasek]

How far behind do you start?

If nothing has changed in race payouts depending on the difficulty level set in the options, doing at easy is the Sunday Cruise.

 

[Tekku]

Just cashed in all circuit experiences and it landed on roughly 48 million.

 

[rb26dettNUR]

We'll see, I try as often as possible to see the glass half full instead of half empty.

Maybe at some point they will always pay out the full bonus for track experience if you beat your own gold time.. that would be a brilliant incentive to keep doing it and getting better!

Interesting approach.
I've always really enjoyed doing the missions and licenses. I have always tried to achieve gold at least as far as I was able.
A repeated payment of the missions while beating your own records would be an additional tool to deal very intensively with the routes.

But if you have everything on gold today, the modes are absolutely meaningless, which is a shame.
Since you don't even need the licenses to take part in certain races (which I think is a pity, but of course it massively increases accessibility), another aspect of the whole thing is missing here.

 

[hakk]

That is correct. And you're right in saying it's still a grind economy. Can't be otherwise if we only have about 60 events in world ciurcuis. We should have 200+ and basically never have to repeat anything to get everything in the game.

I would wait to see what the 3 new races produce. If I have all the data correctly, then with clean race bonus the Tokyo one is 825k. If it takes less than half an hour, it will be more than 1,650k, which goes close to the old fisherman payout.

 

[Samus]

If nothing has changed in race payouts depending on the difficulty level set in the options, doing at easy is the Sunday Cruise.

Probably, I'm just curious how far behind they start you. If it's 40 seconds in a 5 lap race, I dread to think how big your handicap is in an hour race.

 

[Nasadus]

Does anyone know whether they fixed the 2P split screen issue, whereby the 2nd player couldn't turn off any of the assists? I don't see it mentioned in the change log, but i'm hopeful that it's included in the "Various other issues have been addressed."

 

[VXR]

Blimey, sounds like it's gone from being near bankrupt to Croesus in one swift move!

 

[pedronfdsantos]

From the Gran Turismo blog:

Finally, we also want to take the opportunity to lay out some of the near-term updates we are working on. We can’t confirm an exact date or specifics yet, but will give advance notice via www.gran-turismo.com.

• ....
• Make it so cars can be sold.

Thank You.

 

[Goshin2568]

A large portion of the fun in a GT game is the progression, modding, discovering new cars, etc. All of which require credits and lots of them. Plus, if you want to be competitive in Sport mode you need to have credits to buy meta cars. This is why you need events that pay out a decent amount.

If I just wanted to drive/race cars around a track I'd buy a decent PC and load up Assetto Corsa with mods. If that was the case I see no reason to play a game that locks access to cars behind credits.

I mean I don't want to keep repeating the same point, but I feel like you still aren't understanding what I'm getting at.


Firstly, I agree. All of those things you mentioned are fun. All of them require credits. Therefore, events should pay out better so that players will have more credits. I agree will all of that. I'm not defending low payouts.

What I'm asking is, what determines what "types of fun" (for lack of a better term) are worth it to you? Yes, discovering new cars or modding a car you have are fun, as you said. But, that tsukuba mission race, in your own words, is ALSO fun. So why is one fun activity worth doing for you but another isn't?

 

[Ryan Dungey]

30min world touring car 700 on Le Mans got me 825k with clean race

 

[Lion-Face]

Those events are so laughable. You need to buy wet tyres for them, which costs a few times more than the payouts. It's a shame, because the events themselves are fun, but what's the point?

The payout for winning the Missions races is Gold + Silver + Bronze prize money, so it is 10k total, not 5k. Comfort tires work just fine, you can use a stock car you won in one of the many cafe menu's and win the race without costing a single credit.

Plus, if you want to be competitive in Sport mode you need to have credits to buy meta cars. This is why you need events that pay out a decent amount.

The meta cars are all relatively cheap and can be obtained within an hour or so of playing the game normally even before this latest update.

 

[brockie]

Just read the patch notes and I’ve at least 15 circuit experience to claim! This is really good news to wake up to!

Just claimed 2.2m in a few mins and the next 4 days will dedicated to doing the remaining and the 1hr races!

 

[GTboyz]

30min world touring car 700 on Le Mans got me 825k with clean race

What car did you use ?

 

[xMAXIx79]

Interesting approach.
I've always really enjoyed doing the missions and licenses. I have always tried to achieve gold at least as far as I was able.
A repeated payment of the missions while beating your own records would be an additional tool to deal very intensively with the routes.

But if you have everything on gold today, the modes are absolutely meaningless, which is a shame.
Since you don't even need the licenses to take part in certain races (which I think is a pity, but of course it massively increases accessibility), another aspect of the whole thing is missing here.

I'm also tempted to "beat" my friends when they have better times somewhere with the licenses or missions (except for the fact that I'm saving fuel.. I drive a hybrid in RL because I save enough) that has always given me an incentive.

If you got a better bonus for improvements, that would of course be great and I would much rather have to grind races (which I don't do, because everything is found over time anyway, so I can't understand some people here who are always dissatisfied ).

 

[Ryan Dungey]

What car did you use ?

R32 GTR also bring wets along as you can get rain in the race

 

[Pinzoski]

I doubt it, but let's see if custom races get improved despite not being mentioned?

It's really hard to "make my own fun" as people keep suggesting when I need to buy cars to do that, and the game doesn't make the fun custom races a viable way to keep doing that.

1 AM to 3 AM

I’d ask for being able to Save custom races “templates”.. even being able to change car without having to go out to the map. Imagine testing cars in Nordschleife