Gran Turismo 7 Update Coming April 7

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I mean I don't want to keep repeating the same point, but I feel like you still aren't understanding what I'm getting at.


Firstly, I agree. All of those things you mentioned are fun. All of them require credits. Therefore, events should pay out better so that players will have more credits. I agree will all of that. I'm not defending low payouts.

What I'm asking is, what determines what "types of fun" (for lack of a better term) are worth it to you? Yes, discovering new cars or modding a car you have are fun, as you said. But, that tsukuba mission race, in your own words, is ALSO fun. So why is one fun activity worth doing for you but another isn't?
Probably because there are other events that are just as if not more fun from the driving perspective but are more rewarding. Again, if you want to drive a 30 minute endurace around Tsukuba, just load up a custom race and you'll be better off.
The payout for winning the Missions races is Gold + Silver + Bronze prize money, so it is 10k total, not 5k. Comfort tires work just fine, you can use a stock car you won in one of the many cafe menu's and win the race without costing a single credit.
Good luck using comfort tyres in the 30 minutes HSR and 24min Le Mans events.

The meta cars are all relatively cheap and can be obtained within an hour or so of playing the game normally even before this latest update.
The meta car for one of the first sets of daily races was a 1 mil VGT car. Not the end of the world to do it once, but there are 3 daily races at a time and they rotate weekly. Worst-case scenario you'd need 3 mil every week, plus however much it takes to tune them.
 
We both rich :D Like 8-10 mln boost instantly from circuit experience for me :D
Sounds like I’ve got a ridiculous amount of credits to claim - I’ve done all circuit experiences (except Le Mans as I actually haven’t unlocked it yet but I’m on Menu Book 37 or 38 so I’m close). Might actually be able to buy some more legend cars for once (only bought 1 - the Nissan Skyline HT 2000GT-R (KPGC10) ‘70).
 
The Human Comedy icon with that historic French island in the background is perhaps the most random randomness I’ve ever seen.

Even though I agree with you in that the game needs more content, there’s probably more urgent matters to tackle. I see this as a bonus. They could have easily take the lowest effort road and didn’t add any races this patch.

Still, I wish there was more.

Eh, they added the new mission strand. They probably wouldn’t have done this if they were consumed by urgent matters.
 
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Probably the new WTC 600 at Tokyo Expressway.
How do I find this race? It is not in my WTC 600 championship.

If anyone has found it yet, which version of Tokyo is it? I particularly enjoy drifting around the containers, clipping 4 apexes and slingshotting out down the straight! Would be more than happy to nail that particular set of corners 12 times in a row!
 
Didn't they also update the roulette spin animations? Random thing to change, but okay...
 
It's not like PD only has 10 staff members. There are hundreds, surely one of them could dedicate a few hours to adding events?
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And again, we know they have events sat there ready to go. This drip feeding is a choice, not a time/labour limitation.

You’re assuming there’s one team just sitting there doing nothing. These things are not just adding one line to the database as some of you are suggesting and after being implemented they need to be tested. My guess is it was not a priority and I can understand why.
 
Didn't they also update the roulette spin animations? Random thing to change, but okay...
Yes. Despite all of the different credits that appeared (5 gold bars on a 1 star?) I still only got 5k.

I have a feeling not all of those are even obtainable from a 1 star ticket.
 
So people that completed all Circuit Experience got the better end of the stick with the initial prize money before this patch? I didn't do any thinking that we'd lose our ability to claim the new awards.
 
I would wait to see what the 3 new races produce. If I have all the data correctly, then with clean race bonus the Tokyo one is 825k. If it takes less than half an hour, it will be more than 1,650k, which goes close to the old fisherman payout.
Sure, gets close, but does not match or exceed that. And if you remember, complaints about low payouts started before 1.08 made them ridiculous. It still takes over 10 hours to buy one car in some cases.

I feel like I'm a tape recorder on repeat, but it all comes down to how few events we have. With a substantial, 200+ race career we could have a solid 100 hours of classic GT, with lower payouts that encourage re-using lower class cars, upgrading and tweaking them, followed by some difficult, super-high paying events to make the end game sensible. Hell, with so many events you'd naturally accumulate a large amount of credits just by going through them, so there wouldn't be much need for grinding.
 
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What confuses me is the payouts of the 3 new races. It is not aligned with other races, making them (probably) the de facto races to grind from now on. Check the below for example, 140% more distance gives 587.5% more credits!!!

World Touring Car 600 - Tokyo Expressway 5 Lap40,00080,000
World Touring Car 600 - Tokyo Expressway 12 LapN/A550,000

But let's not make a fuss about it! It clearly is for our benefit!

Edit: Unless it is different layout of the track. But still...
Call me dumb but please don't ,in wtc600 all I can see are the 3 races no Tokyo race.Am I looking in the wrong place?I entered a race and there is still just 3.
 
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You’re assuming there’s one team just sitting there doing nothing. These things are not just adding one line to the database as some of you are suggesting and after being implemented they need to be tested. My guess is it was not a priority and I can understand why.
Whilst I haven't worked on video games I have worked on plenty of software that is dynamic and powered from a database, mainly dynamic websites. You have a backend UI to add the data and they immediately appear in the frontend. You don't need to test every single thing you enter, the testing you did on the backend UI and related codebase does that. It really is very simple to add a new item or event or whatever it may be, it's basic data entry adding the parameters of the race. You have to double check you've entered everything correctly, but that hardly constitutes testing, and again, the backend is coded to make sure errors like 5000hp limit instead of 500hp isn't possible to enter.

Think about it, do we need to test every custom event we make? No, because they already made sure the event creation tool is functioning correctly. If we can do that, they can do it with their own backend tools.

Given their size it's not an unreasonable assumption that there is someone whose sole job, or one of a few jobs, is creating events. Again, it's not like there are only ten of them so one person is doing AI coding, adding events and car modelling. Everyone has their role.

Also, yet again, we know they have events they're holding back. It doesn't take a month to validate those events are working. They're keeping them back on purpose, to drip feed them.

 
Are the lobbies still broken? Do you still need to shut down the lobby and re-open it just to change the track? (Or any other settings)

No mention of it in the patch notes...
 
Yes. Despite all of the different credits that appeared (5 gold bars on a 1 star?) I still only got 5k.
I am able to get 5k from a 4 stars so... I hope they updated it for the better.
Call me dumb but please don't ,in wtc600 all I can see are the 3 races no Tokyo race.Am I looking in the wrong place?I entered a race and there is still just 3.
I see it, no problem.
 
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Tried the Le Mans race and it started pouring rain 10 seconds into the beginning of the 3rd lap. The car became undriveable halfway through the lap before I could make it to the pits. The rain gauge passed 2 bars in a little over a minute. So um how is this realistic or fun again?
 
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And people still found a way to complain about that. I’m genuinely curious to know what would make you happy and in what time frame?

You missed my point completely. The new missions are great, but I used their inclusion in the update as a counterargument to you saying that we probably only got three new World Circuit events because PD have had more urgent matters to attend to.

My point? Surely they could have added more than a meagre three circuit events if they also had the time to add a whole new mission strand.
 
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Whilst I haven't worked on video games I have worked on plenty of software that is dynamic and powered from a database, mainly dynamic websites. You have a backend UI to add the data and they immediately appear in the frontend. You don't need to test every single thing you enter, the testing you did on the backend UI and related codebase does that. It really is very simple to add a new item or event or whatever it may be, it's basic data entry adding the parameters of the race. You have to double check you've entered everything correctly, but that hardly constitutes testing, and again, the backend is coded to make sure errors like 5000hp limit instead of 500hp isn't possible to enter.

Think about it, do we need to test every custom event we make? No, because they already made sure the event creation tool is functioning correctly. If we can do that, they can do it with their own backend tools.

Given their size it's not an unreasonable assumption that there is someone whose sole job, or one of a few jobs, is creating events. Again, it's not like there are only ten of them so one person is doing AI coding, adding events and car modelling. Everyone has their role.

Also, yet again, we know they have events they're holding back. It doesn't take a month to validate those events are working. They're keeping them back on purpose, to drip feed them.


Of course they will add events on a schedule. They need to keep players interested and invested. They tackled the main issue, the rewards. Not my main issue, that would be content and I preferred they prioritised this instead but I can understand why they didn’t.

If you work on software development I’m sure you had cases where features that were available were not deployed in some hotfix but rather delayed to a more feature content patch.
 
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