GT7 Daily Race Discussion
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- Grand_Slammin
Red Bull wasn’t bad and I didn’t do Daytona, but every other race I’ve been in has been a bloodbath in the B lobbies. Even the mixed A lobbies have been bad. Is every single race you guys are in rife with rammers? The people asking for the original penalty system again - are you sure the cycle won't start anew?
Yes. And yes. I’d rather be accidentally penalized with half a second when someone hits me than thirty seconds and lost pace. I’m not doing the hitting but I’m paying the consequences. Not once, not a few times, but probably at least half my races. I don’t think I’m the only one.
I’ve not once touched a wall without at least wheel damage for thirty seconds. It’s a bit much. I like the idea of consequential damage, but when I’m in the receiving end of a dirty punt and they roll off without even a penalty, multiple times in every circuit since 1.20, it irks me. I honestly think the penalties, even when overdone, were a better solution. The wall damage was done only to stop wall riders in order to protect the integrity of their World Series races. The way it’s applied in all races now is a gross over correction. At least in the races I’ve been in.
Your mileage obviously varies, so I’m not saying you’re wrong. But I don’t think most of us are exaggerations either. At least I’m not. I had to quit the A race a couple weeks ago because my safety rating took a huge dive to SR B because of other people’s horribly aggressive driving.
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- Canada
We've definitely had different experiences. I'm in low A in the Americas. I've been victimized from time to time but nowhere near so often I find it too frustrating. Then again, I won't touch the Gr4 races with a ten foot pole. Mostly because it doesn't seem even close to balanced and I have no interest in using the same car every single week, not to mention single livery races irk me.
I like the damage and I also like penalties. What I don't like is the 1.5 second barrier contact penalty. I had a race at Daytona where someone forgot to brake behind me at the chicane on the first lap and sent me flying. I got horrible damage plus a 1.5 second penalty and that obviously makes no sense.
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- Grand_Slammin
Ugh! I wish they’d make up their mind on these! Honestly, I don’t think the damage was intended to take the place of penalties, merely prevent cheaters. So now, out of an unnecessary overcorrection, we’re all getting caught in this mess instead of the few problem people. All they have to do is time the length of wall contact and apply a penalty. Keep the penalties and add one new one for the cheaters. Instead people like me are getting hammered with all this damage, yet the violators are STILL not getting penalized enough to dissuade their behavior.
PD is paying too much attention to the wrong people. They’re more worried about preventing a few cheaters and people who grind races for credits rather than rewarding good driving. It’s kinda pathetic.
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Got #70 on the primary account. Was kinda lucky as the guy behind me had an issue early and gave me like a two second lead. A lead that dwindled away to about .500" by the end because I have a bad habit of under-driving/being overly safe when there's a decent lead and squandering it away to almost nothing.
Regardless, held on.
Next I think will be the Z4.
Regardless, held on.
Awesome! I can imagine the Evo is pretty good. So many good cars here. I did give the Viper a go for a few laps and got it into the 51.9s. It definitely has potential. Same with the Mazda RX Vision. Also tried out the Supra GT500 which was a little harder to drive as the boost just kicks so it's not as stable out of corners.
Next I think will be the Z4.
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Z4 won't work, TBH since the physics change a few updates back the Supra does everything the Z4 does but with more top end.
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- ZFS_Barron
I shouldn't try and predict how good any of these will be but....lol, what the heck might as well.
Race A looks quite good, never thought I'd say that, but from previous races at Watkins may be a punt fest, but that's to be expected from a Race A. Race B, man thats gonna be one of the longest Race B's ever, might be over 10 mins. The GTR will be the best car i think, so that makes it kinda appealing to me, I'm not great round Spa but maybe next week is my week to change that.
Race C....FML almost impossible to pass anywhere. I'm purely guessing but the only way you will make up any places is by being a boss at saving fuel. The only chink of light that makes this race appealing is it will probably be the MR cars will be the best and they are probably the drivetrain I'm worst at so at the very least I'll do some TT and see how i get on.
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- TechnoIsLove
So I finally set up a wheel rig using the G29. Wow, what a difference in steering precision and pedal feel 🎉🎉
After an hour of practice, I'm still almost 1.5 seconds slower than my qualy time for Race B but I know it's a process.
For the wheel players, have 2 questions, in particular for this specific track.
1 - In turn 1, do you guys have to really turn the steering a lot? I'm losing a lot of time having to go to almost full lock! Losing a lot of time gently waiting to straighten the car too as can't really accelerate until it's almost straightened.
Is it possible to reduce the rotation settings of the wheel?
2 - Struggling with the paddles to shift mid corner since wheel is turned. Do you find it best to shift before the turns or after, on exit? General question btw!
Also, catching a drift is a lot harder but more realistic I guess.
Thank you 🙂
After an hour of practice, I'm still almost 1.5 seconds slower than my qualy time for Race B but I know it's a process.
For the wheel players, have 2 questions, in particular for this specific track.
1 - In turn 1, do you guys have to really turn the steering a lot? I'm losing a lot of time having to go to almost full lock! Losing a lot of time gently waiting to straighten the car too as can't really accelerate until it's almost straightened.
Is it possible to reduce the rotation settings of the wheel?
2 - Struggling with the paddles to shift mid corner since wheel is turned. Do you find it best to shift before the turns or after, on exit? General question btw!
Also, catching a drift is a lot harder but more realistic I guess.
Thank you 🙂
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Welcome to the G29 club!
1) I don't know the exact amount of steering input required off the top of my head, but it shouldn't be full lock. Keep an eye on your HUD... when the little red dot bottoms out (to the right in this case) your steering is maxed out. Thus, adding more degrees into the wheel does nothing. Unfortunately, there aren't any settings on the G29 to make the steering more sensitive. But, again, just because you're turning the wheel more doesn't mean the game is interpreting that as more steering input.
2) Due to the above, I don't even have to take a hand off the wheel... so even if my right hand is say at the 7 o'clock position (just guessing there as I am not in front of my rig at the moment) I can still upshift without an issue.
And yea, everyone thinks wheel users have an advantage - and generally I'd agree - but going through slow, tight turns as well as catching the car when the rear breaks lose is definitely easier for controller users.
The Z4 is one of a few Gr3 cars I've yet to win a race with. This track might be a good shot.
The Mazda RX, Supra GT500, and AMG 2011 are the others. The Mazda is decent and I could've gotten it twice yesterday but was hit in both races while leading. The AMG 11 is probably garbage. Sometimes it's fun to pick the beta car and see how well one can compete with it. Sometimes it goes really well... other times it's a dumpster fire.
If C ends up being a fuel saver, the Porsche or BRZ will likely be the META. Fuel save and no stop. We've seen it before. Qualify in the Jag (for example) and race in the BRZ.
I do hope there is at least a little bit of strategy... but at least we've not seen this combo yet (I don't think).
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- TechnoIsLove
Welcome to the G29 club!
1) I don't know the exact amount of steering input required off the top of my head, but it shouldn't be full lock. Keep an eye on your HUD... when the little red dot bottoms out (to the right in this case) your steering is maxed out. Thus, adding more degrees into the wheel does nothing. Unfortunately, there aren't any settings on the G29 to make the steering more sensitive. But, again, just because you're turning the wheel more doesn't mean the game is interpreting that as more steering input.
2) Due to the above, I don't even have to take a hand off the wheel... so even if my right hand is say at the 7 o'clock position (just guessing there as I am not in front of my rig at the moment) I can still upshift without an issue.
And yea, everyone thinks wheel users have an advantage - and generally I'd agree - but going through slow, tight turns as well as catching the car when the rear breaks lose is definitely easier for controller users.
The Z4 is one of a few Gr3 cars I've yet to win a race with. This track might be a good shot.
The Mazda RX, Supra GT500, and AMG 2011 are the others. The Mazda is decent and I could've gotten it twice yesterday but was hit in both races while leading. The AMG 11 is probably garbage. Sometimes it's fun to pick the beta car and see how well one can compete with it. Sometimes it goes really well... other times it's a dumpster fire.
If C ends up being a fuel saver, the Porsche or BRZ will likely be the META. Fuel save and no stop. We've seen it before. Qualify in the Jag (for example) and race in the BRZ.
I do hope there is at least a little bit of strategy... but at least we've not seen this combo yet (I don't think).
Mate, I owe you! That bloody red dot was the cause of my misery 🤣 Not knowing that when it's at the edge it means that no more rotation needed 😂
I'm now at 0.4 slower than best controller lap on a consistent basis. I think I need to work on braking points and pressure but happy so far 🙂
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- ILLEAGLE_34
Just for fun try running like 10+ laps of race c qualifying or the time trial challenge with the controller sensitivity set at 0 then immediately run another 10+ with controller sensitivity set to 10. You may notice a difference. I also use FFB 2-3 and ffs usually 1-2 but I keep experimenting. Have you calibrate your pedal’s yet ?
Adjust the brake travel to your personal preference helps a lot. As far as the red dot goes there some additional rotation available even when the dot is maxed out and in cockpit when the wheel visually stops turning the car will turn even tighter.
Do very slow circles in cockpit view and you should be able to see what I’m talking about. 🍻
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- TechnoIsLove
I was finding the resistance quite weird (brake pedal) so I set the max to just 25% travel and it's working great, I can trail lightly and quickly get on the fast pedal now.
The FF is weird as it goes nuts in fast straights... I drive a very fast car in real life and if the steering wobbled like that I'd be taking the rack off for inspection 😂 I set both to 6/6 which seems to be a good balance.
Wish I could play with the steering force and sensitivity a bit to make it stronger but I know it's just until I get used to things.
Overall, very happy and excited and much more immersive 🙂 Thanks for your tips sir!
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- Spain
Well, quite the turnaround for Race A... Next week we'll have a genuine monster of a sports car to fling around!
Reminds me of the Aston Martin V8 Vantage at Goodwood, should be huge fun (unless BoP for some reason kills it).
Casual rules aside, this is what Gran Turismo online should be about.
Reminds me of the Aston Martin V8 Vantage at Goodwood, should be huge fun (unless BoP for some reason kills it).
Casual rules aside, this is what Gran Turismo online should be about.
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Admittedly, I was none too pleased to see Sardegna back on the track list (and I stand by that to a certain degree), but I've had a blast on B this week (on the 2 account). You just have to start near the front and it should - for the most part - be a good time.
Had some really great races. And got wins today which basically knocks off my list of Gr3 cars I wanted to win with. Basically all of them except some of the stupid VGTs (like the Peugeot, VW, Suzuki) and duplicates (RX Vision, Audis, etc.). They include: Alfa, 11 M3, Atenza, RCZ, Ferrari, Citroen, Audi, Z4, Supra GT500, Mazda RX, and AMG SLS 2011.
Obviously the Porsche was the META, but there are so many other cars that can at least hold thier own. Great to see for a change.
So this track/race will hold a special place in my heart whether it's original or not.
Had some really great races. And got wins today which basically knocks off my list of Gr3 cars I wanted to win with. Basically all of them except some of the stupid VGTs (like the Peugeot, VW, Suzuki) and duplicates (RX Vision, Audis, etc.). They include: Alfa, 11 M3, Atenza, RCZ, Ferrari, Citroen, Audi, Z4, Supra GT500, Mazda RX, and AMG SLS 2011.
Obviously the Porsche was the META, but there are so many other cars that can at least hold thier own. Great to see for a change.
So this track/race will hold a special place in my heart whether it's original or not.
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Okay update time, just for Race B though. Did some open practice lobbies. Waaaaaay more cars are useable than i expected, people were winning races, setting good times in GTR, WRX, 458, 911, Viper, Vantage etc.....lobbies were mixture of A - C rated drivers, best times were about 2.31 (done in 458 & GTR.....and not by me)
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I too have just made the switch to a wheel on gt7. Made this during the week while I was off work with flu. Best thing I did!! Knocked 1 second off my qualifying time in race C within 3 laps of trying 🙈🙈 Today I went from D/S to B/S and was having a great evening until the last race. Why do some drivers insist on ramming you out of the way even though you move off the racing line to let them go...boils my p*ss 🤬🤬 And it always seems to be a Spanish driver too!
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Controller sensitivity is just for people who use the pad. It's the other 2 (FFB Sen & FFB Torque) you need to focus on if your using a wheel.
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Finally got a win on the board in GT7 daily races in Race C. Started in 5th on the mediums and kept it pointing in the right direction so after one or two disconnects or spins from the leaders I was only 5 seconds behind the leader when they pitted on lap 6. They got within 0.4s on lap 11 but made a mistake on the Turn 2 chicane and lost 0.7s which was enough for me to hold them off.
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- ILLEAGLE_34
I know that’s what the text says (written by PD)🥴 and I only have experience with the Logitech g29 which only uses PlayStation software when on console. Pc is different. Take my opinion for what it’s worth 🍻 give it a hour on 0 then 10. Same track fast car/ downforce. It’s just different.
For more fun map L3/R3 buttons for brake and throttle. It’s different as well. Idk I could be wrong, it’s happened once before🤙🏽 Thanks for the reply 🍻
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That's not correct.
How you explain it is how it should work in theory, however controller sensitivity does absolutely affect wheel force feedback in GT, even though there is a separate setting for FFB sensitivity.
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Haven't been able to race all week...reasons...until yesterday. Logged on, ran a few quali laps in the beat, entered a race where I was mixed A/B/C rated drivers, and got the FL!!!
By that, I mean ****ing Last. Not only that race, but both races I entered yesterday.
This is not the first time I have stepped away for a week or more, and come back to find I have lost seconds. My QT is at the back of the grid, and I just watch the race walk away. I was clearly behind the curve by Saturday.
By that, I mean ****ing Last. Not only that race, but both races I entered yesterday.
This is not the first time I have stepped away for a week or more, and come back to find I have lost seconds. My QT is at the back of the grid, and I just watch the race walk away. I was clearly behind the curve by Saturday.
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- Grand_Slammin
I took a day, a single day, off of race B and lost nearly two seconds! Tried a few new cars, kept running my beloved Citröen off the road on the last turn, and got beaten badly. Had to switch back to the 911 to stop the bleeding!
There were constant ghosts in all my races yesterday, one or two for the entire race. Is that a connection issue or a server issue? They all had 4 or 5 bars for supposed signal strength.
@Talon16 how do you do that last turn in the Citröen?! You can’t figure it out!
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The last little bit? I don't remember as I've driven a lot of cars. But, I think slight braking for the soft left, off the brakes to straighten the car out, then heavy on the brakes for the last turn... downshift into 2nd for rotation; at the apex upshift into 3rd and give it the beans.
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- hardvibes
- ACR HardVibes
Someone has to explain to me this fake ghosted car thing going on recently. It's so annoying. The cars are semi-transparent but you can collide with them. It's not the same as the "real" ghosted cars getting a penalty or spinning out.
But I don't think it's a connection issue: I just raced against one of those fake ghosted cars OFFLINE, on Spa Clubman 550!!
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Ok, @Bullwinkle here's an okay lap in the Citroen. T1 was a bit slow and I missed the apex on the last turn a bit but you get the idea. Was a 52.1 but if I fixed the two above issues, definitely in the 51s.
Anyway, for what it's worth:
I used 540 degree rotation on my g29. I think the red dot represents max grip. You can turn more once the dot reaches max but you will start to understeer. On a side note, has anyone noticed the water level goes up and down as you move off a dry line to the wet? Has this always been there?
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I stand corrected then. Apologies that was just my understanding of it from what I've read.
