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An exciting evening in my return to Sport Mode. I almost improved my qualifying time but I couldn't string a good together.

Race 1 is a mess and I start in P9. I get an off track penalty after the esses as I took a weird bounce and went wide. I then cause a wreck on the final turn as I clip the inside grass and spin. I do catch up to the pack, but get caught in another wreck with the chaos in the final chicane on the last lap. I finish P12 in the end.

Race 2 and 3 were clean affairs for the quality of driving. Some bumps but still respectful. In started P6 in race 2 and finish P7 after another first lap off track penalty in the same place as race 1. Race 3 has me in P4 to start and that's where I finish. Nothing really happens in both races so nothing out of the ordinary to report.

The first race was rough, but that's to be expected after not racing for a while. I'll be back at it tomorrow and it's been fun to get back online with others.
 
Stilva
An exciting evening in my return to Sport Mode. I almost improved my qualifying time but I couldn't string a good together.

Race 1 is a mess and I start in P9. I get an off track penalty after the esses as I took a weird bounce and went wide. I then cause a wreck on the final turn as I clip the inside grass and spin. I do catch up to the pack, but get caught in another wreck with the chaos in the final chicane on the last lap. I finish P12 in the end.

Race 2 and 3 were clean affairs for the quality of driving. Some bumps but still respectful. In started P6 in race 2 and finish P7 after another first lap off track penalty in the same place as race 1. Race 3 has me in P4 to start and that's where I finish. Nothing really happens in both races so nothing out of the ordinary to report.

The first race was rough, but that's to be expected after not racing for a while. I'll be back at it tomorrow and it's been fun to get back online with others.
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I think we had some races together this evening, seemed to be cleaner than expected out there tonight! 👍

Had some fun races. I'd be doing a whole lot better Dr wise if I'd keep my head in the game and car on the track, though. I do stupid stuff like reflect on how cool a pass is gonna look on the replay and lose sight of finishing the damn race to start with. Another fave is focusing on bumpers and brake lights while blowing past my brake point by a couple car lengths and going to the beach...had one of those tonight. Gotta love gettin' back on track in 1st gear as you watch P15 disappear on the horizon. Was able to claw my way back to P8 for that one at least.

I've tried the 458, Mustang, WRX and Supra but for me the Jag is way more fun to drive. Tons of steering, solid brakes and rotates with ease. Pretty easy to steer with the throttle, too. While I may not get it this time, I'm shootin' for 24's.

I'm a first timer here for racing and am lovin' this track. To me it has a very Nordchleife-lite kinda feel to it with the elevation changes, bumps and closeness of it all. :cheers:
 
GrumpyOldMan
I'm still loving the Citroën, and I can't imagine why more people aren't driving it. Very stable, and also quite fast. (Again, I'm using TCS 2.)
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VR-SORN
From what I recall its not a nice view in VR. That maybe why some dont use it.
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And even without VR it's a horrible cockpit experience, for those of us committed to that view it's pretty much undriveable.

If it's good here that's a bit of a shame but I'll take the immersion over a few tenths every time.

I do wish someone really fast would take the Huracan and see what they can do with it. I can't touch my qualy time in it with any other car, F-Type, 650, GTR - anything - but I'm not quick at all, it would be interesting to see what kind of a time an alien or at least 'half breed' lol could do.
 
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Daily Race B Live Lap Guide in Lancer EVO grp4.
Road Atlanta.
Top 200 in the World not in a META
No assists either like some Lap Guides
Qually Lap currently 1.24.6s

 
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Just had a 3 week break from daily races and came back to my favourite track of Atlanta, tried a few cars and settled on the 650 as the most stable and did a 1.25.044 after an hour of QT.
Ran 1 race Q6 and finished P5, what a great race very clean though out the field and no lagging.
Will back to it tonight.
 
I do have to admit, in spite of some incredibly spectacular 3/4 car crashes, Road Atlanta had me hooked during the whole night session between 1-2.30am last night.

Sure, plenty of people don't understand the dangers of trying to pass at the esses. Sure, plenty of people can't get their heads around taking the final chicane 2x2 and leaving space either side. But blimey if that circuit and car combination isn't damn entertaining!

A couple of minor observations I've made, now that I'm fully accustomed to the ins and outs of the circuit...

Boost to the back of the pack - rolling starts mean that the final positions get a helping hand from gravity (can't imagine how I know about life at the back of the grid 💩). They come in like a steam train approaching Turn 1! As if it wasn't chaotic enough.

Door banging is fine, NOT! - It's a tight circuit. It's hard to overtake. Nevertheless, so many incidents, at all DR/SR levels, at certain congestion points of the race because of someone overreacting to the slightest bump to the rear or bang to the side and turning innocuous contact into a complete disaster for everyone in the proximity.

Conformity is the only option. In contrast to my previous point, I do believe the race can feel stale unless SOMETHING happens. Everyone seems to lap at a really good pace, consistently hitting their markers. There's a fine line between chaos and boredom, I guess.

Needless to say, my newfound almost-disregard for my DR rating has meant I can enjoy these races for what they are. A few bad results aren't going to stop me from coming back, regardless of blame.

Although saying that, looking at the 7-minute race time and 6/7 minute wait between races, I can't fathom why we couldn't have at least 1 more lap in Race B!
 
MrHatss
but right now I'm in a freefall :nervous:
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I was thinking about this. What you're experiencing - the degree of it, makes me wonder if there's something in your driving style that contributes to the issue. I'm not criticizing you, just wondering. Save some replays and look at them, and see if there's anything you can do to help avoid some of these situations.

One thing that comes to mind, and this is more just to help trigger your brain, is when you approach a corner that people regularly seem to be able to cause you issues, try to stay on the inside of the corner so they can't sneak in and bump you off the track.

Like I said, the degree to which you're experiencing these issues (meaning, the amount of DR it's costing you) makes me wonder what else is going on. When people see holes they can take advantage of, they usually do, regardless of what it does to you. Plug those holes, and maybe things will be smoother.

Just some thoughts.

benjoi84
There's a fine line between chaos and boredom, I guess.
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I've thought the exact same thing about this track. Almost boring if there's nobody around, so I think I'd rather have some dust-ups (be careful what I wish for).
benjoi84
Although saying that, looking at the 7-minute race time and 6/7 minute wait between races, I can't fathom why we couldn't have at least 1 more lap in Race B!
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I will never, and I mean NEVER understand this. How would it hurt anything at all to add one or two more laps, since there's obviously time?
 
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GrumpyOldMan
Like I said, the degree to which you're experiencing these issues (meaning, the amount of DR it's costing you) makes me wonder what else is going on. When people see holes they can take advantage of, they usually do, regardless of what it does to you. Plug those holes, and maybe things will be smoother.
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Couldn't agree more. We all have some kind of ideal when it comes to what racing is meant to be, unfortunately not everyone's moral compass points in the same direction. You have to make a compromise at some point!
 
bone_tone
Whilst I don't qualify for the first part of your statement, I did take your advice and tried it - knocked .25 seconds off my F Type QT! 2 podiums in the 3 races I ran yesterday too, and didn't see anybody else using it.
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Yep, had a win in it as well this morning, it is a beast!

So quick off the mark I'm getting the jump on whatever is in front of me before T1.

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I can't race at RBR at all. Hate that hairpin as I get shoved of the track every time on the first or second lap. Outside line or inside line doesn't matter, starting on medium or soft doesn't matter. The problem is I try to avoid contact with people in front of me and brake maybe 10 meters earlier than usual but people behind don't. Also I usually have a very bad exit on the first lap from T1 from the chaos in front. Starting sixth in most races and finishing like 9-11, not very good. It's just messier than usual for me this week, so maybe I'll skip race C for now.
 
D_Dragline
@BigSarj not sure if this might help you as a reference lap? By no means alien (@GOTMAXPOWER has me comfortably beaten here), but is competitive in top split lobbies.

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Nice lap, I can't remember my time but I think we're about the same or you're a bit quicker. I've been doing that cheesy sim thing this week where you shift down the extra gear then back up just before you get back on the power out of the tighter corners (except turn 3 - the second proper corner - where you need the extra drive in 1st gear).
 
D_Dragline
@BigSarj not sure if this might help you as a reference lap? By no means alien (@GOTMAXPOWER has me comfortably beaten here), but is competitive in top split lobbies.

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This will certainly help. Matchmaking at low A has really sucked for me so I'm trying desperately to be good and consistent. Being a half second behind your time (last I saw) is a tremendous boost to my confidence, though. You're usually a full second ahead.
 
mellofello9
I think we had some races together this evening, seemed to be cleaner than expected out there tonight! 👍

Had some fun races. I'd be doing a whole lot better Dr wise if I'd keep my head in the game and car on the track, though. I do stupid stuff like reflect on how cool a pass is gonna look on the replay and lose sight of finishing the damn race to start with. Another fave is focusing on bumpers and brake lights while blowing past my brake point by a couple car lengths and going to the beach...had one of those tonight. Gotta love gettin' back on track in 1st gear as you watch P15 disappear on the horizon. Was able to claw my way back to P8 for that one at least.

I've tried the 458, Mustang, WRX and Supra but for me the Jag is way more fun to drive. Tons of steering, solid brakes and rotates with ease. Pretty easy to steer with the throttle, too. While I may not get it this time, I'm shootin' for 24's.

I'm a first timer here for racing and am lovin' this track. To me it has a very Nordchleife-lite kinda feel to it with the elevation changes, bumps and closeness of it all. :cheers:
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I was in an orange Ferrari with a blue/purple wing and lower trim. If we were in the same races it's cool to be in the same lobby with a fellow forum member even if I had no idea. I found the Jaguar has too much oversteer for my liking. I should learn to drive it properly, but I'll stick to what I know.

Road Atlanta is one of my favorite tracks as the big braking zones lead to some nice side by side action and passes in the corners. Fantastic track in my opinion.
 
GrumpyOldMan
I was thinking about this. What you're experiencing - the degree of it, makes me wonder if there's something in your driving style that contributes to the issue. I'm not criticizing you, just wondering. Save some replays and look at them, and see if there's anything you can do to help avoid some of these situations.

One thing that comes to mind, and this is more just to help trigger your brain, is when you approach a corner that people regularly seem to be able to cause you issues, try to stay on the inside of the corner so they can't sneak in and bump you off the track.

Like I said, the degree to which you're experiencing these issues (meaning, the amount of DR it's costing you) makes me wonder what else is going on. When people see holes they can take advantage of, they usually do, regardless of what it does to you. Plug those holes, and maybe things will be smoother.

Just some thoughts.
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That could be true, 2-3 weeks ago at Daytona I was closing every possible space in the inside of the corner, I was fully engaged with the action and indeed I made it to B.
Last couple of weeks I've been approaching the race with a different, I dare to say, mood...not about my feelings :D but I'm not aggressive, in a good way, as I was weeks ago, I'm engaged in the action but more focus on just driving as if I'm doing a TT instead of a race.
I have to say that this week the race C at the Ring is giving me new air to breathe, this morning I did a very funny race and with an average result, nothing bad as some days ago...last week Spa was soooooo terrible for me, really beaten as an amateur boxer at the first professional match, it kind of affected my engangement :dunce:
 
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To add to some of the advice given already, it's the braking zones that are the real danger followed by the high speed sweeping corners.

A few Glen tips throw away as needed.

1. Concede to the person inside even if they are super clean you are both going slower over all. Lose the place but keep up. Race time is what matters not a given corners race position.

2. Learn the deeper slow in fast out lines. For every inside dive bomb they have to compromise something and that is exit speed.

3. Block passing is your friend. Essentially it's a way when you pass to park the car on the apex of the next corner. Being tapped from behind is better than from the side on exit that is for sure, but it only works on chicanes of slower consecutive corners.

4. If you can remember or know this, the game rewards full consistent throttle application and that is why the fast guys upshift, you wind the power on. It feels slow but it's not because you reduce power on gear changes and carry faster exit speed on to straights. This is important for later or deeper lines.

5. Remember if a player is racing around your speed and pace then there will be contact. Contrary to the awful driver videos this is usually just people not being attentive...like turning in and you are there. Let it go and tuck back in and do them again, we can do many races a night so don't dwell on one.

6. Let the car coast. Seriously, brake, turn in and let the car find the grip. If you use assists this is where you lose a lot of time because the electronics start cutting stuff like power or auto braking. The front end has to bite and the car balance before you can maximise it. Some cars are better some cars need a tiny bit of coaxing to get the rear in line but brake turn, coast for a fraction and go.

7. It's super easy to know when to accelerate. In a corner the 2 sides of the road come towards you, at a balanced speed they stay the same distance away from you. Your acceleration point on ANY bend in any weather is when that starts to move away from you. Google "limit points" "vanishing points" and this applies if you know a road/track regardless.

Raise your vision and look further down the road. As far as you can! Constantly. On corners look at the exit not the apex!!!

8. Have fun and throw these comments away as needed or just ignore but if one person can find something in it then it wasn't wasted time typing.

I'll shut up now
 
All of them great points!👍

I will also throw-in trail-braking...being able to effectively use the steering, throttle and brake simultaneously to maintain direction and control the mass moving around was where I found some of my biggest time savings. This is even more important in '7 given the physics for weight seem WAY more active/effective than in 'Sport. :cheers:
 
Just did a couple of races. First times since Watkins Glen. According to this sample size, the quality of drivers has dropped significantly. My advice, never, ever go on the outside. I just quit a race so hopefully I can get back to those much cleaner B lobbies (I hope).
 
newmedia_dev
3. Block passing is your friend. Essentially it's a way when you pass to park the car on the apex of the next corner. Being tapped from behind is better than from the side on exit that is for sure, but it only works on chicanes of slower consecutive corners.
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Unless it’s me you just did this to, in which case you will be parked not so much on the apex as in the forest 🌳 🚗 🌳
 
Check this out - this was the screen I got at the end of the race I just did. It's totally wrong!

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  • I don't know what those symbols after "2" and "16" are, but they're not English!
  • I started P4, not P2 or P16.
  • I actually have a name, and it's not "Player Name".
  • The frickin' date is totally wrong! 2017?
  • That's not a US flag.
  • My car manufacturer is Citroën, and my car is GT by Citroën Gr.4
This is totally bizarre. After the last car finished, and the timer counted down, there was about a 5 second pause before this screen showed up.

Huh. "Next stop: The Twilight Zone!"
 
GrumpyOldMan
Check this out - this was the screen I got at the end of the race I just did. It's totally wrong!

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  • I don't know what those symbols after "2" and "16" are, but they're not English!
  • I started P4, not P2 or P16.
  • I actually have a name, and it's not "Player Name".
  • The frickin' date is totally wrong! 2017?
  • That's not a US flag.
  • My car manufacturer is Citroën, and my car is GT by Citroën Gr.4
This is totally bizarre. After the last car finished, and the timer counted down, there was about a 5 second pause before this screen showed up.

Huh. "Next stop: The Twilight Zone!"
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Maybe a server issue as the European one a couple days ago? mhmhmhmhmh
 
I did a bunch of races today. I was taken out early in most of them. Lots of rage quitting. The one great racing I had with someone had me finish 4th but, or course, I used the wrong tires. I would have 4th or 5th anyway but I ended up last.

Just an awful day but thanks to that one guy JimmyK9 for doing some legit side by side
 
GrumpyOldMan
Check this out - this was the screen I got at the end of the race I just did. It's totally wrong!

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  • I don't know what those symbols after "2" and "16" are, but they're not English!
  • I started P4, not P2 or P16.
  • I actually have a name, and it's not "Player Name".
  • The frickin' date is totally wrong! 2017?
  • That's not a US flag.
  • My car manufacturer is Citroën, and my car is GT by Citroën Gr.4
This is totally bizarre. After the last car finished, and the timer counted down, there was about a 5 second pause before this screen showed up.

Huh. "Next stop: The Twilight Zone!"
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It’s some kind of placeholder screen within the game that just appears for whatever reason. I’ve seen a few other people get it before.
 
3 more races tonight with mixed results. I ran some practice laps with no real attempt to improve my time and away I went.

Race 1 was going great with me moving from my P8 start to P5. But, I got squeezed going into the final chicane on the last lap and fell back to P8 to finish. One driver was throwing blatant blocks my way. That was annoying to deal with. They took themselves out .

Race 2 has me in P7 to start and I touch the grass exiting the last chicane and ruin my race. Add to that a driver was reset and slowly went into the racing line in turn 1 and un-ghosted at the worst possible time and I had to take a bad line and go off track. I finish P13 in that disaster of a race.

Race 3 was fantastic with a quick pace that kept me on my toes the whole time. I start P10 and make my way through the field, mainly from the misfortune of others, and I finish P5! One of the best races I've had in a long time, an absolute great time. I'm going to try and get a few more races in tomorrow before I take off on a short out of state vacation this weekend.
 
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GrumpyOldMan
Check this out - this was the screen I got at the end of the race I just did. It's totally wrong!

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  • I don't know what those symbols after "2" and "16" are, but they're not English!
  • I started P4, not P2 or P16.
  • I actually have a name, and it's not "Player Name".
  • The frickin' date is totally wrong! 2017?
  • That's not a US flag.
  • My car manufacturer is Citroën, and my car is GT by Citroën Gr.4
This is totally bizarre. After the last car finished, and the timer counted down, there was about a 5 second pause before this screen showed up.

Huh. "Next stop: The Twilight Zone!"
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Did it count in the statistics as a completed race?
 
GrumpyOldMan
I'm having a good Qualifying day today. Shaved off around .8 seconds, ranking me at 2258, which for me is about as good as it gets.

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I'm still loving the Citroën, and I can't imagine why more people aren't driving it. Very stable, and also quite fast. (Again, I'm using TCS 2.)


I totally agree that there's a lot of incompetence at PD - either that or just plain apathy. All I was saying is that the people who support the servers aren't necessarily as bad as the ones who set up the races.

This is my single biggest pet peeve, with virtually every company. If you don't tell us what's going on, we'll jump to our own conclusions, and they'll be the worst possible ones at that. If they just told us what's going on, they'd be amazed at how much better we'd look at them. Even if the explanation is "Someone screwed up big time, and we're working hard at fixing the mess they created."

They have a customer service department?

Thanks! I'm a terrible artist, but I'm enjoying playing with liveries no matter what. It just feels good to have a car wearing clothes I made for it. :lol: Although in this case, I started with someone else's livery. Most of the time I make it all myself, but something about these colors, gaudy as they are, just makes me smile.

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The GranTracker stickers are awesome haha
 

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