GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[TheOneDonJuan]

Lol I'm so bad at RBR it's almost hilarious. My times were like 21k vs my RA time at 3k. Something about these tracks (RBR, Monza, LeMans, WG) just doesn't click with me. No real tight technical sections just long sweepy areas with the occasional hairpin. Just not style of racing I guess.

 

[Mert160]

Lots of bad players this week. Both race B and C are dirty.

 

[Slowdan]

I've been having messy ones this week too. Only managed 4 race C so far.

First one of the week I started 3rd and finished 4th. I thought I started on soft and went to lap 9 before a pit stop only to realise I was already on medium and for far too long. Next race I started 13th and beaten up in fights at the bottom.

Yesterday I had a someone who was doing the very neat, get your nose in and push people wide trick, and zig-zagging down the straight when you get a run on them. I caught up to them on the way to the hairpin and tried a fake to get inside, but ended up ramming him off for a 3 sec penalty. Once I watched the replay of him pushing about 3 other drivers off (including me) I didn't feel too bad about it. 😁

So far, very irritating races. Fingers crossed it gets a bit smoother from here...

 

[D_Dragline]

Check this out - this was the screen I got at the end of the race I just did. It's totally wrong!

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• I don't know what those symbols after "2" and "16" are, but they're not English!
• I started P4, not P2 or P16.
• I actually have a name, and it's not "Player Name".
• The frickin' date is totally wrong! 2017?
• That's not a US flag.
• My car manufacturer is Citroën, and my car is GT by Citroën Gr.4

This is totally bizarre. After the last car finished, and the timer counted down, there was about a 5 second pause before this screen showed up.

Huh. "Next stop: The Twilight Zone!"

What I wouldn’t give to finish 16 after starting 31st in Event Name at Track Name.

You must have driven the nuts off that Manufacturer Car Name.

 

[walter white]

To add to some of the advice given already, it's the braking zones that are the real danger followed by the high speed sweeping corners.

A few Glen tips throw away as needed.

1. Concede to the person inside even if they are super clean you are both going slower over all. Lose the place but keep up. Race time is what matters not a given corners race position.

2. Learn the deeper slow in fast out lines. For every inside dive bomb they have to compromise something and that is exit speed.

3. Block passing is your friend. Essentially it's a way when you pass to park the car on the apex of the next corner. Being tapped from behind is better than from the side on exit that is for sure, but it only works on chicanes of slower consecutive corners.

4. If you can remember or know this, the game rewards full consistent throttle application and that is why the fast guys upshift, you wind the power on. It feels slow but it's not because you reduce power on gear changes and carry faster exit speed on to straights. This is important for later or deeper lines.

5. Remember if a player is racing around your speed and pace then there will be contact. Contrary to the awful driver videos this is usually just people not being attentive...like turning in and you are there. Let it go and tuck back in and do them again, we can do many races a night so don't dwell on one.

6. Let the car coast. Seriously, brake, turn in and let the car find the grip. If you use assists this is where you lose a lot of time because the electronics start cutting stuff like power or auto braking. The front end has to bite and the car balance before you can maximise it. Some cars are better some cars need a tiny bit of coaxing to get the rear in line but brake turn, coast for a fraction and go.

7. It's super easy to know when to accelerate. In a corner the 2 sides of the road come towards you, at a balanced speed they stay the same distance away from you. Your acceleration point on ANY bend in any weather is when that starts to move away from you. Google "limit points" "vanishing points" and this applies if you know a road/track regardless.

Raise your vision and look further down the road. As far as you can! Constantly. On corners look at the exit not the apex!!!

8. Have fun and throw these comments away as needed or just ignore but if one person can find something in it then it wasn't wasted time typing.

I'll shut up now

Thnks, very helpful
No wasted typingtime 😉

But I wonder if it's possible to set up a race in which we can compete with each other(serious racers) and leave out the dive bombers and so
I mean, nobody is flawless, but sometimes I wonder why some people are driving around anyway 🤔...

 

[Mercia]

So this guy was seemingly mad at this claiming I pushed him off, but looking at it, I don't know where he expects me to go?

I'm ahead in the black Huracan and about to take a .5 penalty, even then he goes for the outside pass which was never going to go anywhere, then tries to drive it as if I'm not there?

Thoughts? Could I have done anything to avoid this?

 

[newmedia_dev]

So this guy was seemingly mad at this claiming I pushed him off, but looking at it, I don't know where he expects me to go?

I'm ahead in the black Huracan and about to take a .5 penalty, even then he goes for the outside pass which was never going to go anywhere, then tries to drive it as if I'm not there?

Thoughts? Could I have done anything to avoid this?

You looked fine to me. I think the only thing you could have done was brake in the second part of the chicane so he could come in front of you. That would be the defensive driving approach.

But the reality is he tried to occupy a space that was already filled with another car so it's all on him.

What he should have done is gone slower and wider and cut back on the inside of you at the exit as that's how you are suppose to do it on a chicane. The first turn is to line you up for the better exit as your line was compromised being so tight.

Looked like a normal racing incident to me and he doesn't quite have his race craft refined yet

 

[OJBrit]

Check this out - this was the screen I got at the end of the race I just did. It's totally wrong!

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• I don't know what those symbols after "2" and "16" are, but they're not English!
• I started P4, not P2 or P16.
• I actually have a name, and it's not "Player Name".
• The frickin' date is totally wrong! 2017?
• That's not a US flag.
• My car manufacturer is Citroën, and my car is GT by Citroën Gr.4

This is totally bizarre. After the last car finished, and the timer counted down, there was about a 5 second pause before this screen showed up.

Huh. "Next stop: The Twilight Zone!"

Don't forget to record it in your GrandTracker. You may have to add Track Name Track Name Track Name to the list as I haven't seen it yet.

So this guy was seemingly mad at this claiming I pushed him off, but looking at it, I don't know where he expects me to go?

I'm ahead in the black Huracan and about to take a .5 penalty, even then he goes for the outside pass which was never going to go anywhere, then tries to drive it as if I'm not there?

Thoughts? Could I have done anything to avoid this?

You did nothing wrong. They were oblivious to you or expected you to jump out of their way.

 

[hardvibes]

So this guy was seemingly mad at this claiming I pushed him off, but looking at it, I don't know where he expects me to go?

I'm ahead in the black Huracan and about to take a .5 penalty, even then he goes for the outside pass which was never going to go anywhere, then tries to drive it as if I'm not there?

Thoughts? Could I have done anything to avoid this?

You were faster on the straight line but not ahead when entering the chicane.

Entering the chicane he was defending his position on the inside. So because he was ahead at that moment, I would have kept my distance behind. You didn't and I believe you slightly bumped into him.

Exiting the chicane:
-maybe he wasn't expecting you to move to the right
-maybe he was trying to force his way in.
In any case, he should have used the brakes because he definitely saw you there. But if I were you, for precaution, I would have kept the outside...not knowing what he might have done.

Edit: it just happened that I was in a race in the same circumstance as you, entering the same corner. Every time it's automatic for me to not look for trouble (collisions) and keep distance when I know I'm not ahead and there's no way for me to force my way in.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Don't forget to record it in your GrandTracker. You may have to add Track Name Track Name Track Name to the list as I haven't seen it yet.

LOL. Fortunately you can add it yourself.

 

[Kriptical]

So this guy was seemingly mad at this claiming I pushed him off, but looking at it, I don't know where he expects me to go?

I'm ahead in the black Huracan and about to take a .5 penalty, even then he goes for the outside pass which was never going to go anywhere, then tries to drive it as if I'm not there?

Thoughts? Could I have done anything to avoid this?

Did you not see them coming up on you at the end of the straight? I might have taken that as someone trying to send me to the beach given the braking zone and speed discrepancies. Seems as if afterwards he said screw it and bumped ya, and you were also into the screw its at this point and defacto pitted them.

I have to ask. Psvr 2 or flat? Im starting to think that the lack of situational awareness with flat, is leading to this sort of thing, but its just a tentative theory.

Personally, i would have let off the gas on the second corner sightly and tucked in behind him, but thats just me.

 

[Mercia]

Entering the chicane he was defending his position on the inside. So because he was ahead at that moment, I would have kept my distance behind. You didn't and I believe you slightly bumped into him.

Personally, i would have let off the gas on the second corner sightly and tucked in behind him, but thats just me.

Yeah this is the part that concerned me as I had no idea where he was at that moment.

I saw him going down the outside on entry but figured either he backs out as the move wasn't on or it becomes a crash, either way I had the line into the chicane IMO.

But definitely in the second part, cockpit view on flat TV, I was concentrating on the turn and didn't know where he was until I felt the bump on my left.

 

[MetalApe]

Yeah this is the part that concerned me as I had no idea where he was at that moment.

I saw him going down the outside on entry but figured either he backs out as the move wasn't on or it becomes a crash, either way I had the line into the chicane IMO.

But definitely in the second part, cockpit view on flat TV, I was concentrating on the turn and didn't know where he was until I felt the bump on my left.

Even VR lacks peripheral vision. Practically you're not going to be twisting your head to the side to see who's there mid-corner. Drivers with a Chase Cam I'd guess have the best peripheral vision, and maybe wonder why the rest of us can't see cars alongside so well.

 

[mellofello9]

Thnks, very helpful
No wasted typingtime 😉

But I wonder if it's possible to set up a race in which we can compete with each other(serious racers) and leave out the dive bombers and so
I mean, nobody is flawless, but sometimes I wonder why some people are driving around anyway 🤔...

Would be cool if there was a standing GTPlanet race in the lobby...run the same tracks as the dailies and we can (try to) use that as a meeting ground? I know these things often start with grand intentions but die on the vine but, and with enough interest, maybe it could happen?

Just thinkin' out-loud, which is rarely a good thing. Though, when done in public, tends to earn you a good berth from all those around you. 😁

 

[Moose78]

But definitely in the second part, cockpit view on flat TV, I was concentrating on the turn and didn't know where he was until I felt the bump on my left.

It certainly doesn't help that the radar view is in the bottom right corner of the screen in cockpit view. When making left-hand turns, it is extra difficult to know what's going on. To make the turn, the focus needs to be toward the top left of the screen, while all the information about the positions of other cars is on the bottom right.

As a cockpit driver, I've been burned on this so many times. I'll get into the corner and won't even notice that somebody has sneaked up beside me until I've turned into them.

 

[Kriptical]

Even VR lacks peripheral vision. Practically you're not going to be twisting your head to the side to see who's there mid-corner. Drivers with a Chase Cam I'd guess have the best peripheral vision, and maybe wonder why the rest of us can't see cars alongside so well.

I disagree regarding vr. I pick up that sort of thing all the time as you can clock them in the side mirrors on the way in. If they’ve disappeared its likely they are in your blind spot.

Also, as long as you aren’t sitting on top of your wheel its entirely possible to pick up things peripherally in the side mirrors. I can 100% say that in vr this wouldn’t have happened to me. I can also say that this sort of thing is why i refused to race online until adequate VR became a thing.

 

[MetalApe]

I disagree regarding vr. I pick up that sort of thing all the time as you can clock them in the side mirrors. If they’ve disappeared its likely they are in your blind spot. Also, as long as you aren’t sitting on top of your wheel its entirely possible to pick up things peripherally in the side mirrors.

I do keep a good eye out on the approach, and normally know someones coming. The tricky part is once you're into the corner it's hard to see what they're actually upto, as was the case with Merica's incident.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Unless it’s me you just did this to, in which case you will be parked not so much on the apex as in the forest 🌳 🚗 🌳

Well, it is legal to do in real racing. It's extremely annoying when it happens to you but it's not something stewards clamp down on

 

[Roggers]

So after a 3 months absence I finally made a return to Daily Races this week.
My last daily race was back in May in when we the exact same Daily C. I don’t know what it is but the last 3 months I’ve just found myself not bothering with GT7. I think some of the combos have been poor and some lacking strategies. Only thing I liked doing was the weekly time trials.
As this week we had RBR back I jumped back on again. And actually I’ve been having some good fun. EMEA servers have been fairly clean apart from 1 who just deliberately took me out, but in general I’ve had some good racing. Jumped on the Americas server too and again the racing has been great.
Hopefully this will kick start me again into doing Daily race.

 

[Yard_Sale]

Stuck at a 1:28.3 on RBR in the 911. There’s a 1:27.9 in there if I nail everything, but it’s pretty incredible how off-pace anything but a GTR or a Genesis is. Racing has been…. decent. Since I’m off pace anyways, I usually let the non-qually guys come through as they catch me in the first few laps, and do my best to capatalize off peoples penalties or offs that usually yields me a net gain/loss of zero places before I pit. Definitely not getting any top 5 finishes, but doing just enough to slowly get some DR on the main.

Might use this as an opportunity to pad my newly-minted ‘A’ on my oceanic account.

Hopefully we get another FIA season soon. It would be nice to race events with varied cars again

 

[TechnoIsLove]

It happened again! The good thing, not usual crap 😂

Race 1 - Still high B-rating on 2nd account, started P11 and finished P8 with some great, close racing!

Race 2 - Moved up to entry level A-rating (DR) and started P14 from 15... Finished P7 with some great battles and clean race bonus 😀



Also, have to say massive thanks to @Leon Kowalski for recommending the Aston, it's a gem to drive!

 

[Stilva]

I got 2 more Road Atlanta races done this afternoon. Same qualifying time as I just jumped in to some racing.

I was in a mixed A/B lobby and down in P9 to start for race 1. Like yesterday, it was a quick pace and clean from where I was. There was one huge intentional wreck that involved 3 cars that got me up to P6. I did get into the back of someone, but they were reacting to a move in front of them so a racing incident from my point of view. I did apologize afterward. An off track penalty sends me down to P8 where i finish. It felt great to keep up with some A rank drivers and keep it clean.

Race 2 was mostly the same lobby and I was P8 on the grid. Again, more clean racing from what I saw. There was an awkward moment where P7 took a funny bounce entering the esses and somehow I manage to avoid them, make the left-hand turn, avoid the penalty, then get a way from the mess they made. I make a pass on the inside entering the final chicane and take over P6. I defend like crazy and keep it on track and finish P6.

Great racing this afternoon and it's a shame I won't be able to do it the rest of the week due to my trip I got into a nice groove on track and felt quicker the more races I did. Oh, well, I had fun the past 2 days. And thanks to GranTracker, I can see what small progress I'm making towards A rank. One day I'll get there so I can get smacked around by the rest of A rank.

 

[sturk0167]

I found a silver lining to the dark cloud of this week's daily races.
What I mean by dark cloud is that I normally don't enjoy the three tracks that are being used this week.
I don't enjoy them because I am not very good at them.
But, it's too hot to go fishing, so yesterday I did some racing.

I did the B races at Atlanta, because the length is ideal for me (7-8 minutes).
I started at the back because my rating is A/S, and I didn't want to get in the way of people who know how to drive the track.
After a few races, I got more comfortable. I was gaining about 3 or 4 spots per race.
My A rating is very low, and I was getting closer to B. I figured I would set a Q time, to hopefully get some better finishes.

Qualifying was almost no help at all. Entering the races with my Q time, got me an average starting position of about 14th.
But I was having a fair amount of fun, without winning being even a remote possibility.
I think I have pretty good racecraft, so often I'm able to beat faster qualifiers who don't do so well in the races.
My personal victories at the B race are when I can finish in the top half.

I'm gonna put some more effort into qualifying this afternoon, and make finishing in 5th place my daily goal. 👍

 

[NAXEHT]

Been thinking about potentially getting myself an alternative account for doing some American racing every once in a while. One minor conundrum and perhaps it’s insignificant but it was a thought that came to me, any flag that’s preferred? Some undesirable ones to avoid? Or perhaps it simply doesn’t matter. My driving will show I’m clean anyway.

 

[newmedia_dev]

This is a new one on me.

All of the controls were inverted and I could only move forwards with reverse...

The video is uploading/processing on YT so will add the link.

I've done a lot of races but this is a new one for me. Not click bait but oh my

Edit: link

Edit 2: it's the essess and I was lazy with the trimming (in a rush) the rest is just me kicked out and signing up again.

This is some weird code physics if I'm honest. It's locked the camera to the controls which is odd but it's the fact I just instantly saw the reverse view and well you can see the video.

 

[sturk0167]

Been thinking about potentially getting myself an alternative account for doing some American racing every once in a while. One minor conundrum and perhaps it’s insignificant but it was a thought that came to me, any flag that’s preferred? Some undesirable ones to avoid? Or perhaps it simply doesn’t matter. My driving will show I’m clean anyway.

Pick one that nobody knows. Guyana, Suriname, or somewhere in the Caribbean.
When I made an Asian account in GT Sport, I was gonna go with something really obscure, like Palau, or the Solomon Islands.
GT didn't offer them as an option. I think in GT7, there's only certain countries that you can select.
There are 35 countries in the Americas, but I bet if you try to start a new account, there will only be 20-25 to choose from.
Not sure why they do that.

 

[Roggers]

Can’t drive the Gr4 cars at all right now. Normally I’m very good round RA and especially in Gr4, but I just can’t seem to find any pace. Also the no brake bias isn’t helping? Why do PD have it for a few weeks them remove it?

 

[newmedia_dev]

Been thinking about potentially getting myself an alternative account for doing some American racing every once in a while. One minor conundrum and perhaps it’s insignificant but it was a thought that came to me, any flag that’s preferred? Some undesirable ones to avoid? Or perhaps it simply doesn’t matter. My driving will show I’m clean anyway.

I set up a US account and it was fun for like 10 mins.

The reality is that for me my rankings are based on what I do most which is my main account. It's the one with guts and all exposed and the one I want to do better on.

It's a false economy. You have a good account, you start a new account and for a really short time you are amazing, then as you level up (quickly) you realise that A/B standards are pretty much the same.

But at that point you can't go seal clubbing again. So you end up with a half arsed account that is just as competitive as the one you have but if you use the half arsed account you aren't actually improving the main account which is the one that matters.

 

[hardvibes]

Can’t drive the Gr4 cars at all right now. Normally I’m very good round RA and especially in Gr4, but I just can’t seem to find any pace.

Same here. My DR progression bar was at A 50% and now close to 10% or less because I keep losing positions and finishing between 9th and 16th at Road Atlanta. And I can't replicate my 1:25.495 QT with the 650S, I'm always way slower than that. I tried all cars (Jag included) and checked many replays. This is the best I can do.
Dunno what's wrong with me. I can't steer the 650S anymore. And if I take corners in a lower gear my ghost flies away.
I didn't change my controller settings.
Mistery.
Maybe I was drunk when I saved my best QT.

Also the no brake bias isn’t helping? Why do PD have it for a few weeks them remove it?

Maybe they're testing something out. Like they did with random rain and tires (outrage) on Spa.
Anyway BB was way more effective before, and in GT Sport. I can barely feel the difference now. It's more of a placebo effect imo.

I don't know if they also stopped changing the wind direction every time we close and restart the qualifying session. Looks like it's always 1.8 m/s North for Race B qualifying.

 

[Mercia]

They only add brake bias to Race C unless I'm mistaken?