GTP IndyCar S2 | Champions - TomMcD & Team Penske! | Awards Announced!

[PAWEL17]

Oh, until first car passes Pit wall. I see.

 

[cgr-10]

It's alright saying 'You're not talking Tom, we can't hear you' but if some of you had shut up for a minute you might have been able to hear me, like it says in the OP;

During caution periods there shall be no talking on the mics except from me, Joe and the safety car driver Brett.

And speaking of the OP, did anybody actually read it or is it just there for 🤬 decoration. It's there for a reason. The organization is not 'amateur', some of the drivers are, they need to understand everything on the first posts before they race with us. I know I'll get the blame for all of this and frankly I don't care, I, at least know it's mainly not my fault.

PM me with any incidents you want reviewing, I'll watch the race back and award penalties tomorrow.

Tom

 

[DrifterJoe]

One last thing for anyone who keeps/likes stats, before I do the necessary NASCAR testing: the pole time was 40.060 (crossed the line a few seconds before the race started)

 

[Knelly]

Tom, at least all those in S1 will support you mate.

But tonight was a shambles. Everytime I got back to the front, something would happen. I had 5 incidents and as thought after watching the replay, not one was my fault. Pathetic.

EDIT: I fully expect penalties and a potential 'park for the rest of the series' after all this.

 

[cgr-10]

Tom, at least all those in S1 will support you mate.

But tonight was a shambles. Everytime I got back to the front, something would happen. I had 5 incidents and as thought after watching the replay, not one was my fault. Pathetic.

EDIT: I fully expect penalties and a potential 'park for the rest of the series' after all this.

Hopefully mate, lot of moaning and whining by people who aren't much better than the people they're moaning about.

Unlucky man, I'll consider and review everything in your PM. Penalties and DQ/Kicks are a certainty.

 

[Knelly]

Can't wait for the 500

 

[IndyWolf]

Good front running between me, Fastfox, Droptop, and Tom from time to time, sorry that not many others had the same luck. The only issue I have was that since everyone was talking I couldn't hear Tom and didn't know when to move up on pace since I qualified for 3rd but started in 14th

EDIT: Brendan you turnip, you broke your promise

 

[cgr-10]

Good front running between me, fastfox, droptop, and Tom from time to time, sorry that not many others had the same luck. The only issue I have was that since everyone was talking I couldn't hear Tom and didn't know when to move up on pace since I qualified for 3rd but started in 14th

Exactly man, people need to read EVERYTHING on the OP. If they'd have seen the bit about 'shutting the hell up during cautions/while the safety car is out' we wouldn't have had these problems. You're a quality driver and a great addition to the series, pleasure to run with you mate 👍

 

[Cowboys965]

I missed another wrecking with some hot laps?

 

[MustangRyan]

Sorry Tom, but that was pretty pathetic. You need to have drivers prove they know race ettiquite on ovals before you let them join. After I got spun into turn one I got disconnected for some reason. But I'm not going to bother showing up if races are going to go down like this. No one knew what they were doing under caution. This series needs a serious overhaul.

I helped create this series but if none of what I just said is taken into consideration I will have to bode you farewell. You've all but exluded me thus far. This was supposed to be a "professional" series and right now it's extremely amateur.

This all I'm going to say about the accident on lap 13, to which you are referencing:

I want every single driver that saved the replay to watch it from my view and answer the following questions:

1. Was LV clearly in the outside lane all the way down the front stretch on lap 13, even into corner entry?

2. Was I clearly in the inside lane for the entire straightaway, even into corner entry?

3. Was there a lead draft only in front of my car, and not in front of his car?

4. Was I going 13mph faster than him (214 to 201) when he turned right down in front of me?

5. As soon as he pulled down in front of me, did I get off the gas, on the brakes, and nearly put all four tires in the grass to try to avoid his car?

6. Was I successful in NOT contacting his car?

7. Was his car lagging as soon as the accident started?

 

[cgr-10]

I'll obviously check it out tomorrow and watch it from your view, not on my PS3 at the moment though.

 

[berty1979]

Unlucky tonight Tom, quite a few people not read the rules. I couldnt hear you over the racket during cautions and vice versa which didnt help. Congrats on finding a replacement driver for the safety car. PM me if you need cover on a friday, my new job doesnt start for about 3 weeks 👍

 

[IndyWolf]

Mustang - from what I saw, he jumped in front of ya and then lag caused the damage on ya as he spun out, surprise your able to keep up the pace with the front (y'all caught cause I thought there was another caution)

 

[VELOCI_2NR]

Looks like a cool series. Would I be able to join even though a race has already been completed? I'll run as a reserve or freelance if need be.

 

[cgr-10]

Unlucky tonight Tom, quite a few people not read the rules. I couldnt hear you over the racket during cautions and vice versa which didnt help. Congrats on finding a replacement driver for the safety car. PM me if you need cover on a friday, my new job doesnt start for about 3 weeks 👍

Cheers, it really is annoying when that happens.

Sure thing man, thanks for all your help up to now. You've been an absolute legend and an integral part of getting this whole thing off the ground 👍

EDIT: Sure Veloci, I'll stick you down as a reserve. Add Tom_97_COD on PSN 👍

 

[MustangRyan]

Mustang - from what I saw, he jumped in front of ya and then lag caused the damage on ya as he spun out, surprise your able to keep up the pace with the front (y'all caught cause ( I thought there was another caution)

I got damage from hitting the outside wall trying to drive around his spinning car.

 

[cgr-10]

I got damage from hitting the outside wall trying to drive around his spinning car.

That's the one thing I did see; you in the wall avoiding another car.

 

[DrifterJoe]

Good teamwork with Neljack in the middle of the race allowed us to catch back up to the lead pack from about 3 or 4 seconds back. Things like that are how you stay in contention for the win (though a caution would let us catch up anyway). I know Knelly also worked with Neljack to catch up earlier in the race too.

 

[cgr-10]

Good teamwork with Neljack in the middle of the race allowed us to catch back up to the lead pack from about 3 or 4 seconds back. Things like that are how you stay in contention for the win (though a caution would let us catch up anyway). I know Knelly also worked with Neljack to catch up earlier in the race too.

Loads and loads of people got mighty unlucky, road course next week should be slightly less eventful...

 

[Cowboys965]

Opener's always eventful.

 

[cgr-10]

Opener's always eventful.

So it seems Should calm down a bit from now onwards, there's one or two guys under review for a ban.

How'd your baseball go mate?

 

[Cowboys965]

So it seems Should calm down a bit from now onwards, there's one or two guys under review for a ban.

How'd your baseball go mate?

We lost, we had 2-3 long innings.

But not when I was pitching.

 

[LVracerGT]

Ryan, If I lagged it was probably because of the hosts connection. I've run a vast amount of races with no problem. I even ran 8-10 races afterwards tonight and was able to run inches apart from guys in a spec sports tire room.

On my map view, you were not beside me when I entered the corner, and all I heard was "inside" as I got hit. I don't know if you have ever seen and Indy 500, but the line I took is the correct line through turn 1. I don't have the replay because I got disconnected right after my pit stop after I hit the wall. Trying to force the issue there isn't smart at all let alone on a restart with cold tires.

Tom - if you want to continue running this without my help or input let me know. I've been involved in many series and I know what it takes to run a legitimate respectable series. I've had an idea of how things should be handled from before S1 was attempted but you've kept me in the dark thus far. Just from the short time I was in the race tonight there was at least 3 things that were obvious that need to be addressed. First is public server for races. People jumping in and out cause lag and connection issues for everyone. That's just one.

 

[Knelly]

LV, with that attitude you are not wanted here. I for one, and others will agree, can vouch that Tom runs a very credible and successful series. S1 was a testament to this and if you were around at all, then you would have seen discussions, changes, improvement, close racing etc etc.

Do not come in here and because you got yourself taken out, start dissing the series and the host.

Yes you provided some facts and figures at the beginning, which we still predominately use.

Last nights issues were not Toms fault. There were brand new drivers, some not tested, lack if reading of the OP, in public lobby due to loading issues but is normally in private. All things beyond Toms control.

No doubt Tom will heavily penalise where appropriate as well, so all will come out.

Therefore, LV thanks for your input, but as this was your first race in two seasons, I don't think you have any right to put any claim into this series. And you won't be missed after your comments above.

 

[neljack]

Good teamwork with Neljack in the middle of the race allowed us to catch back up to the lead pack from about 3 or 4 seconds back. Things like that are how you stay in contention for the win (though a caution would let us catch up anyway). I know Knelly also worked with Neljack to catch up earlier in the race too.

Yeah no worries guys my race was messed up so might as well help others 👍

 

[cgr-10]

Ryan, If I lagged it was probably because of the hosts connection. I've run a vast amount of races with no problem. I even ran 8-10 races afterwards tonight and was able to run inches apart from guys in a spec sports tire room.

On my map view, you were not beside me when I entered the corner, and all I heard was "inside" as I got hit. I don't know if you have ever seen and Indy 500, but the line I took is the correct line through turn 1. I don't have the replay because I got disconnected right after my pit stop after I hit the wall. Trying to force the issue there isn't smart at all let alone on a restart with cold tires.

Tom - if you want to continue running this without my help or input let me know. I've been involved in many series and I know what it takes to run a legitimate respectable series. I've had an idea of how things should be handled from before S1 was attempted but you've kept me in the dark thus far. Just from the short time I was in the race tonight there was at least 3 things that were obvious that need to be addressed. First is public server for races. People jumping in and out cause lag and connection issues for everyone. That's just one.

See everything said in Knelly's comment above. Your input was minimal from the get go and most of the rules have been put together by myself, Knelly, Joe and Brett. So yes to answer your question, I would like to run this without your less than useful 'help' and less than regular 'input.

Gents, I'll do a preliminary race review today, Joe will do one on Monday and we'll convene to issue penalties etc. 👍

 

[LILKARL420]

Sorry, i got disconnected lastnight, and for some reason it wouldnt let me back in. I think its all good now. Should be ready for next week

 

[cgr-10]

Sorry, i got disconnected lastnight, and for some reason it wouldnt let me back in. I think its all good now. Should be ready for next week

No worries man, you disconnected after LV and Matty got a DNS so you'll be credited with 12th. Better than nothing 👍

EDIT: Starting my review now.

 

[LVracerGT]

I wasn't around last season because Tom made the race times when I was still at work because the majority of the drivers were UK. And Tom, every time I would PM you and ask you to include me you would tell me you would and then go on without me anyway. You didn't even give me a chance to include any input.

I PM'd you with regulations and schedules, race distances etc that would be true to the IndyCar series and you subtly dismissed all of them.

Knelly, you know I did more than just provide some figures. I helped with ALL of the testing to get this off the ground. I was running laps at Indy for hours on end figuring out how to get the most realistic experience out of the car.

Tom, I'm glad that you're running an IndyCar series. You all know that IndyCar is my favorite motorsport. But last night never should have happened the way it did.

1. Races should be in a private lounge. I've already stated random people jumping in and out cause connection issues for everyone and contributed to a lot of the lag and disconnections. A host with a stable connection is better for everyone. I run my Formula Drift series this way and have minimal issues.

2. Indianapolis, of ALL tracks, should have "rookie orientation" and I've discussed this in a PM with you last season. I see you disregarded that as well. Drivers who participate need to be observed that they know the rules and the line. The fact you allowed drivers in to the first race without knowing they knew the rules or the proper racing etiquette around Indy is the reason why last nights race was such a cluster 🤬.

I did all of the testing for this and thus far I've been pretty much forced out of this series. If you all want to exclude me, I'll take the testing I did and start my own series. If you want to actually include me in a series I helped get off the ground, then take my effing input and make me actually a part of the series.

 

[cgr-10]

I wasn't around last season because Tom made the race times when I was still at work because the majority of the drivers were UK. And Tom, every time I would PM you and ask you to include me you would tell me you would and then go on without me anyway. You didn't even give me a chance to include any input.

I PM'd you with regulations and schedules, race distances etc that would be true to the IndyCar series and you subtly dismissed all of them.

Knelly, you know I did more than just provide some figures. I helped with ALL of the testing to get this off the ground. I was running laps at Indy for hours on end figuring out how to get the most realistic experience out of the car.

Tom, I'm glad that you're running an IndyCar series. You all know that IndyCar is my favorite motorsport. But last night never should have happened the way it did.

1. Races should be in a private lounge. I've already stated random people jumping in and out cause connection issues for everyone and contributed to a lot of the lag and disconnections. A host with a stable connection is better for everyone. I run my Formula Drift series this way and have minimal issues.

2. Indianapolis, of ALL tracks, should have "rookie orientation" and I've discussed this in a PM with you last season. I see you disregarded that as well. Drivers who participate need to be observed that they know the rules and the line. The fact you allowed drivers in to the first race without knowing they knew the rules or the proper racing etiquette around Indy is the reason why last nights race was such a cluster 🤬.

I did all of the testing for this and thus far I've been pretty much forced out of this series. If you all want to exclude me, I'll take the testing I did and start my own series. If you want to actually include me in a series I helped get off the ground, then take my effing input and make me actually a part of the series.

So a PM every couple of months is classed as involvement?

I can tell you for a fact you didn't PM me with a calendar and race distances, both of these are fine anyway. We normally use a private lounge but you may have noticed the lounge broke mid-session; I'll be going back to lounge for next week as it's always worked for me in the past.

I make the times so the most of the regulars can make it, I'm not getting up at 4 in the morning to host a pathetic 5 man race because it's easier for you to make it. You always seem to be busy and have an erratic schedule so stop blaming me for shutting you out, there's sweet F.A I could have done about it.

I'm sorry if I didn't pay much attention to a PM sent by somebody I hadn't talked to for about 3 months prior to receiving it. Joe's said a oval pre-season ace would be good next season which is a fair point and will probably be implemented.

If you want to start your own series, fine. Go ahead. To be quite frank I really don't have the time for people who moan and whine constantly about everything. Generally we have clean, exciting racing (happened throughout S1) because a lot of the guys here are stand up racers that I know I can trust going three wide in turn 1. Last season round 1 was a bit of a nightmare but we kicked a couple of troublemakers and had a great season; I can see this happening once again.

P.S: The incident with Drop was entirely your fault, he was down low and you simply turned in on him. It's your responsibility to look out for cars on the low line when you're outside and hold the outside accordingly, you can't just bully your way around the track taking whatever line you want. 4/5 of the grid here is clean, good luck finding a better set of drivers for your series.