GTP NASCAR Truck Series General Discussion / POLL UP

[Chqr]

Got any Chevy tyre wear saving ones? 💡

I wish.

Tyre wear is nearly the same between all the trucks. The Toyotas have a slight longevity advantage by 1 or 2 laps but that can be achieved with the Ford and Dodge with its supercharger.

EDIT: I'm referring to Daytona here.

 

[Spurgy 777]

Anyone got a spare Chevy they can send me?

 

[Akmuq]

I wouldn't mind an Indy setup.💡


As for Monster, I don't think I have the setup from last season, but setup has little to do with it. Trust me, I'm an experienced winner there.

 

[Furinkazen]

Anyone got a spare Chevy they can send me?

Will see if I can get hold of one, try marketplace.

 

[Chqr]

As for Monster, I don't think I have the setup from last season, but setup has little to do with it. Trust me, I'm an experienced winner there.

Carb finished behind me and Joe was lapped by you I believe. Everyone bar Furi had Toyotas I seem to recall too.

I'm an awful driver in terms of consistency and pace without a setup.

Oh yeah and Furi finished a few laps down so it can't be due to driver skill.

 

[Furinkazen]

I was only one with faith in the bowtie.

Also to confirm teams DO NOT have to have same colours and rims. As long as I know what team your registered to it is fine.

Also top 2 from each team count for pts in Teams title race.

 

[MustangRyan]

Also to confirm teams DO NOT have to have same colours and rims.

It would just look a lot better if you did.

 

[Furinkazen]

It would just look a lot better if you did.

But where's the colour and spectacle in that otherwise?

 

[Akmuq]

Carb finished behind me and Joe was lapped by you I believe. Everyone bar Furi had Toyotas I seem to recall too.

I'm an awful driver in terms of consistency and pace without a setup.

Oh yeah and Furi finished a few laps down so it can't be due to driver skill.

I lapped Joe once, almost got him a second time, was about 3.5 seconds off near the end, and lapped everyone else 3 times IIRC.

It would just look a lot better if you did.

Have to say I disagree, there would just be 4 or 5 different sets of matching colours and considering Furi's would use Blue, me and kartman would be white, and Carbon would be Black. Not really exciting for one half of the field.

Oh, me and kartman are Scuderia Venom. I'll do a diagram.

Akmuq's Teams​

Team'd with kartman=Scuderia Venom​

Team'd with Dax=Team Venom​

I also put team colours in there too.

 

[Chqr]

But where's the colour and spectacle in that otherwise?

Well I've got plans for three big black angry menacing Dodges to appear on track.

 

[Furinkazen]

Monster now 125 laps. Instead of 100.

EDIT. Dodge is supposed to be red Chqr you buffoon.

 

[MustangRyan]

Have to say I disagree, there would just be 4 or 5 different sets of matching colours and considering Furi's would use Blue, me and kartman would be white, and Carbon would be Black. Not really exciting for one half of the field.

If there were 8 teams of 2 drivers, there should be plenty of interesting color combinations to see, unless you all decide to be boring.

 

[Chqr]

EDIT. Dodge is supposed to be red Chqr you buffoon.

Just remembered, its now Hot Pink.

 

[Furinkazen]

If there were 8 teams of 2 drivers, there should be plenty of interesting color combinations to see, unless you all decide to be boring.

You obviously don't know my lot. Uncreative bunch.

Teams of 3, 2, 1 ... plenty of scope for partnerships and alliances. Should be less chaos as you have team mates now, not every man for himself.

 

[MustangRyan]

Chrome-colored trucks went 2-for-2 in the final standings in the first two seasons. Someone needs to bring that back.

 

[Furinkazen]

Chrome-colored trucks went 2-for-2 in the final standings in the first two seasons. Someone needs to bring that back.

Akmuq has a Silver Chrome Toyota...

 

[MustangRyan]

Akmuq has a Silver Chrome Toyota...

Then he's the S4 champion. You should all just start racing for 2nd place now. 👍

 

[Furinkazen]

Pimp

 

[Akmuq]

Venom are going to be unbeatable now....

 

[Chqr]

My stance on cautions.

I believe there shouldn't be and here's why:

1. IndyCar use cautions. It works well there because there is no bump-drafting or physical contact on the ovals between cars. In Trucks, the only way to get around is to bump-draft and typically bump-drafting causes cautions.
2. Cautions bring cautions. It is typical for a field to bunch up after a wreck and wreck again. I would love to have cautions whereby they wouldn't be too intruding in the overall outcome of the race but to have cautions every five laps as was the case in the Indy 500 first half, it is very annoying.
3. The drivers here. The Trucks in some ways will have less experienced drivers than the Nationwide and Cup. Giving drivers the safety-net of if they wreck, they have cautions will not be the right way to go in my opinion. Drop's philosophy of 'no cautions' to encourage clean racing is mine too.

HOWEVER, I wouldn't mind seeing cautions if there was some sort of penalty for those in the accident like heavy damage or something to that effect.

I wouldn't mind seeing cautions for lag accidents too only if the above doesn't work out.

 

[DrifterJoe]

Venom are going to be unbeatable now....

Meet Venom's third driver.

Existing Toyota Daytona, Indy, SSRX, and road course setups will have to be tweaked, but that shouldn't be a problem for us.

 

[Carbonox]

Some of those suggestions against cautions are more against clean drivers than dirty ones...

 

[Furinkazen]

OP will be updated within 48 hours and / or transferred to a new final thread.

 

[Carbonox]

Furi, would you like to listen for a while?

It's not correct that someone falls out of the whole race just because he got slammed into a wall by a newb unable to handle the car properly.

 

[Furinkazen]

Furi, would you like to listen for a while?

It's not correct that someone falls out of the whole race just because he got slammed into a wall by a newb unable to handle the car properly.

I am listening. I just don't see it working out, especially when the last 3 races.

IF we were to have cautions, it would probably be just 2 pace laps. So for example if you and Akmuq wreck on lap 56, caution immediately, end of lap 57 option on whether to pit or not, green end of 58. So 2 full caution laps.

How would cautions work at SSRX and Monster though? And Iowa?

Also no cautions with under 3 to go, as we wouldn't have time to re start. And race back to the green once yellow is out?

 

[gokartman78]

I am listening. I just don't see it working out, especially when the last 3 races.

IF we were to have cautions, it would probably be just 2 pace laps. So for example if you and Akmuq wreck on lap 56, caution immediately, end of lap 57 option on whether to pit or not, green end of 58. So 2 full caution laps.

How would cautions work at SSRX and Monster though? And Iowa?

Also no cautions with under 3 to go, as we wouldn't have time to re start. And race back to the green once yellow is out?

SSRX sucks. don't put it in. Monster lap is so short it isn't necessary unless it's a 6 truck pile up into turn 1. Iowa you might need them but you just bring the pace down. 60 mph. Don't let lapped cars back round as that adds another 2/3 laps of waiting dependent on track.

The reason i am in favour of cautions is because it allows the field to stay together, it allows people who have had some bad luck to keep racing. think back to daytona in vintage. Carb got put in the wall by someone racing nascar for the first time. no draft, left out. no way he could have been back in the race. 5 laps later there was an incident that would have brought a caution out. Carb's evening and race would have been saved. it makes it more fun by adding variety to the laps, and it makes it fairer by allowing people back into the race who got involved in an incident that wasn't their fault. also can be called if it's lagging like hell. that again makes it better for everyone. keeping everyone in contention and creating a wide open unpredictable series.

thats my view.

 

[Chqr]

SSRX sucks. don't put it in. Monster lap is so short it isn't necessary unless it's a 6 truck pile up into turn 1. Iowa you might need them but you just bring the pace down. 60 mph. Don't let lapped cars back round as that adds another 2/3 laps of waiting dependent on track.

The reason i am in favour of cautions is because it allows the field to stay together, it allows people who have had some bad luck to keep racing. think back to daytona in vintage. Carb got put in the wall by someone racing nascar for the first time. no draft, left out. no way he could have been back in the race. 5 laps later there was an incident that would have brought a caution out. Carb's evening and race would have been saved. it makes it more fun by adding variety to the laps, and it makes it fairer by allowing people back into the race who got involved in an incident that wasn't their fault. also can be called if it's lagging like hell. that again makes it better for everyone. keeping everyone in contention and creating a wide open unpredictable series.

thats my view.

For sure, I agree.

I've got an idea for Monster. How about you turn on weak penalties? This way cars a lap down won't be blocking the track in such a tight track.

I do not want cautions at SSRX. Cautions WILL definitely BRING Cautions there.

Cautions if done the right way could work though.

 

[Akmuq]

No penalties, as getting through the traffic is part of the race at Martinsville in real life. Cautions would work everywhere IMO.

 

[Akmuq]

Turn 3 on this is easier and will hopefully cause less wrecks. And yes, I'm hitting the limiter for the entire lap.



0.34 mile left-turning short-track, nice track, but the turn 2 is a bit tight, the following is better.



A massive 0.01 miles longer at 0.35 miles, and it's fast for a short track, and multiple lines through turn 1 as well, I went faster on the second lap with a completely different line through turn 1. Better and more safe than Iowa IMO.

 

[nate11x]

No penalties, as getting through the traffic is part of the race at Martinsville in real life. Cautions would work everywhere IMO.

Cautions only work if there is no prize at the end. All you are doing with cautions is bringing the field back together so you can wreck again,again, and again until guys like carb and myself get tired of being wrecked and leave. Cautions are only one of the reasons I will not run this series again if they are implimented.