GTP_Registry Discussion Thread

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Div4 silver! Not bad considering I just took the advice, went and did a couple of laps and just sent in my best go. Figured my usual driving should be competitive in the division I get placed it. Hope to race some of you soon. And I am sure this has been mentioned before in the thread, but it's midnight, work at 7 tmrw and I haven't the time to flip thru this...can we work our way up the divisions?? Someone kindly answer for me?

Thanks Sphinx for putting it all together, just brilliant!

 

[01GTP]

can we work our way up the divisions?? Someone kindly answer for me?

In the WRS people move up a division by winning in their division too much.
We like to win, but if the same person wins a lot in their division, that person will be promoted to the next division so others can win and that person will compete in a different division.

People should not be concerned with their position on the registry, after some events we will know who is where they belong among our fellow competitors.

The only way to be demoted is that person wanting to be demoted. Example: They spent a lot of time on the qualifier (did well) but have less time to spend on each event and can not keep up with the others in the same division.


This is another reason not to discuss lap times because someone can see a time that would put them in a lower division and win quite a bit due to not being in the proper division they belong. Sand bagging the qualifier won't work for long either as the outcome of each event could lead to a promotion to a higher division.

No promotions will be handed out for a while unless the same person wins week after week after week, etc.

Hope this clarifies it for you and others.

Kenny

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

I suspect I'll be in division 2 very soon, I just did a few muck around laps on the qualifier race now I have a wheel (and I'm talking 5 laps tops), and already I've beaten my previous (controller set, hard worked on) time by 0.6sec!
I do have big problems with correcting mistakes still though with the wheel, mainly with the MR cars, I should probably left foot brake them to avoid liff-off oversteer, otherwise div.2 here I come!

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

I suspect I'll be in division 2 very soon, I just did a few muck around laps on the qualifier race now I have a wheel (and I'm talking 5 laps tops), and already I've beaten my previous (controller set, hard worked on) time by 0.6sec!
I do have big problems with correcting mistakes still though with the wheel, mainly with the MR cars, I should probably left foot brake them to avoid liff-off oversteer, otherwise div.2 here I come!

Lift off and brake hard in a straight line then squeeze the throttle down as you're coming off the brakes to find the sweet spot.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Lift off and brake hard in a straight line then squeeze the throttle down as you're coming off the brakes to find the sweet spot.

Yeah, something I'd require left foot braking for.

 

[Timppaq]

Sorry guys...

Quote, Jerry:
"Do not discuss privately or post publicly any of your splits or final times, or anything relating to this qualifier that would help another driver to improve on his/her final lap time. By taking part in this qualifier you agree to this very strict ruling."

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Sorry guys...

Quote, Jerry:
"Do not discuss privately or post publicly any of your splits or final times, or anything relating to this qualifier that would help another driver to improve on his/her final lap time. By taking part in this qualifier you agree to this very strict ruling."

We were talking about MR cars in general and using the wheel, the Ford GT is a particular problem for me with its monstrous lift-off oversteer.

 

[Stotty]

Nothing to see here.

 

[Fuzzy]

(Replay Required For Verification).How many days do we have to post it ?

 

[Sphinx]

(Replay Required For Verification).How many days do we have to post it ?

I'm just preparing to request the replays. All will be clear soon.

 

[Fuzzy]

Right ok no problem 👍

 

[Soundtrack]

Nothing to see here.

Details are sketchy, but apparently a young and promising Finn Racer waving his hands in the middle of the road has been unfortunately hit by an Australian Tuner in the middle of a free practice session. The driver may have been under alcohol influence has we understand and report his statement to the police: “ Hell, I'm still not used to drive a car which has a wheel...”

More breaking news in a latter edition!

 

[Timppaq]

I suspect I'll be in division 2 very soon, I just did a few muck around laps on the qualifier race now I have a wheel (and I'm talking 5 laps tops), and already I've beaten my previous (controller set, hard worked on) time by 0.6sec!
I do have big problems with correcting mistakes still though with the wheel, mainly with the MR cars, I should probably left foot brake them to avoid liff-off oversteer, otherwise div.2 here I come!

We were talking about MR cars in general and using the wheel, the Ford GT is a particular problem for me with its monstrous lift-off oversteer.

Ah, sorry.

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Details are sketchy, but apparently a young and promising Finn Racer waving his hands in the middle of the road has been unfortunately hit by an Australian Tuner in the middle of a free practice session. The driver may have been under alcohol influence has we understand and report his statement to the police: “ Hell, I'm still not used to drive a car which has a wheel...”

More breaking news in a latter edition!

You just made my day good sir.

Ah, sorry.

You made the wrong part blue.

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Yeah, something I'd require left foot braking for.

You would require to use your left foot on the brake but I'm not talking about left foot braking as such - where you hold the throttle whilst applying brakes. I'm talking about coming right off the throttle for braking then feathering in the throttle as you come off the brakes. Now that I think of it it's actually the exact opposite of left foot braking as I understand it

 

[Stotty]

You would require to use your left foot on the brake but I'm not talking about left foot braking as such - where you hold the throttle whilst applying brakes. I'm talking about coming right off the throttle for braking then feathering in the throttle as you come off the brakes. Now that I think of it it's actually the exact opposite of left foot braking as I understand it

Real left foot braking is braking at the same time as applying the throttle - and it's not actually possible in GT5P as when you brake the power is cut.

But what you describe is exactly managing the same route casue... when you come off the power and brake the weight shifts forward unloading the rear. This is fine in a straight line, but causes problems if you're turning at the same time. The weight distribution of MR cars makes them want to turn faster if the rear is unloaded (they have a high polar moment of inertia) - which turns in to a spin if not corrected. So what you're doing by having a bit of throttle on as you come off the brakes and turn in is balancing the weight distribution by ensuring some weight is moved to the rear of the car.

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

Real left foot braking is braking at the same time as applying the throttle - and it's not actually possible in GT5P as when you brake the power is cut.

Are you certain of that - I'm sure I've used laft foot braking in some of the vettes and vipers?

But what you describe is trying to manage the same route casue... when you come off the brakes the weight shifts forward unloading the rear,

again - are you sure? I'd have thought the weight would shift back when you come off the brakes - it goes forward when you step on them but when you let off doesn't the weight spring back?

 

[Stotty]

Are you certain of that - I'm sure I've used laft foot braking in some of the vettes and vipers?



again - are you sure? I'd have thought the weight would shift back when you come off the brakes - it goes forward when you step on them but when you let off doesn't the weight spring back?

Re-read post - I accidentally pressed submit before I'd finished it and proof read it

But yes to the first question - 99.9% sure in GT5P that you cannot have power and brakes applied at the same time - brakes have priority. Just try driving in a straight line on full power and apply a bit of brakes.

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

But yes to the first question - 99.9% sure in GT5P that you cannot have power and brakes applied at the same time - brakes have priority. Just try driving in a straight line on full power and apply a bit of brakes.

You using a wheel or sixaxis?

 

[Stotty]

you using a wheel or sixaxis?

g25

 

[spyrrari]

i use left foot braking all the time when power is applied....use dfgt wheel....so,sorry Stotty,you're wrong there mate.........
i also used it in gt4 with dfp wheel...

spyrrari.

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

g25

Frankly I'm gobsmacked! I'm sure I would have noticed this before now. So if you press the brakes the throttle is cut? Is it proportional to how much brake you apply or does it just totally kill the input?

 

[Palleraa]

i use left foot braking all the time when power is applied....use dfgt wheel....so,sorry Stotty,you're wrong there mate.........
i also used it in gt4 with dfp wheel...

spyrrari.

+1

I use this alot going through the esses at Suzuka in the GT LM. Also I used it when I played with the "no-abs" thing in the Viper. Going full brake and full throttle creates alot of lovely smoke spinning the rear wheels while the front wheels are locked

/PalleRaa

 

[Maffski]

Must admit I always left foot brake to control the attitude of the car rather than just to slow down, I'd go so far as to say its critical. When I make a tune I always set it up tail happy with brake bias heavily forward for that very reason.

 

[P3nT4gR4m]

So we're in agreement then, there's something wrong with Stotty's Pedals?

 

[Stotty]

Hmmmm.... I'm seldom wrong Must go and have another look tonight!!

Sure I tried the brake applied burn out before and it didn't work!

 

[spyrrari]

stotty,maybe you pressed the clutch aswell as you were braking...lol...(just joking mate..)


spyrrari.

 

[Stotty]

stotty,maybe you pressed the clutch aswell as you were braking...lol...(just joking mate..)


spyrrari.

I do have big feet

 

[Jump_Ace]

I have a G25 and use my right foot for both gas and brake so I can't left foot brake . Do you guys think its any faster to left foot brake or dependent upon how you drive? Would it be worth getting a DFGT especially since I can't use the clutch anyway???

Jerome

 

[Maffski]

Wierd, if you can't left foot brake on G25 then a DFGT won't be any different apart from you'd have to put up with plastic pedals.