GTP_Registry Discussion Thread

[Special 1]

Hello guys, I have a small problem. I am trying to compare my sector times using the live timing option but for some reason none of my sector times even show up, is this option working for anybody else or is it just broken?

 

[PASM]

Hello guys, I have a small problem. I am trying to compare my sector times using the live timing option but for some reason none of my sector times even show up, is this option working for anybody else or is it just broken?

We've been using the replay in a different manner to work around that problem. You need to view the car instead, bring up the HUD instruments and pause the replay. Then use the arrow to go to the first split and note the time on the screen. Do the same for the second, etc. 👍

 

[Special 1]

We've been using the replay in a different manner to work around that problem. You need to view the car instead, bring up the HUD instruments and pause the replay. Then use the arrow to go to the first split and note the time on the screen. Do the same for the second, etc. 👍

I think I get what you mean, in other words use the fast forward feature while viewing the live timing, it seems to come up with split times. Is this the correct method until maybe it gets fixed?

 

[PASM]

I think I get what you mean, in other words use the fast forward feature while viewing the live timing, it seems to come up with split times. Is this the correct method until maybe it gets fixed?

Yes, fast forward. That is what we've been using. I hope we get proper splits in the timing screen soon.

 

[Special 1]

Yes, fast forward. That is what we've been using. I hope we get proper splits in the timing screen soon.

Thanks for the help, fairly happy with the time I have, been putting an hour or so in to the first one for a few days now, may as well move on to Brands Hatch.


Update:

Been running Brands Hatch for a few hours now but am struggling when it comes to consistency around here, will probably run it for a couple more hours later on tonight then submit both my times. I wasn't expecting to have the afternoon free to do this so that was a bonus, I thought I would have had to fit it all in around work doing maybe an hour here and there. Nice to actually have a decent amount of time to run these combos.

 

[Special 1]

I have just submitted my qualifier, just need to be patient and wait now. I struggled to get the time I was after and fell a couple of tenths shy in the end. Found it hard going trying to keep the momentum and avoid contact with the grass, just clipping the grass most of the time was enough to lose control around Brands Hatch. These were the reasons those extra couple of tenths I was after were unable to be found, a bit of a shame, but a sacrifice I was willing to take as the frustration was starting to show with the grass winning the battle in the end

Happy enough with my effort though and can't wait to get started

 

[anastasis14]

Guess what my friends gifted me for my birthday

 

[GTP_Dutchy]

Hey guys,

I was just wondering how much time you guys put in to the time trials on average? I practiced both tracks for about an hour and I am not satisfied with results just yet so I will put in more time. I just can't seem to get all the pieces in the right place in the one lap. But I guess that is what makes it so addictive and fun.

Another question I have is what is the delta between driving with a racing wheel and the DualShock? The hours I put in already I was using the DualShock. But GTP_PASM was so kind to borrow his 2nd racing wheel to me . So next time will be different and that is the reason I want to know the delta so I can tell if I've improved.

Since I am new and am eager to learn a lot could you tell me how I can learn a track in a efficient way. I used to learn with RA line on and get a feel of the track so I can memorize all the corners. Afterwards I would go to youtube and try to search a hotlap on a similar car and learn the real racing line. While on the subject of the racing line if Polyphony Digital decided to put the real racing line I would be so happy! but I guess that takes away the fun of discovering a track and learning to find that extra bit of time.

Although it's a bit of a steep learning curve I enjoy the cars & track combo's very much!!! Can't wait to compete with you guys in whatever TT's or races lay ahead of us!

And of course I want thank Bart(GTP_PASM) for Introducing me and borrowing his wheel 👍

Cheers,

Kevin

 

[Vagabond]

Welcome to WRS 👍

This was for GT5 but you get the idea:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/time-spent-on-a-normal-wrs-week.234861/

And it looks like your method for learning the track is just about spot on 👍

 

[Argon]

...what is the delta between driving with a racing wheel and the DualShock?....

Hi Kevin,

Chris has responded on the other points but as to the delta between DS3 and wheel. If you ask twenty people you will get 20 different answers. From my own experience I have found the transition hard (very hard) and after 8 months of wheel ownership I'm still not as quick as I can be using the DS3 but it depends on the track and the car combination.

GT6 has been a huge boost for me over GT5 especially in the handling and I'm finally seeing consistent gains across the board with my wheel but I doubt I have gained any more than a second a lap (at the very best) on those car/track combos that suit a wheel for me.

One thing that almost everyone agrees on though is that using a wheel really takes the game to another level of enjoyment regardless of your resulting lap times so stick with the wheel if you have the option



edit: and welcome to the WRS

 

[GTP_Dutchy]

Hi Kevin,

Chris has responded on the other points but as to the delta between DS3 and wheel. If you ask twenty people you will get 20 different answers. From my own experience I have found the transition hard (very hard) and after 8 months of wheel ownership I'm still not as quick as I can be using the DS3 but it depends on the track and the car combination.

GT6 has been a huge boost for me over GT5 especially in the handling and I'm finally seeing consistent gains across the board with my wheel but I doubt I have gained any more than a second a lap (at the very best) on those car/track combos that suit a wheel for me.

One thing that almost everyone agrees on though is that using a wheel really takes the game to another level of enjoyment regardless of your resulting lap times so stick with the wheel if you have the option



edit: and welcome to the WRS

Hey Argon,

First of all thank you very much for you answer. From my point of view I think that a wheel could be a big improvement for me because I have great difficulty taming MR beasts in GT6 almost everyone of them is trying to murder me in every corner they have to go through. The other day I was at Barts place racing with his wheel and I instantly felt improvement on that part because when the car began to oversteer I was able to adjust it more accurately. I think this is because a wheel is able to steer swifter and has greater precision than the stick on the DS also with a wheel your able to turn it a greater distance while the sticks are limit to turn only about 4 to 5 cm so it's easier to screw up and its limiting my capabillities to turn in gently. So following my theory I think and shamefully looking at my replays I think I must be able to knock a second and a half of.

With that in mind. I'm not a very experienced driver like yourself and I din't get used to driving with the controller so for me it will be a smaller step. Thereby I think this is the right time to start with a racing wheel first an fore most the fun and experience like you mentioned. the second reason is. I am not used to the new physics in GT6 so it's best to learn from the beginning. The last reason is I want to take the game more seriously and play it at it's full potential and try to improve my skills. Where as when i was playing gt5 I was a more casual gamer but then I joined the a kartclub and this really gave me a whole other point of view!

But before I really drift off-topic. I hope the GT6 and wheel combo will give me the same as it did to you! Thank you for your comment it was an eye opener as in my point of view I thought that everybody would instantaneously be faster when they made the transfer to the racing wheel.

Cheers,

Kevin

 

[Thematic]

The other day I was at Barts place racing with his wheel and I instantly felt improvement on that part because when the car began to oversteer I was able to adjust it more accurately.

I noticed that with a powered wheel, counters can be done with a quick let-go: the wheel will jolt just the right amount, and will do so quickly enough (mine does). With a little adjustment afterwards perhaps.

 

[PASM]

Hey Argon,

First of all thank you very much for you answer. From my point of view I think that a wheel could be a big improvement for me because I have great difficulty taming MR beasts in GT6 almost everyone of them is trying to murder me in every corner they have to go through. The other day I was at Barts place racing with his wheel and I instantly felt improvement on that part because when the car began to oversteer I was able to adjust it more accurately. I think this is because a wheel is able to steer swifter and has greater precision than the stick on the DS also with a wheel your able to turn it a greater distance while the sticks are limit to turn only about 4 to 5 cm so it's easier to screw up and its limiting my capabillities to turn in gently. So following my theory I think and shamefully looking at my replays I think I must be able to knock a second and a half of.

With that in mind. I'm not a very experienced driver like yourself and I din't get used to driving with the controller so for me it will be a smaller step. Thereby I think this is the right time to start with a racing wheel first an fore most the fun and experience like you mentioned. the second reason is. I am not used to the new physics in GT6 so it's best to learn from the beginning. The last reason is I want to take the game more seriously and play it at it's full potential and try to improve my skills. Where as when i was playing gt5 I was a more casual gamer but then I joined the a kartclub and this really gave me a whole other point of view!

But before I really drift off-topic. I hope the GT6 and wheel combo will give me the same as it did to you! Thank you for your comment it was an eye opener as in my point of view I thought that everybody would instantaneously be faster when then made the transfer to the racing wheel.

Cheers,

Kevin

Thinking about this topic I remember the time when my good friend Maz traded his Sixaxis for a G25 a couple of years ago. https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/sixaxis-to-g25-1-year.115679/

It's a gem of a thread, there are a lot of updates along the way and it gives you a sense of the time it takes for a good player to adapt to a wheel. Of course, every person is different and you may adapt quicker because of the early stage in the game. There are also good tips from other drivers in there as well.

 

[KlubbinJay]

Im curious how to send my replay-vid to you after i qualified my submission with the Renault Megane Trophy and the M3 Motorsports. I really want to join the GTP-leaderboards...but i dont know exactly what to do, there is too much information at GTPlanet about it that i forgot really what to do, how to start and with wich car.

Please let know and explain me how it exactly works!

Regards, Jay

 

[Gravitron]

Watch this vid:





Index:

@0:52 - Step 1: Register with GTPlanet
@1:07 - Step 2: Choosing your PSN name
@2:02 - Step 3: Running the events & Saving Replays
@7:11 - Step 4: Exporting Replays (PS3 part)
@9:36 - Step 4: Exporting Replays (PC part)
@10:25 - Step 5: Submitting your Qualifier

 

[KlubbinJay]

Thanks! Ohhww btw i replied your message on PSN

 

[Jump_Ace]

I think I'm happy with the BMW time. I just started the Megane and wow, is this tough 👍


Jerome

 

[Barra333]

Just be careful not to understeer onto the grass in that section between the first and last corners. I had all sorts of trouble there.

 

[mugli]

hello, i understand that people should not discuss times and sectors. I have no problem with that if it's required.
But I just would like to understand why? is there a explanation for me to understand what influence it has on the whole knowing the times of the players? I mean, from my point of view it would only make it more transparent to see in which place one has been classified. Am I wrong?

 

[Vagabond]

hello, i understand that people should not discuss times and sectors. I have no problem with that if it's required.
But I just would like to understand why? is there a explanation for me to understand what influence it has on the whole knowing the times of the players? I mean, from my point of view it would only make it more transparent to see in which place one has been classified. Am I wrong?

Its supposed to be a blind test of your ability in which you are only measuring your pace against yourself. It also keeps the divisional cut-offs secret so no-one has any foreknowledge of where they will end up. If you had prior knowledge of times and cut-offs, the temptation is there to put in a disproportionate amount of time to get that extra 0.2 (for example) that would put you in a division higher or above someone you see as a direct competitor.

 

[Jump_Ace]

Times submitted, the more time I spent at Willow, the more I wanted to drive the BMW, haha. A good challenge for sure, but in all honesty I'm better at counter-steering oversteer than anything understeer related.


Jerome

 

[mugli]

ok, thank you for your quick answer. Even if I don't agree completely, only partially, I can understand your point of view.

The thing is, everyone may take more or less time to make his best qualifier, no matter if you are aware of other times or not. So 2 equivalent times will be the result of a 2 weeks effort for the one, and a 2 months effort for the other one. So the 2 weeks qualifier is in fact the best of the 2. (ok, if you have a certain target, you will insist automatically, i know. but differences will always stay there)

In the race, you won't have the possibility to practise for so long, so the "2 months qualifier" will have problems reaching the "2 weeks qualifier"'s performance.

That's to say, for me personally, it would have been important to maintain transparency (as differences between efforts will be there one way or the other) but ok, that's a choice to make and depends on who's taking the decision. I accept that and have no problem about it.

Thank you again
Hope my english is understandable )

 

[Vagabond]

I hear that but our hope, as we actively encourage, is that people will only spend a similar amount of time running the qualifier as they would usually spend in a weekly event, the only difference being that there is no target to shoot at. Its a similar principle to the one employed in the weekly events, where the last sector or 2 are an unknown, so that element of mystery remains until the results are announced.

 

[Napalm_LT]

ok, thank you for your quick answer. Even if I don't agree completely, only partially, I can understand your point of view.

The thing is, everyone may take more or less time to make his best qualifier, no matter if you are aware of other times or not. So 2 equivalent times will be the result of a 2 weeks effort for the one, and a 2 months effort for the other one. So the 2 weeks qualifier is in fact the best of the 2. (ok, if you have a certain target, you will insist automatically, i know. but differences will always stay there)

In the race, you won't have the possibility to practise for so long, so the "2 months qualifier" will have problems reaching the "2 weeks qualifier"'s performance.

That's to say, for me personally, it would have been important to maintain transparency (as differences between efforts will be there one way or the other) but ok, that's a choice to make and depends on who's taking the decision. I accept that and have no problem about it.

Thank you again
Hope my english is understandable )

What is the reason for two month qualifier if you left the last in this division in every TT or online race? For me it would be a big a shame if I were D2 for egz., but allways run like D4. If you qualified to D4, but your TT will be good enaught, you will be promoted to your real speed.

 

[mugli]

I hear that but our hope, as we actively encourage, is that people will only spend a similar amount of time running the qualifier as they would usually spend in a weekly event, the only difference being that there is no target to shoot at. Its a similar principle to the one employed in the weekly events, where the last sector or 2 are an unknown, so that element of mystery remains until the results are announced.

Ok, I understand your hope. Thank you for your explanation

 

[mugli]

What is the reason for two month qualifier if you left the last in this division in every TT or online race? For me it would be a big a shame if I were D2 for egz., but allways run like D4. If you qualified to D4, but your TT will be good enaught, you will be promoted to your real speed.

The reason would be: not having enough time due to work

In other words, I should give a worse time than the one I have now, it's better to drive in D4 probably

Only thought the promotion would not be systematique and one would have to do one's best from the beginning (time of qualifier) as the classification would only be made once.

That's ok for me , thanks all!

 

[Thematic]

Sure, if the expectation is to likely skip several TTs, it can be desirable to get the qualifier especially good. I wanted to be on time for the first round so I had sadly very little time for it.

 

[hedheed]

Hi I'm new to wrs and I'm trying to submit my qualifier times. Followed the instructions and got this reply from the fetchbot:

Your replay hedheed_brands-hatch.zip contravenes the regulations for this event.

Contact the staff before submitting again so you know which setting contravenes the regulations.

You have one attempt remaining to submit a valid replay, so make sure it's valid when submitting again.

Can anyone tell me why this is? Also when I re-submit I send both again I take it?

 

[Gravitron]

Hi I'm new to wrs and I'm trying to submit my qualifier times. Followed the instructions and got this reply from the fetchbot:

Your replay hedheed_brands-hatch.zip contravenes the regulations for this event.

Contact the staff before submitting again so you know which setting contravenes the regulations.

You have one attempt remaining to submit a valid replay, so make sure it's valid when submitting again.

Can anyone tell me why this is? Also when I re-submit I send both again I take it?

I'll send you a PM.

 

[Gameratwork99]

Hi, new to wrs! I have a problem though...

I've submitted my replay's with the correct message format and as far as I can see, they are squeeky clean. The qualifier thread says something like this "once submitted, you will recieve and automated reply within 15 mins" yet after about 5 hours, I haven't gotten any reply whatsoever. I'm very confused!

Any support will be appreciated!