GTRA | RSeat WSGTC S3 | Main Thread

  • Thread starter Masi_23
  • 4,535 comments
  • 203,606 views
Status
Not open for further replies.
Thanks guys.
Just to say, when I switched to the NTSC, it was on the understanding that if the pal races were put back by 1 hour then I would switch back.
That is the message that I traded with masi when I switched in early December.
👍 :bowdown:
 
No problem starting later here, if it is tricky for anyone it may only need to be half hour for Twisted especially if he can get himself into the room ready before he has to pop out of the house 👍
 
Does anyone fancy some practice today/later at Fuji (I think that's the circuit for Round 1?)

I'll be on this evening for a practice this evening. Hope to meet you there for some hotlaping and maybe funracing.

Just looked at the following from S2. I think i got the data correct. There were two guys superlap in a league of its own:

Tony: 1:42.210, Garaiya w 352hp (335 now)
Moleman: 1:42.353, Subaru w 361hp (335 now)

Given the lesser hp this season, maybe we'll see a high 1:42 but it will not easy for sure.
 
I do want everyone to know the first race of the NTSC gt500 class started very good and the formation lap was as good as it get. Except a little lag. So the whole night was not bad. Race 2 is where real problems arose.

All in all as a group well grow and learn. Hopefully patience and respect of others will come with that.

I'll jump on for practice soon.
 
Last edited:
I do want everyone to know the first race of the NTSC gt500 class started very good and the formation lap was as good as it get. Except a little lag. So the whole night was not bad. Race 2 is where real problems arose.

All in all as a group well grow and learn. Hopefully patience and respect of others will come with that.

I'll jump on for practice soon.

Well put, and I agree with Will, as I had a great race. The nice thing about being as slow as I am is not worrying about smashing into people so much :) However, for me the steepest learning curve has been the difference in braking when you're on your own in clean air vs following someone into a corner, and the different dynamics racing a real human other than AI. It seems much more pronounced online. (At least to me. I try to avoid racing online at all costs as I have found very few rooms or people to race with that aren't some knucklehead in an X1 or Tank Car out to smash everyone to bits, running their own "reverse" course, or under the impression that the newest Need For Speed has had the name changed to 'Gran Turismo 5: Online DeathMatch')

Anyhow, I think race one went well, and I do apologize to Reigerb, with whom I had some good racing moments, but may have gotten a bit overzealous defending/ regaining positions.

As had been said before, the purpose of these preseason races are to work out kinks and get everyone into the flow. When the season starts, if you have a beef, PM a steward and penalties will be handed out where necessary. Better yet, PM the person with whom you have an issue instead of airing it in front of the whole forum. I am content to trust in the stewards' discretion and our own ability to police our ranks, and am a little disappointed in the ugliness on the forums earlier. However, it is racing, and even if it's simulated we can get fired up :nervous:

Here's to a good season, and let's all HAVE FUN :sly:
 
I'll be on this evening for a practice this evening. Hope to meet you there for some hotlaping and maybe funracing.

Cool, sounds good. I'll jump online in about an hour or so, got to sort dinner etc first. 👍

I hate this circuit, kills me that we have to do Fuji first every season :lol: - can never get into a rhythm so I expect to be slow here. Tbh the flying lap I did last season was insane in comparison to my regular pace, was a perfect lap for me - to be within a tenth of Tony at Fuji was fantastic, but he blew me away in the race as I expected. :sly:

However, I am hoping the Garaiya is more on the pace here... because to be fair, I spent 5 hours doing setup work for the Garaiya at GP/F and was still 1 second slower than the very first flying lap I did in both the Impreza and RX7, with zero setup work, was extremely disappointed with that. I can only judge on the times I personally do in each car, so it'd be nice to know if others have found the same - or not!
 
Was about to say i would quit WSGTC Champ because of the 8pm GMT timeslot but i can race the whole seasOn if yOu guys plan to switch to 9pm gmt! :)
 
The issue about people going to tuning menu in between the feature and sprint race might have to do with cars not being fully broken in and some without fresh oil. That's what happened with my dad. I promise I'll have a talk with my dad and I'm sure he'll get all the rules, procedures, etc right!

I have noticed NTSC is mostly consisted of unexperienced drivers and that hurts the organization. But hopefully over the time we will all be familiar with the whole series and most importantly be able to trust each other on the track! :)

Again, I say we do one more preason race. Just to be safe. But hey it's up to you guys.
 
The issue about people going to tuning menu in between the feature and sprint race might have to do with cars not being fully broken in and some without fresh oil. That's what happened with my dad. I promise I'll have a talk with my dad and I'm sure he'll get all the rules, procedures, etc right!

I have noticed NTSC is mostly consisted of unexperienced drivers and that hurts the organization. But hopefully over the time we will all be familiar with the whole series and most importantly be able to trust each other on the track! :)

Again, I say we do one more preason race. Just to be safe. But hey it's up to you guys.

We probably don't need anymore preraces.

And your statement of NTSC is not what happened and you know it. I love how you dumb it down. I had very little problem and I may be inexperienced with wsgtc but not with racing online and in packs. Most are probably comfortable. I saw moves from experienced drivers that were questionable. maybe statements you spit out are what hurts the organization. Be positive and support the rest.
 
We probably don't need anymore preraces.

And your statement of NTSC is not what happened and you know it. I love how you dumb it down. I had very little problem and I may be inexperienced with wsgtc but not with racing online and in packs. Most are probably comfortable. I saw moves from experienced drivers that were questionable. maybe statements you spit out are what hurts the organization. Be positive and support the rest.

This^ X's 1000

:cheers:
 
NEPALII
The issue about people going to tuning menu in between the feature and sprint race might have to do with cars not being fully broken in and some without fresh oil. That's what happened with my dad. I promise I'll have a talk with my dad and I'm sure he'll get all the rules, procedures, etc right!

I have noticed NTSC is mostly consisted of unexperienced drivers and that hurts the organization. But hopefully over the time we will all be familiar with the whole series and most importantly be able to trust each other on the track! :)

Again, I say we do one more preason race. Just to be safe. But hey it's up to you guys.

Nothing can be achieved by going into settings other than adding pp, whether the car is broken in or not is irrelevant, you just don't go in there, period!
 
Nothing can be achieved by going into settings other than adding pp, whether the car is broken in or not is irrelevant, you just don't go in there, period!

Actually it does matter in the Sprint race. If someone's car isn't fully broken in and gains HP after the Feature race, they can be over the PP limit so that they can't go back on track for the Sprint. This happened in PAL GT500 so I had to allow people to go into settings and then do PP checks again before the Sprint.
 
biffy
actually it does matter in the sprint race. If someone's car isn't fully broken in and gains hp after the feature race, they can be over the pp limit so that they can't go back on track for the sprint. This happened in pal gt500 so i had to allow people to go into settings and then do pp checks again before the sprint.

+1.
 
Actually it does matter in the Sprint race. If someone's car isn't fully broken in and gains HP after the Feature race, they can be over the PP limit so that they can't go back on track for the Sprint. This happened in PAL GT500 so I had to allow people to go into settings and then do PP checks again before the Sprint.

Someone who knows what to say!!
 
Was about to say i would quit WSGTC Champ because of the 8pm GMT timeslot but i can race the whole seasOn if yOu guys plan to switch to 9pm gmt! :)

This is even more reason to push the race an hour later 👍.
 
We probably don't need anymore preraces.

And your statement of NTSC is not what happened and you know it. I love how you dumb it down. I had very little problem and I may be inexperienced with wsgtc but not with racing online and in packs. Most are probably comfortable. I saw moves from experienced drivers that were questionable. maybe statements you spit out are what hurts the organization. Be positive and support the rest.

I raced PAL and I watched NTSC. NTSC took longer to start, and formation lap as well as the race had some problems. Not pointing the finger to anyone in particular, just saying things aren't as smooth as I had hoped. How am I hurting the organization? lol that's funny
 
As of twisted's dilemma, I would like to see him racing in PAL again, but even though we raced at 9pm last season, I could see myself having trouble with time as it gets later, especially with the weather races which is, as people who raced at Nurburgring 24 last season can testify, because of how much longer an outpour of rain can make the race last. 8:30pm would be a good compromise.
 
It went smoother that's great! Now let's take some lessons and move forward in having all classes run seemless. Sound like a good idea. This is me being positive. Please do the same.
 
Biffy
As of twisted's dilemma, I would like to see him racing in PAL again, but even though we raced at 9pm last season, I could see myself having trouble with time as it gets later, especially with the weather races which is, as people who raced at Nurburgring 24 last season can testify, because of how much longer an outpour of rain can make the race last. 8:30pm would be a good compromise.

That would be awesome.
I have a question though. With the online bug and limiting races to 12 cars, are we still having mixed class races or is it all same class until we get a fix?
8-30pm green flag would rock 👍
 
That would be awesome.
I have a question though. With the online bug and limiting races to 12 cars, are we still having mixed class races or is it all same class until we get a fix?
8-30pm green flag would rock 👍

I saw CSL (I think) reply to a similar question earlier in the thread, and I'll say pretty much the same thing. It is only one less car in each class, so I don't think it will make a major difference and I think we should stay with Mixed Class.
 
I saw CSL (I think) reply to a similar question earlier in the thread, and I'll say pretty much the same thing. It is only one less car in each class, so I don't think it will make a major difference and I think we should stay with Mixed Class.

sounds good to me 👍
 
Biffy
Actually it does matter in the Sprint race. If someone's car isn't fully broken in and gains HP after the Feature race, they can be over the PP limit so that they can't go back on track for the Sprint. This happened in PAL GT500 so I had to allow people to go into settings and then do PP checks again before the Sprint.

Yes this is true but what actually happened was that the driver who went into the settings, he's car failed the PP check after he had gone into the settings. Hint hint nudge nudge.

After the race I went to do an oil change and my car was down 11 hp. So I raced the sprint race under the PP. and so would many other people except for the 2 drivers who went into the setting, which 1 of them won the sprint race and the other failed the PP regulation check.
 
Yawn.

Some testing (by myself :() of GT300 at Fuji with S3 specs tonight. As Johan suggests, a high 1:42 could be possible but would have to be an amazing lap imho. I can do 1:43.2s in the Subaru and RX7, 1:43.6s in the Garaiya. So it is much closer here, it's very encouraging, I'm happy. The RX7 however has a noticeable advantage on top speed - 153mph is the max for the Garaiya down the straight; but it's 156/7mph for either of the RX7s. That's too much in my opinion. The 08 Subaru maybe has a slight advantage in terms of one lap pace, purely on the pull out of corners, but it is going to shred its front tyres without a doubt I think. I didn't test the MR-S, IS350 or Celica.
 
Yawn.

Some testing (by myself :() of GT300 at Fuji with S3 specs tonight. As Johan suggests, a high 1:42 could be possible but would have to be an amazing lap imho. I can do 1:43.2s in the Subaru and RX7, 1:43.6s in the Garaiya. So it is much closer here, it's very encouraging, I'm happy. The RX7 however has a noticeable advantage on top speed - 153mph is the max for the Garaiya down the straight; but it's 156/7mph for either of the RX7s. That's too much in my opinion. The 08 Subaru maybe has a slight advantage in terms of one lap pace, purely on the pull out of corners, but it is going to shred its front tyres without a doubt I think. I didn't test the MR-S, IS350 or Celica.

lol well done mole haha, I would of joined but had some fun in an rx7 hehe
 
Someone who knows what to say!!

You can NOT enter the settings menu between races! Period!

Also, you can't set your powerlimiter to any other % than listed in the car specs sheet. If your car is not fully broken in, it's your problem. You can not skip the use of the powerlimiter just because your car is not fully broken in.

What one should do prior every race is to MAKE SURE the powerlimiter is set to EXACTLY what the car specs sheet say. That your bhp ia accurate (As long as your engine is fully broken in), and that you do not have a not allowed mod installed.
If you just do this, you'll never have to worry about your car not fitting the regulations.

To make up for a non broken in car with less/none powerlimiter than stated in the car specs sheet is strictly prohibited.
Make sure to run your car in! If not, tough luck..

Short: If your car is allowed a power limiter at: 96,3%, you can't exeed that percentage number just because your car is not fully broken in.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back