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Israel - Palestine discussion thread
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Ones should told Hamas that one missle from them are 100 missles from Israel.
Though to be fair Israel shouldn't attack recklessly (they pointed to civilians for gods sake). Hell, even freaking America can hunt Osama without having an attack like that (minus the torture, sorry). Main reason why UN sided for Palestinians.
Its safe to say that both is not so different. Palestinians has Hamas, while Israel has some conservatives (Killing of 3 Palestinians, Illegal occupation, etc).
Just hope for the best for both of countries.
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Source? This is what I found. It states the UN and US consider it occupied territory, yet there isn't an explanation why. Though there is this interesting little bit down at the bottom...
And I'll be treated like a racists :censored:hole, but I really do hope that ISIS knock at Israel door and slaughter the crap out of Israel government.
This is far beyond ridiculous, it started with the kidnapping of Palestinian teen protesters near the border with Israel, then Hamas retaliated by kidnapping 3 Israeli youths, then the Palestinian kids got killed, then Hamas retailed by killing them and sending rockets (killing 5), then Israel retailed by invading (once again) and killing +200, adding to non stopping air-strikes.
I can sympathize with Israelis up to certain point, but watching commoners taking beach seats just observe the rockets falling on civilians and organizing groups just to make a propaganda fanfare of these bombings is far beyond ridiculous, just knowing that the general population support this kind of behaviour is truly disgusting, local Israelis don't support this (even if they have relatives in Tel Aviv), ****ing humanitarian organizations are condemning this and western media just portraits Israel as the injured party, while in true the only aggressors are the Israelis themselves (Israelis, not even their government, they themselves are fuelling this).
Israel needs to burn, I sound like an extremist but since the Yom Kippur War they have acted like as the aggressors, with the support of the UN and western states, the soviet union and Saddam are long gone, so is the former Egyptian government, fundamentalist and extremist had a breaking point of tolerance which was surpassed when Osama bin laden had the resources to fund and fuel the Jihad, Iran doesn't like them, neither Syrian rebels or Al Qaeda, they are surrounded by enemies, and things are reaching a point in which not even the US will intervene.
In this kind of cases war should be asymmetrical, it isn't the case at all times but this kind of conflicts it should be that way, IDF has enough military resources to track down Hamas rebels and eliminate them in a controlled manner, instead they bomb the crap out of Gaza with no other reason just to watch them burn.
US and NATO need to steer away from this, a retaliation for this in a far bigger scale is imminent.
Goebbels would be proud Indeed, this is the first time I would cheer for an Islamic attack on Israel, war is reckless and it should be upon them as well.
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A typical day in the Israeli Prime Minister's office. ( Some swearing )
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What is it with this "Western media supports Israel"? We here get to see both sides of the coin. There is no Pro Israel or Pro Palestina news here.
We don't get the gruesome images on the news but we do see the attacks and the aftermath, from both sides.
And as I stated before, the sympathy for Israel is declining, and it's not just the people, our politicians are also quite fed up with the course Israel is going.
We don't get the gruesome images on the news but we do see the attacks and the aftermath, from both sides.
And as I stated before, the sympathy for Israel is declining, and it's not just the people, our politicians are also quite fed up with the course Israel is going.
Yeah, CNN and BBC.......channel known to bias whatever their own countries are on their alliance. Interested to see Fox news though
Interesting thing is that most if not all of my channel here are now being a bit honest about Hamas and as for Palestinians, they choose to see on the humanitarian side. Those who wants to be Hamas "volunteers" are now getting mocked yo.
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No, it's because ISIS are a bunch of savages who get enjoyment from all kinds of sadistic acts, including beheading and stoning people who don't agree with them. Of course, it's extremely illogical from me to stand up against them because "they are people too" or "they're desperate".Yeah because they are soulless animals and not the Injured party here?
Little note. Ones extremists attack does not justify for hundreds of civilians death. Especially when the main reason of attack is to do revenge on other sides offense (kidnapping).
Also worth noting than moments after Israels attack, its PM said they will not stop attacking Palestine. Tommorow after, he suddenly said that he will stop the attack if Hamas also stop the attack (while still attacking Palestine of course).
Also worth noting than moments after Israels attack, its PM said they will not stop attacking Palestine. Tommorow after, he suddenly said that he will stop the attack if Hamas also stop the attack (while still attacking Palestine of course).
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ISIS wont stand a chance against them to be fair.
End of Discussion. This map says enough about who is guilty and who is fighting for freedom.
I rest my case your honour..
I don't have a horse in this race but you can't post something like that and think anyone will take it seriously.
Have you ever thought why those particular dates are used on this map and not other dates?
While Israel says it wants to destroy "Hamas" (while killing many civilians, destroys cities, cutting donations(Costa Concordia), claimed Palestine land if they have chance, once called all arabs (not just Palestinians) are terrorists, and treats non-jews on israel like crap).ISIS wont stand a chance against them to be fair.
End of Discussion. This map says enough about who is guilty and who is fighting for freedom.
I rest my case your honour..
While Hamas wants to destroys Israel (desperate of having their land and supplies cut off). Yes, there are some extremists lunatics out there who thinks their dead bodies are onto heaven for their war or Israel apocalypse thingy, but alas, they highly desperate and after Arab spring, that thought is debunked and now becomes extremely minor even for Hamas itself.
What im trying to say though is, if Israel really wants to fight Hamas, FIGHT HAMAS, dont take their innocent civilians too and then take advantage on it.
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Story of a Gaza ambulance driver:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-hour-shift-with-one-of-Gazas-paramedics.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...-hour-shift-with-one-of-Gazas-paramedics.html
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Can't you see? All these darts are specifically guided to known Hamas fighters in the shelled area, hitting them right between the eyes. they are high tech IDF weapons dude!Kind of belie the Israelis' continued implications that they're operating some sort of sensitive, tight-target war against known hostiles.
Looks like they'll actually take anyone they can get, in my opinion
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And the truth comes out, not with a bang but a whimper..
It makes sense. Israel can only gain from having a fractured Palestinian political presence, and the more they can sway Palestinian opinion against them and towards Hamas, the more legitimacy they have for striking Palestine crying "self defence".
Netanyahu remarkebly laid it all out there a week ago:
The reason?
So with a two state solution impossible, who benefits from brewing extremism no matter the short term damage to international opinion?
It makes sense. Israel can only gain from having a fractured Palestinian political presence, and the more they can sway Palestinian opinion against them and towards Hamas, the more legitimacy they have for striking Palestine crying "self defence".
Netanyahu remarkebly laid it all out there a week ago:
The Times Israel
The reason?
The Times Israel
So with a two state solution impossible, who benefits from brewing extremism no matter the short term damage to international opinion?
Sorry. But any indication that these Israeli government may be corrupt? I cannot believe its goverment is that hypocrite and propagandic to its own people. I thought they claimed "the most open countries on middle east"......well according to them.....
....and America. That's not even an conspiracy anymore. Everyone knows its international minister Kerry is just full of biased crap and Obama doesn't do much but agree to majority of the government.
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Israel, the state created after WW II, is a tremendous historic mistake by the powers at the time. Because it can't be undone, and because it can't be safe. Taking someone's land and giving it to someone else was an "imperial" attitude. And please don't tell me there is such thing as an historic right to that land. Ownership of land is a question of power, and Israel is the greatest example available.
Anyway, and since you can't erase palestinians from the face of the Earth, and since palestinians won't forget their land for the next 2000 years (if the long memory of jews is anything to go by and considering how close both peoples are) Israel has only one way forward: The war of a thousand years. Sad that this may well be Hitler's real legacy to the jewish people.
Anyway, and since you can't erase palestinians from the face of the Earth, and since palestinians won't forget their land for the next 2000 years (if the long memory of jews is anything to go by and considering how close both peoples are) Israel has only one way forward: The war of a thousand years. Sad that this may well be Hitler's real legacy to the jewish people.
