Legendary cars dealer refresh

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This car is way too gorgeous and actually can be made into a great drive, fun and competitive... do not miss this gem, I was going to pass on it but couldn't resist it today, I'm so glad I did, couldn't imagine it would be so great to drive. Must be the sexiest thing to show on my TV ever... look at that!

 
SuperSportX
The F1 GTR is probably the best Gr.3 car atleast in my opinion, it's still slightly OP as it was in GT Sport; though the handling is noticeably more twitchy than the F1 GTR Longtail but that's to be expected with the lesser downforce.

I plan on buying a second one to re-do the 1998 FIA GT Suzuka race with one using JGTC specs and another using 1997 GT2 specs.
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F1 GTR was op when Gr Supra Racing Concept was a thing? Did we even played the same game?
 
Here's hoping that the XJ13 will be discounted to 13m when it eventually returns to the LCD, just like the S Barker was. It's the last car I am missing for the Three Legendary Cars trophy.

I'll also have to shell out about 11m for the invitation-only cars at Brand Central until the 13th of May. And I'll probably prioritze those over the LCD cars as those are guaranteed to return eventually while you never know when you'll get another invitation.

That cash for golding all the Circuit Experiences is running out quick man...
 
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Baka_Marimo
Here's hoping that the XJ13 will be discounted to 13m when it eventually returns to the LCD, just like the S Barker was. It's the last car I am missing for the Three Legendary Cars trophy.

I'll also have to shell out about 11m for the invitation-only cars at Brand Central until the 13th of May. And I'll probably prioritze those over the LCD cars as those are guaranteed to return eventually while you never know when you'll get another invitation.

That cash for golding all the Circuit Experiences is running out quick man...
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But the Jag XJ13 was originally 12M or 13M (I forget). So if they provide a discount, it will be less than you're asking for. Which is good news.
 
Just a caveat to those wanting the Alfa 155. It’s pretty much just thee Gr.4 series car. It’s not a magic bullet to jump in a higher tier and dominate( in the way Gr.3 can dominate Gr.4). It wins all WTC 700 races easily. Have yet to tune it for the lower WTC 600 races.

The only tuning parts are the ballast, power restrictor, fully custom manual & race transmissions. All the tyre compounds, hydraulic handbrake and the steering angle adapter. Remember, it’s an NA machine. The engine performance option is, the Medium-RPM Turbo(good for a bump up to 543 BHP/PP 697; no intercooler options). Nitrous is available. No extra weight reduction.
It’s AWD, but no Torque-Vectoring option.

Doesn’t have New engine or new body option. Might have to look in the swap thread to see if there are any engine options.

Other than that, despite it revving to 12,000 RPM, the engine & exhaust sound isn’t great, but it’s a lovely thing to get the feel of a classic DTM machine, of that era. Loved this car in the GT2 Rome Night test. Great to have a fully rendered model to fling around. Enjoy.
 
Nielsen
That doesn’t disprove the claim that PD may have adjusted the roulette rewards in the economy patch. It’s definitely something they would never announce, as it would only cause another backlash on top of the one they were trying to repair.
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Doesn't disprove what I stated either, in fact, it's actually on you to prove that they adjusted the rewards since again, they didn't say anything, regardless of the circumstances. It's not on me to prove that they didn't change...

Nielsen
Before the update I received around 5,000,000 cr. from my best tickets combined, but after the update I haven’t received anything better than one giving me a KTM X-Bow. The rest have been utterly hopeless. I refuse to believe that’s an extreme shift in luck when it just happened to occur after said patch.
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Bro, you are ONE person. This is luck based. You were simply that lucky to get those prices in that time frame, nothing more, nothing less. In my case, before the update, I probably got a 1 million and a 500k prize once each, and that 1 million came from the 6 star menu ticket, which btw was the only 6 star ticket I've got in the game, and I play it every day since launch.

After the update, for me, nothing changed. Got a VGT from a 5 star ticket and that was it... Some garbage car parts, an invitation that is useless and some 100k, 30k, 10k, 5k and 2k credit prizes.

I collect a multitude of videos of people opening up the roulettes, people make them every day with lots of varied ticket quality (1-6 stars) and some are lucky, others are not. But the combined sample of all of them in the statistics can give us an idea of how much of each prize we can get in the Roulette.
And after just 100 samples, the %s for each prize have barely changed, and I've got over 500 by now.

And so far, it appears to be very accurate. ~85% of the prizes in the Roulettes are valued 100k or below. With a gargantuan near 30% just on the 5k credit prize which is the prize the Roulettes give the most.
 
Grimm6Jack
Doesn't disprove what I stated either, in fact, it's actually on you to prove that they adjusted the rewards since again, they didn't say anything, regardless of the circumstances. It's not on me to prove that they didn't change...


Bro, you are ONE person. This is luck based. You were simply that lucky to get those prices in that time frame, nothing more, nothing less. In my case, before the update, I probably got a 1 million and a 500k prize once each, and that 1 million came from the 6 star menu ticket, which btw was the only 6 star ticket I've got in the game, and I play it every day since launch.

After the update, for me, nothing changed. Got a VGT from a 5 star ticket and that was it... Some garbage car parts, an invitation that is useless and some 100k, 30k, 10k, 5k and 2k credit prizes.

I collect a multitude of videos of people opening up the roulettes, people make them every day with lots of varied ticket quality (1-6 stars) and some are lucky, others are not. But the combined sample of all of them in the statistics can give us an idea of how much of each prize we can get in the Roulette.
And after just 100 samples, the %s for each prize have barely changed, and I've got over 500 by now.

And so far, it appears to be very accurate. ~85% of the prizes in the Roulettes are valued 100k or below. With a gargantuan near 30% just on the 5k credit prize which is the prize the Roulettes give the most.
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Wonder if theres some kind of 'rtp' (Return to Player) built in, so over the long term every player receives roughly the same amount, or if entirely random. Who knows.
 
I really don't know if we're all playing the same game here, or if it really can be, because the impressions and assessments can be so different. The F1 GTR Gr3 Horizontal that is currently for sale is neither OP nor is its price only partially justified. I absolutely adore this car and in GTS I loved it.. adored it.. but here and now the car is a disaster.

1. 10.5 million for a Gr.3 car, the Gr2 model cost considerably less.
2 . The car may be fast, but not sooo much faster than most... here comes a problem. You can only be really fast with a clean entry into a curve, a good middle section and a perfect exit. The F1 isn't really good at any of these points... The brakes are even worse than on the GTS. This causes it to understeer extremely. Then it has a weird grip level for an MR. First it understeers when accelerating in a corner like an RSR and then it oversteers like an M6 before the patch.
3. You will NOT be able to control/mitigate anything about the BB in the BoP race, which will make him more likely to ride at the bottom in most races.

It saddens me how such a car was ruined by PD.. Anyone can test it themselves... Go to race B this week and rent an F1. This car is a total loser at Interlagos...or else I'm totally unable to play this game.
 
xMAXIx79
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3. You will NOT be able to control/mitigate anything about the BB in the BoP race, which will make him more likely to ride at the bottom in most races.
This car is a total loser at Interlagos...or else I'm totally unable to play this game.
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it’s not just you. pretty sure it’s the exit of turn 10 where the F1 will lose control at nearly every TCS, unless you hit the correct seam at the correct pace. I’ve won a few this week and pushed from B to A, and use TCS1 in races for most of the Gr3 fwiw. Cutting the power output and weight of the car with a generic formula ruins a lot of Physics Stuff, and I imagine the weight ratio on the F1 needs adjusting if the total comes down.

I still think it was a wise purchase if you play Sport mode. They will continue to tinker with BoP and PP settings until it’s more balanced… I think next week after the Nations Cup would make sense.

I just feel lucky that I can’t hit consistent times in the Beetle. It’s allowed me to try some other cars out… the ‘99 Nissan isn’t half bad here.
 
NikNakTobasco
I got a million for the 6 star for completing the menu books. I’ve since had one other 6 star which gave me some crap car I’ll never even look at. Aside from that, regardless of the star I always get the worst prize of an exhaust pipe or sofa change.
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Doesn't matter if it's 1 or 4 stars tickets, 99,9999% of the time get I the lowest possible reward which is 2-5-10.000cr. Pointless.
It's embarrassing to see those miserable little coins.


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05XR8
Just a caveat to those wanting the Alfa 155. It’s pretty much just thee Gr.4 series car. It’s not a magic bullet to jump in a higher tier and dominate( in the way Gr.3 can dominate Gr.4). It wins all WTC 700 races easily. Have yet to tune it for the lower WTC 600 races.

The only tuning parts are the ballast, power restrictor, fully custom manual & race transmissions. All the tyre compounds, hydraulic handbrake and the steering angle adapter. Remember, it’s an NA machine. The engine performance option is, the Medium-RPM Turbo(good for a bump up to 543 BHP/PP 697; no intercooler options). Nitrous is available. No extra weight reduction.
It’s AWD, but no Torque-Vectoring option.

Doesn’t have New engine or new body option. Might have to look in the swap thread to see if there are any engine options.

Other than that, despite it revving to 12,000 RPM, the engine & exhaust sound isn’t great, but it’s a lovely thing to get the feel of a classic DTM machine, of that era. Loved this car in the GT2 Rome Night test. Great to have a fully rendered model to fling around. Enjoy.
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I used it in some WTC 600 events and it just wasn't fair on the AI, haha.
 
xMAXIx79
I really don't know if we're all playing the same game here, or if it really can be, because the impressions and assessments can be so different. The F1 GTR Gr3 Horizontal that is currently for sale is neither OP nor is its price only partially justified. I absolutely adore this car and in GTS I loved it.. adored it.. but here and now the car is a disaster.

1. 10.5 million for a Gr.3 car, the Gr2 model cost considerably less.
2 . The car may be fast, but not sooo much faster than most... here comes a problem. You can only be really fast with a clean entry into a curve, a good middle section and a perfect exit. The F1 isn't really good at any of these points... The brakes are even worse than on the GTS. This causes it to understeer extremely. Then it has a weird grip level for an MR. First it understeers when accelerating in a corner like an RSR and then it oversteers like an M6 before the patch.
3. You will NOT be able to control/mitigate anything about the BB in the BoP race, which will make him more likely to ride at the bottom in most races.

It saddens me how such a car was ruined by PD.. Anyone can test it themselves... Go to race B this week and rent an F1. This car is a total loser at Interlagos...or else I'm totally unable to play this game.
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You’re correct. The car is not great, at all. Has moments of greatness - but they don’t last a proper race. Love this car dearly too. Maybe I haven’t invested enough time in it yet, but Lordy. It sucks compared to similar cars.

Not saying it’s not fast. It’s very fast. But it’s just so unrewarding to drive, where the GT2? Version - long tail one is absolutely heaven.

There are some moments where the under steer is completely unexplainable. The car just doesn’t turn and there’s no justification. Except that it’s not actually a car and it’s computer code. Actually that explains everything.
 
xMAXIx79
I really don't know if we're all playing the same game here, or if it really can be, because the impressions and assessments can be so different. The F1 GTR Gr3 Horizontal that is currently for sale is neither OP nor is its price only partially justified. I absolutely adore this car and in GTS I loved it.. adored it.. but here and now the car is a disaster.

1. 10.5 million for a Gr.3 car, the Gr2 model cost considerably less.
2 . The car may be fast, but not sooo much faster than most... here comes a problem. You can only be really fast with a clean entry into a curve, a good middle section and a perfect exit. The F1 isn't really good at any of these points... The brakes are even worse than on the GTS. This causes it to understeer extremely. Then it has a weird grip level for an MR. First it understeers when accelerating in a corner like an RSR and then it oversteers like an M6 before the patch.
3. You will NOT be able to control/mitigate anything about the BB in the BoP race, which will make him more likely to ride at the bottom in most races.

It saddens me how such a car was ruined by PD.. Anyone can test it themselves... Go to race B this week and rent an F1. This car is a total loser at Interlagos...or else I'm totally unable to play this game.
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Yeah, that's also the impression that I got from it. I'm a huge McLaren F1 fan, it's my favorite car ever so I'm definitely a fanboy. But the Gr.3 version seems very underwhelming to me. I only got it when it went on sale in the LCD so I don't know what it was like before 1.13, but it feels very understeery now. This has been the only "modern" race car from the LCD that I've had to extensively tune in order to fix it. As you said, weak on brakes, understeers on entry, and it's a gas hog. I tuned it to be driveable but having to run fuel map 6 and still have to conserve gas completely kills your lap times. And yeah, BoP will take all the tuning out and return it to pig status, but at least you won't have to worry about gas lol.
 
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The car may be fast, but not sooo much faster than most
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permaculture
I just feel lucky that I can’t hit consistent times in the Beetle. It’s allowed me to try some other cars out…
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That being said, what Gr.3 would you guys reccomend for BoP races? Asking for a stable, decently paced, and frugal (tyre/fuel wear) car in general, of course it would vary from track to track.

Seems like the Beetle and both Subarus are the most popular meta cars at the moment. The 911 RSR, Corvette, RCZ and Hyundai also seem like good cars, but I can't fully tell. :confused:

I haven't really had much time to test out these Gr.3s since the 1.13 update came out (where FR Gr.3s got fixed).
The RC F has been my go-to Gr.3 in GTS, mainly for longer races thanks to it's stability. But it clearly isn't among the faster ones in it's class. Now I'm looking for a new 'regular' to take on in GT7 :confused:


Thanks in advance :D
 
xMAXIx79
I really don't know if we're all playing the same game here, or if it really can be, because the impressions and assessments can be so different. The F1 GTR Gr3 Horizontal that is currently for sale is neither OP nor is its price only partially justified. I absolutely adore this car and in GTS I loved it.. adored it.. but here and now the car is a disaster.

1. 10.5 million for a Gr.3 car, the Gr2 model cost considerably less.
2 . The car may be fast, but not sooo much faster than most... here comes a problem. You can only be really fast with a clean entry into a curve, a good middle section and a perfect exit. The F1 isn't really good at any of these points... The brakes are even worse than on the GTS. This causes it to understeer extremely. Then it has a weird grip level for an MR. First it understeers when accelerating in a corner like an RSR and then it oversteers like an M6 before the patch.
3. You will NOT be able to control/mitigate anything about the BB in the BoP race, which will make him more likely to ride at the bottom in most races.

It saddens me how such a car was ruined by PD.. Anyone can test it themselves... Go to race B this week and rent an F1. This car is a total loser at Interlagos...or else I'm totally unable to play this game.
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The thing is rapid, but gosh it had tendencies to lose control when I was doing sardegna 800 15 lapper.

As you need to refuel more in it, compared to usual higher group detuned cars I use, didn't do too well, as I'm not good enough to not spin off at least once. Tcs1, even tried soft tyres, but didn't seem to help.
 
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ebadevil
Yeah, that's also the impression that I got from it. I'm a huge McLaren F1 fan, it's my favorite car ever so I'm definitely a fanboy. But the Gr.3 version seems very underwhelming to me. I only got it when it went on sale in the LCD so I don't know what it was like before 1.13, but it feels very understeery now. This has been the only "modern" race car from the LCD that I've had to extensively tune in order to fix it. As you said, weak on brakes, understeers on entry, and it's a gas hog. I tuned it to be driveable but having to run fuel map 6 and still have to conserve gas completely kills your lap times. And yeah, BoP will take all the tuning out and return it to pig status, but at least you won't have to worry about gas lol.
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Can you share your tune? This car has raw pace to set fastest lap times but I haven’t found a tune that makes it consistently drivable over the course of a race.

Thanks in advance
 
Rillo81
Can you share your tune? This car has raw pace to set fastest lap times but I haven’t found a tune that makes it consistently drivable over the course of a race.

Thanks in advance
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Sure thing. I'm at work now but will send it over in 5-6hrs when I'm back home
 

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