Major Earthquake & Tsunami in Japan

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My best wishes to everyone who has been affected by this.

But I have to say, although the earthquake isn't awesome, that whirlpool is... what could technically cause such a thing?!

As kayaker, I have encountered numerous very small whirlpools. These are generated by tides flowing around and through oddly shaped islets.

I have no acceptable idea why an earthquake would cause such a vortex as that seen off Japan, but there must be reason.
 
It's a good job that they have such good earthquake procedures and well built structures. I'm sure they will recover quickly.
 


Amazing engineering.

I'm feeling anxious about the nuclear reactor situation especially with the cooling system already damaged and after shocks continuing to rumble. The US has flown in help to maintain the cooling system. I'm not familiar with nuclear reactors but isn't there any way to "shut down" the reactor?
 
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A better hypothesis is that the Sun precipitated or triggered the quake, not the Moon.

X1.5 Flare, 3/9/11 2323 UT
Japan 8.9 Quake, 3/11/11 0546 UT

The difference in time will be about the time it takes for a CME to travel to Earth from the Sun.

Note also these volcanoes at the same time:http://www.theweatherspace.com/news/TWS-3_11_2011_threevolcano.html Note that this report mentions the distressing figure of 88,000 souls missing. Let us hope that they are soon found safe.

The Earth has gone for years without an X-class flare. It is reasonable to question the coincidence of two such remarkable events with such a specific timing relationship.
 
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Natural disasters like this are devastating. I will be donating what money I can for relief efforts. Even if I can only spare five dollars.
 
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Amazing engineering.

I'm feeling anxious about the nuclear reactor situation especially with the cooling system already damaged and after shocks continuing to rumble. The US has flown in help to maintain the cooling system. I'm not familiar with nuclear reactors but isn't there any way to "shut down" the reactor?


wow... so many bad stuff going on now in Japan. :nervous:

I just dont know where to start! whish the best of everything to Japan! And hope Help is on the way! :guilty:
 
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2006: Three to four new power supply cars have arrived at the Fukushima-Daiichi nuclear plant in north-eastern Japan to provide emergency electricity for the earthquake-damaged cooling system of one reactor, the World Nuclear Association has said. The power cars are being prepared for connection, the WNA said, citing the Japanese ministry of economy, trade and industry. Other power modules are being flown in.
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2009: The World Nuclear Association said pressure inside the containment of Reactor 1 at Fukushima-Daichi had been steadily increasing over the time that its emergency core cooling systems had not been active. The Tokyo Electric Power Company reported at 0200 local time (1700 GMT) that pressure had increased beyond reference levels, but was within engineered limits, the WNA added.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698
 
This is just like "The Day After Tomorrow". I cant even imagine what it would be like to experience something like this in real life. Especially with as bad as the economy is right now.
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Amazing engineering.

I'm feeling anxious about the nuclear reactor situation especially with the cooling system already damaged and after shocks continuing to rumble. The US has flown in help to maintain the cooling system. I'm not familiar with nuclear reactors but isn't there any way to "shut down" the reactor?


AFAIK the reactors were automatically shut down (SCRAM) as soon as the earthquake happened but just because they're shut off doesn't mean they still don't need to be cooled off still. Maybe someone that knows more about this can explain better, or correct me.
 
AFAIK the reactors were automatically shut down (SCRAM) as soon as the earthquake happened but just because they're shut off doesn't mean they still don't need to be cooled off still. Maybe someone that knows more about this can explain better, or correct me.

Like I mentioned before, the shut down doesn't stop the heat immediately. The already hot stuff heats itself up more and more.

Here's also an interesting article about it (although it doesn't really explain the issue): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12711707
 
Anyone watching the Live CNN feed from Santa Cruz right now? Waves coming in and boats sinking. Another boat trying to leave and keeps getting over powered by the waves, knocking them around. Crazy. :crazy:
 
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2030: The US Coast Guard helicopters are searching for a man who was swept out to sea by powerful waves generated by the tsunami in Northern California, the Associated Press reports. Officials say the man was taking photos of the tsunami with two friends near the mouth of the Klamath river in Del Norte County. The two friends were able to get back to shore.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

Don't want to sound rude but, that's just stupid!
 
Anyone watching the Live CNN feed from Santa Cruz right now? Waves coming in and boats sinking. Another boat trying to leave and keeps getting over powered by the waves, knocking them around. Crazy. :crazy:

Santa Cruz, thats Calafornia!!!!!!!
 
Anyone watching the Live CNN feed from Santa Cruz right now? Waves coming in and boats sinking. Another boat trying to leave and keeps getting over powered by the waves, knocking them around. Crazy. :crazy:

Can you post a link to the live feed please?i was looking for it earlier and could not find it.
 
A better hypothesis is that the Sun precipitated or triggered the quake, not the Moon.

X1.5 Flare, 3/9/11 2323 UT
Japan 8.9 Quake, 3/11/11 0546 UT

The difference in time will be about the time it takes for a CME to travel to Earth from the Sun.

Note also these volcanoes at the same time:http://www.theweatherspace.com/news/TWS-3_11_2011_threevolcano.html Note that this report mentions the distressing figure of 88,000 souls missing. Let us hope that they are soon found safe.

The Earth has gone for years without an X-class flare. It is reasonable to question the coincidence of two such remarkable events with such a specific timing relationship.

I share your hope that many of the missing are found safe, however forlorn a hope it may be in many cases... but otherwise, I can't say I agree with what you're suggesting here.

"The Earth has gone for years without an X-class flare"... except for that X-class flare on February 17th, 2011 of course?

I'm not sure how this is a 'better hypothesis' than the Supermoon idea... frankly, I'm not seeing how either even comes close to boring old plate tectonics.
 
My thoughts and prayers go out to all affected by this disaster. Including the Californian man that was swept out to sea by a tsunami caused by this horrible earthquake!
 
Thanks, I'm watching uk news saying that there is no waves due to hit the USA and it will all be fine while also seeing this unfolding in santa Cruz.

I suppose it could be worse, but we've definitely been hit.
 
I share your hope that many of the missing are found safe, however forlorn a hope it may be in many cases... but otherwise, I can't say I agree with what you're suggesting here.

"The Earth has gone for years without an X-class flare"... except for that X-class flare on February 17th, 2011 of course?

I'm not sure how this is a 'better hypothesis' than the Supermoon idea... frankly, I'm not seeing how either even comes close to boring old plate tectonics.

I was under the impression that the Feb 17th flare was M-Class, but in any case, the Sun is waking up to a new round of activity after many years quiet.

Of course no one is denying that plate tectonics and faults are the basic cause of quakes, but do I hear you saying the Moon's little variations in orbit are equal to CME's in their effects on Earth? Good grief!

I recently read The Sun Kings, a book you should know about and read.
 
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2101: Our correspondent adds: "From there, the waves will roll on towards the Chilean coast, making landfall at about midnight local time (0300 GMT on Saturday). Some patients have been moved from low-lying hospitals and there are plans to evacuate thousands of people from the coast if necessary. The waves should have lost much of their intensity by the time they reach Chile - one expert has predicted they will be no more than 1m higher than normal. But with memories of last year's devastating earthquake and tsunamis still fresh in Chilean minds, the authorities are erring on the side of caution."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12307698

Looks like Chile won't have major issues! 👍
 
Well the bbc have just been telling me that there will be no damage to the USA as it has dissipated all its energy, yet what are we seeing on cnn (or lack of seeing now as it seems to have stoped working for me).

I think the Helicopter had to refuel, but strange that they didn't switch to a ground feed before that.
 
I wouldn't call some smashed boats a major issue though, not after such a catastrophe.
And the one guy missing, well, seems like it kinda was his own fault, there's a reason why the police told everyone not to stay there.
 
Of course no one is denying that plate tectonics and faults are the basic cause of quakes, but do I hear you saying the Moon's little variations in orbit are equal to CME's in their effects on Earth? Good grief!
No, you don't... and I'm not sure how you read that into my post! What I'm saying is, the idea that this earthquake was caused by an X-class solar flare and associated coronal mass ejection is about as convincing as the 'Supermoon' idea mooted earlier in this thread... both hypotheses share a distinct lack of credibility i.e. none whatsoever.
 
No, you don't... and I'm not sure how you read that into my post! What I'm saying is, the idea that this earthquake was caused by an X-class solar flare and associated coronal mass ejection is about as convincing as the 'Supermoon' idea mooted earlier in this thread... both hypotheses share a distinct lack of credibility i.e. none whatsoever.

Sure. But my post clearly stated:"A better hypothesis is that the Sun precipitated or triggered the quake, not the Moon."

This is very different from causing. I know you can see that.
 
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