NASCAR (Stock cars, Craftsman trucks, etc.) in GT5?

[duke_toaster]

NASCRAPS would be cool. If they were in their own championship.

But proper rally and WOO style first

 

[Car_Guy]

Well GT2 attempted to have a nascar in teh game, good ole race modded Tarus, still not teh same though. I would love to have more racing series involved in GT, why not make it all encompasing. Or atleast offer the road coarses, some good Sears point, and watkins glen would fit in the game well. Potentially, even add more to the game and have race teasm approach you to race for them, ie the ringers that some teasm do get fo rthe road coarses, you wouldn't own the car, but you would get paid if you chose to accept the offer, but you would only get offered these opertunities fter so many wins, or after beeting certian races, or even percetn complete, somethign along those lines

 

[mmmsushi]

theres already like 3 threads about nascar on this forum, nascar once again is rednecks that drive around in a circle for 500 laps or some retarded amout of laps or time its one of the most idiotic motorsports, and certainly the most boring of them all.

 

[JohnBM01]

Some of you American Muscle guys may like this post I got here.

I'm playing GT4 while thinking about this thread. At one point, I raced an In-Violet Plymouth Super Bird. What's the significance or relevance? Some of you NASCAR types may recall the "Aero Wars" on ovals like Darlington, Daytona, and Talladega. You would see these long muscle cars with very tall rear spoilers. Examples include the one I just mentioned, the Ford Torino, and even the original Dodge Charger (I'm not a pro at American autos, so correct me if I am wrong on any of this). I think gamers can sort of build their own NASCAR auto like old times. Stock Car Racing is about taking a car from the showroom, build it up to be a weekend warrior, and sell commercial versions on Monday. Of course, that was the old days. I think it would be a nice deal for NASCAR-type fans to build up an old muscle car in a GT game (never mind issues about engine sound or whatever), and tune it up to be an oval track beast. Then take that machine to ovals and smooth road courses. For you GT gamers, you have two tracks NASCAR has raced on in its history- Motegi (a promotional race in 1996), and Sears Point/Infineon Raceway (present).

As far as GT5 with NASCAR-type racing goes, I don't think it will happen. But if there is a community devoted enough to modding up old muscle cars and having fun like the big boys in NASCAR, then NASCAR isn't needed. Hell, some of us can make our own series! It would be even better if online play was included, so that we can race these bad boys like there's no tomorrow against other people.

Part of the magic of GT games is that no matter what kind of racing you like, if there's a type of car or a type of racing you like, if the game doesn't feature it, you can have your own fun modding up a certain car for that certain purpose. I wouldn't like to see a NASCAR-type series in the next GT, but it would be very interesting to see a fantasy racing leauge with these sorts of cars and this sort of racing.

 

[Pebb]

Heck yeah, NASCAR should be in GT5, i dont care who you are, show me a more competitve sport in the WORLD! What other sport can 43 guys all have a legitimate spot at winning, ill tell you, NONE! Give me other racing sport where over 125,000 people come to watch, i can only think of one, the 24 Hours of Le Mans, but that track is huge. BRING ON THE NASCARS!!!!!


Give me a reason to run that oval besides for long-arse drifts, sports cars dont belong on ovals, Stock cars Do!!!!

Have you heard of BTCC its better value for money then Nascar. BTCC is not as boring as Nascar, who wants to see a car go keep going left forever or right forever.

And BTCC has more action in it. And at least people cheer at the BTCC rnds.

 

[Gabkicks]

oval racing has slightly different challenges than circuits with left and right turns. One thing i noticed while playing LFS is that my hands were a bit sore after 10 minutes on a oval with a Formula3000 car, while driving for 3 times as long on a highspeed but technical circuit in a fwd 800kg 250hp race car my hands were fine.

the challenge is to go fast and stay in position to draft and pass on the inside all while trying to stay concentrated on not crashing and or wearing out ur hardware (something easy to do at 180mph+) and all the other guys on the track are trying to do the same thing so there's a bit more blatant passing strategy involved than normal racing.

maybe not nascar but i think different types of ovals should be in the game. 👍

 

[HazGT]

As a Nascar "hater (y0)", I really hope they don't add anything Nascar into GT5. Or any GT game down the road for that matter. I hear EA Sports makes good games, go play Nascar with them.

Yeh NASCAR Sucks,

Heck yeah, NASCAR should be in GT5, i dont care who you are, show me a more competitve sport in the WORLD! What other sport can 43 guys all have a legitimate spot at winning, ill tell you, NONE! Give me other racing sport where over 125,000 people come to watch, i can only think of one, the 24 Hours of Le Mans, but that track is huge. BRING ON THE NASCARS!!!!!


Give me a reason to run that oval besides for long-arse drifts, sports cars dont belong on ovals, Stock cars Do!!!!

You as a NASCAR fanboy need to shut up, true facts , ok, but seriously Nascar is ****.

I dont even no what it is but from what i have read doing 500 laps in circle is down right ridiculeous.

 

[Demon Drone]

The thing I hate about NASCAR is that the pool of drivers as a whole are less skilled than the rest of the racing world. (expect drag racing) The thing that makes me mad is that some drivers have someone else drive for them on road courses. The way I see it either grow some b**** and race or loose point by not racing. Plus it's degrading to the guy that's being asked to drive for someone who sucks. As far as putting NASCAR it in, I'm going to say "HELL NO!" MY take on things racing a "stock" car with a LeMans seires car would be like bringing a howitzer to a gun fight. That's my opinion.

 

[xXSilencerXx]

You all can have the dumbass of the day award.

nascar once again is rednecks

So your a small minded discrimantor of people from the south. Well I guess i can call you a fag cuz your from California.

that drive around in a circle for 500 laps or some retarded amout of laps

Theres only three or four races a year with five hundred laps and those are at half mile short tracks. So get your facts staight stupid****.

Yeh NASCAR Sucks,



You as a NASCAR fanboy need to shut up, true facts , ok, but seriously Nascar is ****.

I dont even no what it is but from what i have read doing 500 laps in circle is down right ridiculeous.

Yes he dosen't have the facts straight according to someone who dosen't even know what the hell he's talkin about.

The thing I hate about NASCAR is that the pool of drivers as a whole are less skilled than the rest of the racing world.

Wrong and you can't prove that.

The thing that makes me mad is that some drivers have someone else drive for them on road courses.

Wrong again. Owners hire an extra driver and field and extra car at road races to up there chances at winning. Never do they swap drivers. Example DEI usually gave Ron Fellows a ride at Watkins Glen and Sears Point but never did he replace any of their regular drivers.

 

[Demon Drone]

Wrong and you can't prove that.

Actually it can be proved. There was a competition the was held that had all the top drivers in the world today. (i.e. F1, JGT, NASCAR, CART/Champ Car, etc.) Speed televised it. Jimmy Johnson was the NASCAR "rep" and when it was his turn to race he spun out on the first turn. Need I say more?

Wrong again. Owners hire an extra driver and field and extra car at road races to up there chances at winning. Never do they swap drivers. Example DEI usually gave Ron Fellows a ride at Watkins Glen and Sears Point but never did he replace any of their regular drivers.

You obviously didn't read what I wrote. I said it makes me mad when they have different drivers race for them on road courses only. I never said they replaced them.

 

[Mad Murphy NZ]

You're forgetting that NASCAR has no international appeal. The rest of the world sees it as a backwards motorsport and makes jokes about it. Even motorsport media here makes the odd joke about drivers who go off to race NASCAR... Marcus Ambrose anyone?

 

[jedi09]

I dont think NASCAR would be realistic in gt4 as it is in real life BUT i still think that PD should put at least on stock car style car with different paint schemes just like the f1 car has in gt4. This is because there is just way too much NASCAR stuff to research on that PD might as well create another game for Nascar alone.

 

[luftrofl]

I hear EA makes a fine NASCAR GAME.

Go play that.

 

[y2kgamer]

What's wrong with putting a few NASCAR stock cars and a few tracks in GT5? We're not asking for a full NASCAR game.

Mark Martin's Ford Taurus was in GT2. The old Dodge Charger and Plymouth Superbird (which raced in NASCAR in the 1970s) is in GT4.

Besides, there are worse cars in GT... Seriously, how many of you enjoyed racing Daihatsu Midgets?

The more cars the better. If you don't like it, then don't drive it. To each his/her own. But don't spoil it for the rest of us.

And some of you people really need to learn more about NASCAR (which is now mainstream and the 2nd most popular sport in America).

Fan Demographics

Some bias comes from the belief that most NASCAR fans are rednecks because of the sport's Southern heritage; this stereotype is largely inaccurate. According to NASCAR, about 10% of NASCAR fans are African-American, which is a slightly smaller percentage of African-Americans than in the general population. This compares to the NFL, where African-American NFL fans represent about 11.7 percent of the total NFL base. The percentage of African-American NASCAR fans has grown by 86% since 1999. About 40% of fans are female. Almost half have attended college and about 25% have attained a college degree. About 36% of NASCAR fans make more than $50,000 a year. Finally, NASCAR fans are evenly distributed across the country. For example, 20% of NASCAR fans live in the Northeast U.S.; this is in line with the general population--20% of the U.S. population lives in the Northeast. While the largest base of NASCAR fans live in the Southern U.S., only 38% of the NASCAR fans live in the South. Again, this is in line with the general population--35% of the population lives in the South.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nascar

As for the ignorant who say NASCAR drivers can't race on road courses... Ever heard of Jeff Gordon or Tony Stewart? Gordon has won 4 Championships, and Stewart just won his 2nd. Those two happen to be expert road racers. NASCAR is extremely competitive (especially since they added "The Chase For The Cup"). Every point counts. Any NASCAR driver who wants a shot at the championship better be good at road racing.

Hell, Jeff Gordon even got a chance to test a Williams FW24/BMW (at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway road course) in 2003.

For those wondering fast Gordon was...

Gordon turned laps within 1.3 seconds of Montoya's best warm-up lap Wednesday morning—1:15.2.

http://speedtv.com/articles/auto/autoindustry/6702/

 

[xXSilencerXx]

Actually it can be proved. There was a competition the was held that had all the top drivers in the world today. (i.e. F1, JGT, NASCAR, CART/Champ Car, etc.) Speed televised it. Jimmy Johnson was the NASCAR "rep" and when it was his turn to race he spun out on the first turn. Need I say more?







You obviously didn't read what I wrote. I said it makes me mad when they have different drivers race for them on road courses only. I never said they replaced them.

Go look at IROC nascar guys always win there.

You said drivers hire new drivers not owners.

 

[235RX-7GT-C]

Everybody should at least get two or three of the different race cars. That would make everyone happy. Whether us american "HICKS" or your foreign stuff that you foreign guys like. I enjoy those thing too. GT5 can set up anythign it wanted to, they have D1, they have that formula 1 car. Let us americans have nascar.

 

[jedi09]

ya, what i said

 

[Gabkicks]

all the people here against nascar being in gt5 are just half-witted hate bandwagon jumping, ignorant "people" and i use the term people loosely.

 

[F1GTR]

I'd like NASCAR in there, however simple it(seems) to be, it's a form of motorsport and it should be included.

 

[concentric]

all the people here against nascar being in gt5 are just half-witted hate bandwagon jumping, ignorant "people" and i use the term people loosely.

now that's a bit nasty.. just because not everyone shares your opinion does not mean they are wrong. i don't want nascar in gt5, i'd rather have more f1 tracks and cars and more rallies.. that doesn't make me an ignorant half-wit.

calm down, at the end of the day it's just a bunch of ones and zeros..

 

[Gabkicks]

you dont have to drive on a oval or choose a stock car if its in the game.

 

[Mad Murphy NZ]

you dont have to drive on a oval or choose a stock car if its in the game.

Well with that logic I hope I don't see people like you complaining if there's 50 more Skylines in GT5, afterall you don't have to drive them. I'd far rather see some Transams/OSCAs instead of NASCAR, that's 100x more interesting. If NASCAR was in GT5 it would be poorly done like rally and F1 cars are in GT4, it would feel like kind of an addon with little relevance to the overall game. I really don't want to see GT5 lose sight of its production car racing roots and fill the game up with endless pre-modified, set up race cars.

 

[Gabkicks]

people like me? what does that mean? i am a skyline fan search my posts i never complained about the large amount of skylines like people like you have

It seems like alot of people here think that the gran turismo developers have ADD or something. "i'm afriad if they put this in the game or that or blah blah they will lose focus"

 

[Mad Murphy NZ]

Why would I ever complain about skylines? I'm one of the people who thinks there aren't enough skylines . And yes, NASCAR, F1, Rally etc. aren't Gran Turismo's focus. Gran Turismo is about Production and Touring Car and GT racing. Not stockcars, not supercars, not rally cars, not F1 cars. When you try and do a lot of things, you do a lot of things poorly, Gran Turismo is better to focus on what it does well and not make a mish-mash of different things. If I want to rally I'll go play a rally game, if I want F1 I'll play an F1 game, if I want NASCAR I'll play a NASCAR game. If I want Production/GT racing I'll play Gran Turismo.

 

[Raghavan]

If PD includes NASCAR, I'm not buying GT5.

 

[concentric]

you dont have to drive on a oval or choose a stock car if its in the game.

well, if i wanted to experience all the game had to offer, [which i always have with the gt series], yes i would..

my intention with the earlier post was to present my opinion; that i would enjoy more f1 events and rallies than nascar in gt5, and to point out to you that forums are all about sharing opinions; a difference in opinion isn't really grounds for an insult such as the one you made earlier.

now, lets get on with the topic

 

[Uncle Harry]

You're forgetting that NASCAR has no international appeal. The rest of the world sees it as a backwards motorsport and makes jokes about it. Even motorsport media here makes the odd joke about drivers who go off to race NASCAR... Marcus Ambrose anyone?

In Australia we make jokes about New Zealanders and Sheep.
You're forgetting that NASCAR has more international appeal then New Zealand.
Damn, you beat us in both rugby codes this year. : 👎
Why bag the cars?
The major beef against NASCAR is surely because they drive around oval tracks.
The American fans seem to like it.
A NASCAR would not be too much different to a Aussie V8 supercar.
Both are large sedans, RWD with V8 engines built to a set of rules.
I bet you would want some V8 Supercar races, say at Bathurst and Phillip Island, to be added.
NASCAR on GT5 tracks equals more driving experiences, surely this is what we all want from GT5. (Also better AI if PD is reading).
If they add both V8 Supercars and NASCARS I would be happy, if they only add 1, make it the V8 supercars.

 

[concentric]

Why would I ever complain about skylines? I'm one of the people who thinks there aren't enough skylines . And yes, NASCAR, F1, Rally etc. aren't Gran Turismo's focus. Gran Turismo is about Production and Touring Car and GT racing. Not stockcars, not supercars, not rally cars, not F1 cars. When you try and do a lot of things, you do a lot of things poorly, Gran Turismo is better to focus on what it does well and not make a mish-mash of different things. If I want to rally I'll go play a rally game, if I want F1 I'll play an F1 game, if I want NASCAR I'll play a NASCAR game. If I want Production/GT racing I'll play Gran Turismo.

that's good point. but i think gran turismo is more about realistic racing than just the type os racing you listed. it has never limited itself to just production, touring, and gt car racing. it covers many different areas of motorsport, yes, but the main objective of the game, [as i see it], is to provide a realistic driving experience..

pd have included many varities of racing, yes, and some aren't as well implemented as others, but bear in mind that gt is still quite young when it comes to rallies and f1, and i am sure with time it will eventually become the definitive racing game, which covers all that motorsport has to offer, and does it well..

..just my two cents

 

[concentric]

In Australia we make jokes about New Zealanders and Sheep.
You're forgetting that NASCAR has more international appeal then New Zealand.
Damn, you beat us in both rugby codes this year. : 👎
Why bag the cars?
The major beef against NASCAR is surely because they drive around oval tracks.
The American fans seem to like it.
A NASCAR would not be too much different to a Aussie V8 supercar.
Both are large sedans, RWD with V8 engines built to a set of rules.
I bet you would want some V8 Supercar races, say at Bathurst and Phillip Island, to be added.
NASCAR on GT5 tracks equals more driving experiences, surely this is what we all want from GT5. (Also better AI if PD is reading).
If they add both V8 Supercars and NASCARS I would be happy, if they only add 1, make it the V8 supercars.

you've swayed me you aussie bastard indeed gt is all about racing, and the inclusion of any motorsport should make us happy

 

[Laorin]

or we could all shut up and wait for GT5 to come out!

If you honestly think any amount of bickering on this forum is going to change PD's mind about the game I think you are mistaken. Let them do their job.