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well said laorin 
NASCAR (Stock cars, Craftsman trucks, etc.) in GT5?
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Laorin
I once mentioned on GTP pre GT4 release that it would be good if PD gave prize cars for Bronze, Silver and gold license passes.
Look what we got 👍
Did that influnce PD's thinking?
I really don't know, but do not say that PD will not not change there mind if they see a good idea in the forums.
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Uncle_Harry, good ideas are mentioned on GTPlanet. Problem is, some want everything for a GT game, some want ususally pointless and foolish things, some complained over certain things. But basic gameplay mechanics are always primary.
Just because one person suggest something doesn't mean that PD is going to adopt that idea and make it known to the world. So if a person wanted to take a Toyota Supra, give it a Veilside body kit, chameleon paint, neon lighting, and some here-and-there actual performance upgrades, PD would grant that wish whether we like it or not. In addition to working with certain ideas, it has to be within something PD can actually implement. What's the point of adding a feature that PD can't research or implement perfectly? Sure, satisfying all tastes is important, but even there are some things you can live without. I loved the idea of getting prize cars for clearing license tests in all-bronze, all-silver, and even the elusive all-gold. I liked it in non-racing game GTA: San Andreas, and I loved it in GT4. The thought of practical, useful, feasible ideas always work better than outlandish, one-sided ideas. Or if a person feels that you can implement a feature better than PD can, why not get your resumé together and work for PD if you're so bad.
NASCAR in GT5 may not happen, but it would be nice to see an ACTUAL "stock" car (poking at the Ford Taurus SHO Race Mod in GT2) in the game. It can have fictional paintschemes. I'm okay with Gran Turismo and/or Polyphony Digital livery on them. I don't want to race the overrated as the Dale Earnhardt Jr. or as Tony Stewart (also known as "Smoke"). If PD looked into this idea, they'll need some models to work off of. Monte Carlos and Tauruses are popular. Ford may go from the Taurus to the ugly Ford Fusion next season, the Viper-looking Chargers may be a nice pick up. It would also be interesting to race a Toyota Tundra as a "stock" truck. If all goes well, you can have a makeshift championship only with these race cars.
Do you all dig what I'm discussing?
Just because one person suggest something doesn't mean that PD is going to adopt that idea and make it known to the world. So if a person wanted to take a Toyota Supra, give it a Veilside body kit, chameleon paint, neon lighting, and some here-and-there actual performance upgrades, PD would grant that wish whether we like it or not. In addition to working with certain ideas, it has to be within something PD can actually implement. What's the point of adding a feature that PD can't research or implement perfectly? Sure, satisfying all tastes is important, but even there are some things you can live without. I loved the idea of getting prize cars for clearing license tests in all-bronze, all-silver, and even the elusive all-gold. I liked it in non-racing game GTA: San Andreas, and I loved it in GT4. The thought of practical, useful, feasible ideas always work better than outlandish, one-sided ideas. Or if a person feels that you can implement a feature better than PD can, why not get your resumé together and work for PD if you're so bad.
NASCAR in GT5 may not happen, but it would be nice to see an ACTUAL "stock" car (poking at the Ford Taurus SHO Race Mod in GT2) in the game. It can have fictional paintschemes. I'm okay with Gran Turismo and/or Polyphony Digital livery on them. I don't want to race the overrated as the Dale Earnhardt Jr. or as Tony Stewart (also known as "Smoke"). If PD looked into this idea, they'll need some models to work off of. Monte Carlos and Tauruses are popular. Ford may go from the Taurus to the ugly Ford Fusion next season, the Viper-looking Chargers may be a nice pick up. It would also be interesting to race a Toyota Tundra as a "stock" truck. If all goes well, you can have a makeshift championship only with these race cars.
Do you all dig what I'm discussing?
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how about they don't have Nascar or Formula 1 cars? sounds great to me
But at least add Daytona to the track roster
F1 and Nascar will never make it into GT.
You will at most get an open-wheeled, downforce so strong you can drive upsidedown race car as a substitute for a F1 car.
Stock cars lack international appeal, but sales of GT here in the U.S. probably wouldn't change much if stock cars never made it in, so it probably won't make it into GT if there's something else to put in.
You will at most get an open-wheeled, downforce so strong you can drive upsidedown race car as a substitute for a F1 car.
Stock cars lack international appeal, but sales of GT here in the U.S. probably wouldn't change much if stock cars never made it in, so it probably won't make it into GT if there's something else to put in.
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Jedi09, do you say that about F1 cars as an enthusiast, or as a "fanboy?"
I think the common error we're all making here is, are we talking about these kinds of cars on the basis of racing them at the limit, or just to enjoy the speed of the cars? In terms of racing, NASCAR-type race cars have a four-speed manual and a throaty 750hp V8 motor. They also carry 3400 lbs of weight. They don't have perfect handling, but they can be easy for some road racing tracks. It can be easy to set up a car for a turn, then go for a smooth entry with just the right amount of braking. Now for the other cars. Formula One-style cars pack over 800+ hp, pencil thin, ultra light, very precise cornering and all that.
Again, are we talking about NASCAR in GT5 in terms of NASCAR race cars, drivers, and sanctioning body? Or are we talking about having just the cars?
I think the common error we're all making here is, are we talking about these kinds of cars on the basis of racing them at the limit, or just to enjoy the speed of the cars? In terms of racing, NASCAR-type race cars have a four-speed manual and a throaty 750hp V8 motor. They also carry 3400 lbs of weight. They don't have perfect handling, but they can be easy for some road racing tracks. It can be easy to set up a car for a turn, then go for a smooth entry with just the right amount of braking. Now for the other cars. Formula One-style cars pack over 800+ hp, pencil thin, ultra light, very precise cornering and all that.
Again, are we talking about NASCAR in GT5 in terms of NASCAR race cars, drivers, and sanctioning body? Or are we talking about having just the cars?
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Once again(i posted a previous thread about this), I dont think actual NASCAR style careers and drivers(like a nascar simulater) would be a good idea. I just want to see the cars and i dont even care if they're actual car sponsors, i just wanna see the "stock cars" and 1 or 2 oval tracks to race them on.JohnBM01
Get me a screenshot of that movie Jedi, I must have missed it.
I never said I don't like F1 racing, but quite honestly I'm not much of a fan.
Sure it's interesting because they are so fast, but due to the heavy downforce and open-wheels, close racing is virtually non-existant
Last night I saw for the first time the Australian V8 supercar series at 1 in the morning(I stayed up that late because it was the first time I'd seen them racing) and was very impressed for the first time I had seen it(and probably the last on normal broadcast).
I'd rather have the V8 supercars than F1 and Nascar in GT.
I never said I don't like F1 racing, but quite honestly I'm not much of a fan.
Sure it's interesting because they are so fast, but due to the heavy downforce and open-wheels, close racing is virtually non-existant
Last night I saw for the first time the Australian V8 supercar series at 1 in the morning(I stayed up that late because it was the first time I'd seen them racing) and was very impressed for the first time I had seen it(and probably the last on normal broadcast).
I'd rather have the V8 supercars than F1 and Nascar in GT.
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I may not be understanding what you are saying, are you saying the C5R and Viper are NASCAR cars?
If so:
The Corvette C5R Race car and Team Oreca Viper cars are not NASCAR cars, they are Le Mans / ALMS(American LeMans Series) spec-race cars.
NASCAR cars are these types of cars.
http://www.nascar.strefa.pl/tapety.php
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Hmmm, it came out that way didn´t it?
What I was trying to say was that if cars like C5R and the Oreca Viper are included already, whom actually comes from real motorsports (in this case Le Mans , ALMS and I think LMES too) why not include a NASCAR type of car? I think a Ford or a Dodge wouldn´t be that hard to include, since the manufacturers are already in the game.
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Honestly , I think that nextel cup stock cars should be included into the next game but to a limited degree. GT4 includes authentic race cars from all sorts of racing series but does'nt neccasarily make that series a dominant theme within the game. I must admit that I'm not a huge fan of nascar but hey racing is racing and the series does attract my interest from time to time. I mean when you see one of these cars get loose and drift at 170+ mph you have to respect the skill of these drivers..... We don't need to see massive 40 car packs of cars to see stock cars in GT but I think it would be king of neat to see modern 750 bhp stock cars as well as some historical 80's , 70's, and 60's stock cars included. As for ovals, its not as though less skill is needed to race..... Racers and fans alike around the world have huge amounts of respect for Indianaplis..... now there is an idea??? I think stock cars have a place in GT5 hands down.
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red7Honestly , I think that nextel cup stock cars should be included into the next game but to a limited degree. GT4 includes authentic race cars from all sorts of racing series but does'nt neccasarily make that series a dominant theme within the game. I must admit that I'm not a huge fan of nascar but hey racing is racing and the series does attract my interest from time to time. I mean when you see one of these cars get loose and drift at 170+ mph you have to respect the skill of these drivers..... We don't need to see massive 40 car packs of cars to see stock cars in GT but I think it would be king of neat to see modern 750 bhp stock cars as well as some historical 80's , 70's, and 60's stock cars included. As for ovals, its not as though less skill is needed to race..... Racers and fans alike around the world have huge amounts of respect for Indianaplis..... now there is an idea??? I think stock cars have a place in GT5 hands down.
I think thats an excellent point... If they include cars from all other forms of racing, they most certainly should include NASCAR... possibley in the same manner as the Formula (F1) cars & series in GT4... although, I'd rather see a seperate game, made by the same people, with the same enthusiasm, that includes NASCAR - F1 - & Rally racing... that way all can be truly satisfied... people are always complaining about rally races (wether it's to much or not enough) I think the same would go with NASCAR as well...(they could even have the prize for winning it's series a black number 3)... & putting F1 cars with them in a seperate game makes a lot of sense to me... then they could also make the version with more street & street looking cars far more detailed and have more of the things we all want... that's my two cents, anyway
P.S. JOHNBMO -- NASCAR cars have 6-speed tranny's..... & I'm not completley sure about the weight, but I think it's less than 3400LBS...
P.S.S. I also think many people would be really, really, surprised with the handling of the NASCAR cars, too
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235RX-7GT-CThey should consider maybe puting Nascar stuff on GT5. I think it would be cool to have a nascar evvent amd use old or new Nascar vehicles. But the problem might be that EA Games has that game endorsesd. PD should use different sponsers. What you you guys think?
Never mind EA games. I think nascar is a really good idea! Not too excessive though!
Maybe one or 2 races under endurance races
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Some of you guys think racing on oval tracks are easier than spit. That is not true, for example Darlington Raceway is one of the toughest ovals on the Nascar circuit. Its been named "The track thats to tough to tame." I'll bet that F1 drivers would have trouble conquering this track if they raced the full oval.
As to what JohnBM01 said, I just want the cars. It doesn't matter what track they use, except I want Darlington.
As to what JohnBM01 said, I just want the cars. It doesn't matter what track they use, except I want Darlington.
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I'm not a NASCAR fanatic, but I do have some of my favorite ovals NASCAR races. They include: Daytona, Charlotte/Lowe's Motor Speedway, Michigan, California, and Sears Point. I like Talladega too, but I just hate having to maintain my line while someone whacks me into the wall forcing "The Big One."
I'd like to go back to a point I made in a very early post. Would you like to see different variations of "stock" cars? My favorite styles of stock cars are the late models. If you ever look online for stuff like the Snowball Derby, just look at the cars. They are vertically low, and wide on the sides. I like these most because they look so slick. I don't know what it's called now or if it's still around, but there was a series once called the "Goody's Dash Series." It featured mostly compacts and stuff as tube framers. I remember a Pontiac Sunfire and Toyota Celica as NASCAR-type stock cars. There would be stock car types I would not want to race:
NASCAR Modifieds - think about a front-engined Forumla-type race car with the body of a stock car. If you're thinking of an abomination, you're right.
Well, can't think of any others, so I'll leave it at that. Still though, I don't care for NASCAR too much, and certainly don't care much to see them represented in a GT game. As I've said, the best they can do is come up with generic paintschemes like they did the fantasy Formula One cars in Gran Turismo 3. To make these generic schemes shine, they have to resemble something you'd see on a stock car. Can you imagine as many variations as possible for Gran Turismo livery, Polyphony Digital livery... and all in different styles? Normally, stock cars carry some of my least favorite schemes. They are second worst to most drag racing cars. If I get a chance, I'll show off some stock car liveries, then you can sort of imagine how to come around with a makeshift paintscheme for each.
I'd like to go back to a point I made in a very early post. Would you like to see different variations of "stock" cars? My favorite styles of stock cars are the late models. If you ever look online for stuff like the Snowball Derby, just look at the cars. They are vertically low, and wide on the sides. I like these most because they look so slick. I don't know what it's called now or if it's still around, but there was a series once called the "Goody's Dash Series." It featured mostly compacts and stuff as tube framers. I remember a Pontiac Sunfire and Toyota Celica as NASCAR-type stock cars. There would be stock car types I would not want to race:
NASCAR Modifieds - think about a front-engined Forumla-type race car with the body of a stock car. If you're thinking of an abomination, you're right.
Well, can't think of any others, so I'll leave it at that. Still though, I don't care for NASCAR too much, and certainly don't care much to see them represented in a GT game. As I've said, the best they can do is come up with generic paintschemes like they did the fantasy Formula One cars in Gran Turismo 3. To make these generic schemes shine, they have to resemble something you'd see on a stock car. Can you imagine as many variations as possible for Gran Turismo livery, Polyphony Digital livery... and all in different styles? Normally, stock cars carry some of my least favorite schemes. They are second worst to most drag racing cars. If I get a chance, I'll show off some stock car liveries, then you can sort of imagine how to come around with a makeshift paintscheme for each.
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I figured out why Ovals are so boring on GT games. I have Nascar Racing 4 for my computer and it so much funner to race ovals on there. It's because there is 42 other cars racing with you. It takes skill to negotiate through an entire field of cars or just run amung them and it IS fun to do, but only if there is a large pack of cars with you.
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I found a movie which is supposed to be a preview for gt5 on ps3. Click on the second movie. It has some f1's in it about 22 seconds into it.luftrofl
gt5 preview
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AGREED. I have a NASCAR game. And boy Darlington is hard. The track's so bloddy narrow!
Anyway, I'm not really a big fan of NASCAR. And it doesn't really make much of a difference to me whether or not they make it in. Since PD already has JGTC (japanese equivalent of NASCAR) cars, they probably wouldn't consider it.
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