New Gran Turismo 7 Details: PS4 vs PS5, Driving Physics, GT Cafe, and More Revealed in Kazunori Yamauchi Interview

[ImaRobot]

I do not think so. Managing data collection for models, especially historical cars, has to be time consuming. Once they decide to include a certain model, they have to search for a currently available car, negotiate with the owners, and agree to a visit, travel to the place to take reference photos, videos and audio recordings and then process and organize all this information that will serve as basis for 3D modeling and simulation.
I think Polyphony should already have all the necessary data to recreate with current standards models that have appeared in other games, perhaps not for GT4 and earlier, but for GT5 and later.

The standard models in GT5 are the same models in GT4 and anything prior. What you're saying is being done, for Premium models from GT5 onward. It can't be done for Standard models.

 

[Famine]

Managing data collection for models, especially historical cars, has to be time consuming. Once they decide to include a certain model, they have to search for a currently available car, negotiate with the owners, and agree to a visit, travel to the place to take reference photos, videos and audio recordings and then process and organize all this information that will serve as basis for 3D modeling and simulation.

That's why I said "... from the reference images and CAD data".

You're talking about all the steps before having the reference images and CAD data, which certainly takes a lot of time. I'm not.

 

[Freeman_Cruz]

The standard models in GT5 are the same models in GT4 and anything prior. What you're saying is being done, for Premium models from GT5 onward. It can't be done for Standard models.

My writing has been confusing, sorry.

I think Polyphony should already have all the necessary data to recreate with c̶u̶r̶r̶e̶n̶t̶ ̶s̶t̶a̶n̶d̶a̶r̶d̶s̶ ̶m̶o̶d̶e̶l̶s̶ that have appeared in other games, perhaps not for GT4 and earlier, but for GT5 and later.

I think it can be better understood that way.

I think Polyphony should already have all the necessary data to recreate with current quality levels, cars that have appeared in previous games, perhaps not for GT4 and earlier, but for GT5 and later

 

[Jump_Ace]

People complaining about an internet connection requirement, while on the internet.

Those people be hybrid'ers.....



Jerome

 

[ImaRobot]

People complaining about an internet connection requirement, while on the internet.

Those people be hybrid'ers.....



Jerome

People are complaining about the issues that will follow having to be forced online always. That much should be apparent. It doesn't help that the reasons given by the Devs just seem like bs.

 

[Nowax]

Yep, I'm done with this series.
The campaign is, once again, online-only and I have good reason to believe now that this isn't going to change in GT8, if we ever get a GT8.
Online-only is the future of Gran Turismo, and if so, then this series no longer appeals to me.
There goes my only reason for buying a PS5. It's time to finally throw in the towel, swallow my pride, buy an Xbox and jump ship to Forza. At least, until that series inevitably follows the same path...

farewell

 

[64bitmodels]

People complaining about an internet connection requirement, while on the internet.

Those people be hybrid'ers.....



Jerome

10 years later....
"Oh boy, i sure can't wait to play Gran Turismo 7. it's a pretty old game, but i'm sure i'll have fun playing it nonetheless.
...what's this? i need an internet connection to save? the servers have been dead since 2028? oh well!"

 

[ArR29]

This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

New Gran Turismo 7 Details: PS4 vs PS5, Driving Physics, GT Cafe, and More Revealed in Kazunori Yamauchi Interview

A week on from the big Gran Turismo 7 reveal and launch date announcement, GTPlanet got the chance to sit down with Gran Turismo series creator Kazunori Yamauchi for an extensive one-on-one interview on the latest title. Although there was plenty of information to dig through after the grand unve

www.gtplanet.net

Thanks to Kazunori Yamauchi and everyone who made this interview possible!

RT during gameplay is a waste of resources specially for a racing game, they should focus more on physics simulation than RT. Sure, they can do it in the future GT 1080/60fps with raytracing on PS5 is possible but given the circumstances, PD made the right decision here.

 

[JSHuiting]

@Jordan thanks for the interview. Really interesting stuff.

Shame about weather and time of day progression not being on all tracks. However I guess if they wanted to later down the line it’s all there.

I'm assuming by him saying it will not being included on all tracks, he might be referencing Willow Springs/Laguna Seca. Of course rain does occur on occasion, but I'd assume it's a fairly rare one.

Are we forgetting that GT4 only had rain on Tsukuba, and that in GT5 and GT6 only select tracks had weather and/or time changes?
Don't get too optimistic, it's still PD and judging by how much time they're planning to take to create GT7 it'll have plenty of cut corners, like usual.

Everything that's said by Kaz also needs to be taken with a huge grain of salt.

 

[BigJimmy]

Why would you drop a series you have played for years because its online only? Who doesn't have constant connectivity these days anyway? Yeah it's a bit annoying sometimes but I'm more than willing to suck it up to play GT.

Talk about cutting of your nose to spite Kaz's face.

 

[64bitmodels]

Who doesn't have constant connectivity these days anyway?

LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY. Even folks who live in first world countries sometimes don't have the best internet around.

 

[ImaRobot]

RT during gameplay is a waste of resources specially for a racing game, they should focus more on physics simulation than RT. Sure, they can do it in the future GT 1080/60fps with raytracing on PS5 is possible but given the circumstances, PD made the right decision here.

This is PD we're talking about. How things look will always be first and foremost. Their design decisions isn't about physics simulation being the most accurate, but accessible.

 

[emula]

10 years later....
"Oh boy, i sure can't wait to play Gran Turismo 7. it's a pretty old game, but i'm sure i'll have fun playing it nonetheless.
...what's this? i need an internet connection to save? the servers have been dead since 2028? oh well!"

They will release a patch that allow to save offline before closing the server... all this hate against the online connection is only a pretest to attack the game... than the same people praise gamepass that would't even exist without an internet connection

 

[p78]

How many players that own a ps4 don't have ps+ . Is there data on that?

 

[Nowax]

10 years later....
"Oh boy, i sure can't wait to play Gran Turismo 7. it's a pretty old game, but i'm sure i'll have fun playing it nonetheless.
...what's this? i need an internet connection to save? the servers have been dead since 2028? oh well!"

Hold right there, buddy. We can't say for sure how servers will end on GT Sport, what if it were an offline patch?

 

[ImaRobot]

They will release a patch that allow to save offline before closing the server... all this hate against the online connection is only a pretest to attack the game... than the same people praise gamepass that would't even exist without an internet connection

If you're going to make a wild guess of what they're going to do, why are you going to try to put down others that are guessing too? Whos even attacking the game? People are just expressing their opinions. No wonder you always pretend you're a victim, because you think everything is an attack if they aren't being praised.

What in the world are you even talking about on the Gamepass and what does it even have to do with what PD is doing?

 

[Nowax]

ughh deleted

 

[64bitmodels]

They will release a patch that allow to save offline before closing the server... all this hate against the online connection is only a pretest to attack the game... than the same people praise gamepass that would't even exist without an internet connection

they didn't release a patch for GT5, neither did they release a patch for GT6, they just left us in the dark with no way to access the online components of those games.
Also, WTF does gamepass have to do with anything??? We're talking about gran turismo not ****ing xbox

 

[BigJimmy]

LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY. Even folks who live in first world countries sometimes don't have the best internet around.

Well obviously I wasn't talking about people who don't actually have broadband. But I'm willing to bet the vast majority of people who are moaning about it on here have a perfectly adequate Internet connection.

 

[Nowax]

LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY. Even folks who live in first world countries sometimes don't have the best internet around.

Well, if you happened to live in Africa, that's understandable lol. Also, you don't need a stable connection to play the campaign, that only affects you in multiplayer.

 

[RacingFan1]

"We found that we were able to make a PS4 version and a PS5 version without dropping any quality."
Without dropping quality...on which console?

To me it sounds like the PS5 is being heavily under-utilized, given how much more powerful it is than the PS4.


I'm guessing that's the result of letting the PS4 set the performance bar.

You guys do realise that the PS4 version will run at 1080 and the PS5 version will do so at 4k? Thats 4 times less the amount of resolution that the PS4 has to manage.

 

[Jump_Ace]

10 years later....
"Oh boy, i sure can't wait to play Gran Turismo 7. it's a pretty old game, but i'm sure i'll have fun playing it nonetheless.
...what's this? i need an internet connection to save? the servers have been dead since 2028? oh well!"

o well, I'll just play GT8 instead no biggie, it has improved physics and content anyway.


Jerome

 

[Nostradamus8]

Well, answering to the question about the difference between ps4 and ps5 that ps5 will have only better loading times, but features will be same is very bad. What is the point to buy ps5 in that case for those who have already PS4 pro??? How it could have same features if ps5 suppose to have better graphics with at least 4K@60fps or 4K@120fps as TVs are capable already, or for example more cars. Just “loading times” sounds like they did completely same version of the game for both regards graphics and capabilities without pushing ps5 version to it’s limits….What do you offer as a selling point for ps5 version of the game? “It has better loading times”, if ps5 wouldn’t have such ssd what would you say as creators??? “It has same features on both consoles”….unbelievable…

 

[Famine]

LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY. Even folks who live in first world countries sometimes don't have the best internet around.

You don't need the best internet. You just need internet. It's a very small exchange of data and it requires barely any bandwidth at all; you could do it on dial-up.

they didn't release a patch for GT5, neither did they release a patch for GT6, they just left us in the dark with no way to access the online components of those games.

They... did release a patch for GT5, to modify the game to function without online requirement:

Gran Turismo 5 Update 2.16 Released, Online Services Closed

One final update for GT5 is released as its online services are officially discontinued.

www.gtplanet.net

They didn't need to for GT6, because there wasn't an online requirement.

The fact that both games had their online services shut down isn't particularly relevant; you can still play both perfectly well today.


You're trotting out a lot of stuff in this thread which isn't true - this is the third and fourth time I've had to correct your statements - suggesting you have little knowledge about how these things function (such as PS Plus, which is only required to play online multiplayer, nothing else) or are very young and don't remember much about the GT series before Sport.

 

[Samus]

You guys do realise that the PS4 version will run at 1080 and the PS5 version will do so at 4k? Thats 4 times less the amount of resolution that the PS4 has to manage.

The PS4 version will surely run the same as GT Sport if you have a PS4 Pro, 1800p native checkerboarded to 2160p.

 

[Sum1s2pid]

Looking forward to this.

It'd be nice if Kaz was able to share information on any potential graphics modes (quality/performance/120hz). No worries.

The menus and maps look pretty slick... which is an odd thing for me to be excited about. But there we are.

 

[64bitmodels]

You're trotting out a lot of stuff in this thread which isn't true - this is the third and fourth time I've had to correct your statements - suggesting you have little knowledge about how these things function (such as PS Plus, which is only required to play online multiplayer, nothing else) or are very young and don't remember much about the GT series before Sport.

i am 15, but i've played almost every game in the series excluding the concept titles, sport and GT1
a lot of this stuff that's been announced with the newest game is just really disappointing to me and it pretty much killed the one reason i had to get a PS5

 

[RacingFan1]

The PS4 version will surely run the same as GT Sport if you have a PS4 Pro, 1800p native checkerboarded to 2160p.

I suppose yes, PS4 pro version will have better graphics, but overall GT7 for PS4 has to be a very dumbed down version of the PS5 one in terms of graphics

 

[Famine]

a lot of this stuff that's been announced with the newest game is just really disappointing to me

Sure, but there's no need to make stuff up to express your disappointment.

 

[RacingFan1]

LITERALLY EVERYONE WHO DOESN'T LIVE IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY. Even folks who live in first world countries sometimes don't have the best internet around.

I dont think poor countries will have PS5 (and PS5 games) as their top priority anyway