New Gran Turismo 7 "Starting Line" Trailer Reveals More New & Returning Cars
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Where the videos taken down?
Strittan
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I’d rather have them make it easier to earn money (by being able to sell prize cars for example) than keep the mileage exchange. It’s just weird in my book.
I agree about the paint colors though. I think all colors (including all factory colors) should be available from the start, but maybe have some be more expensive than others.
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Yep, can't view them now.
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What this 2 tracks ?
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Croix and Nurburgring.
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Didn't expect it to happen that quickly (they had over a thousand views already when I posted the article) but nonetheless... hit F5 and you'll see they're back in the post
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As a native spanish speaker I can give you some highlights:
Tracks: kaz explains at high level the scan process for real worlds tracks (specially on surface). He also says that GT7 tracks are the most realistic ones in Gran Turismo history and also reminds the importance of weather. At the end he says Nurburgring is his favorite track in the world and that cause special feelings o him every time he drives there
Tuning: He explain the importance of tuning for competition, how every one can tune the cars to fit their style of driving. He also remarks that GT7 will be the biggest one in terms of items available for tuning and cosmetic customization
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The exterior customization options for the Supra look great. Of course it's something of a poster car so I'd expect it to have one of the widest available selections of car-specific parts, but very impressive even so, and it bodes well for the Japanese sports cars at the very least.
Also loving that every time I go on gtplanet now I can reasonably expect new GT7 info. Long may it last.
Also loving that every time I go on gtplanet now I can reasonably expect new GT7 info. Long may it last.
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I think they should make the paints more like GT6, you could choose the color of your gift car, and receive paint colors for cars you bought as well. Also being able to buy paints seems pretty good as well.
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In the video below, this is where I hope the GT community culture returns to. Kaz saying more tuning parts and options, hope we’ll be able to display as much with the Lobby function, should bring us more variety when it comes to car shows. I think in the first trailer, we see four Skylines in a Scape. An increase in display cars will help many of us express our love for automobiles a little better.
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So wet/dry lines are in, but tracks still don't build up rubber. This is despite marble build up off line being visually shown in GTS. As always with Kaz, physics improvements are just afterthoughts these days.Was reading over Kaz interviews from various sites. This bit is cool:
The big Gran Turismo 7 interview
Gran Turismo is back. Not that it's ever been away, of course - Gran Turismo Sport released towards the end of 2017, pr…www.eurogamer.net
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?!?! Kaz is making these games for quite some time. How can you possibly state that physics improvements are just an after thought? What do you and me actually know about making a racing game.
I have the utmost trust that they did their best in everything for as far as they where capable.
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I think you'll find that a lot of people on here actually know quite a bit about how racing games are made, especially the ones who have been here for well over a decade. It's not rocket science.
That physics improvements are an afterthought is the charitable interpretation of the fact that the Gran Turismo physics have some core issues that haven't been resolved in a long time, and for no readily apparent reason. The alternative that you suggest, that they have done everything to the extent that they're capable, is actually just a fancy way of saying that they're incompetent developers.
Much smaller devs have done far more with far less, and so I'd rather believe that Polyphony has the physics the way that they are by choice rather than because that's literally the best that they can do.
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If you take the view that game developers are infallible and always do the best then you’re effectively saying that there aren’t any bad games out there. NASCAR Ignition says hello as does Konami’s new football game.
You don’t have to be a game developer to recognise a games flaws Or suggest ways it can be better.
You don’t have to be a game developer to recognise a games flaws Or suggest ways it can be better.
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LeGeNd-1
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As others have said, GT has numerous longstanding physics issues that have never been fixed, when other sims have done better with much smaller budget/development team.
- Ride height still reversed
- Old cars don't feel like they should
- Tyre pressures not simulated at all, despite being the most basic thing you can adjust on your car
- Innacurate aero leading to wrong top speeds
- Non linear throttle, with no way to adjust it
- Rain physics nothing like reality, as per real life GT3 driver
- Kerbs randomly spinning out cars (and if you don't play GT Sport, the guy is the 2019 FIA World Champion, so he's not just some noob)
Even games like rFactor does a few things better than GTS, and that was released in 2004. Newer sims like AC/ACC and AMS blows GT out of the water entirely when it comes to physics and FFB. Even the much derided PCARS has live dynamic track which rubber up with time. Forza is moving to an 8 point tyre model in the next game. Hell, even Driveclub, an arcade game, models lift off oversteer and torque steer better than the FF cars in GT.
And to answer your question, no I do not make games. But I have played hundred of racing games over the years, followed automotive/motorsport for 20+ years and also driven cars at speed on a track on a few occasions. I don't profess to know everything, but I'm not pulling BS out of thin air either. If you're still not convinced, smart people on the forums like Scaff (who actually taught automotive engineering), can also vouch that GT isn't as accurate as "The Real Driving Simulator" tagline.
As long as the fans keep putting Kaz/GT on a pedestal and think they can do no wrong, they will keep being complacent and rest on their laurels when their competitors have long ago left them in the dust. I've said this in another thread, but the only thing keeping their sales high is their 20 years of brand recognition, not the quality or innovation of the product.
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Adding on to this, I think its fair to assume that the developers are fully aware of that for as long as the players have but willingly chose to keep the same physics and FFB of the game, whether that is for simplicity or keeping the original routes of GT is another question no one will answer for the time being.
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