NFL 2014 Season

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Welp, glad I didn't get to see the game. 4 straight years of not making it past the first round, and 6 straight appearances. Marvin should be gone, but everyone knows Mike Brown won't let that happen. Same old 🤬 every year in Cincy.
 
Picking up that PI penalty was the worst officiating I've ever seen, worse than the replacement ref's Seattle vs. GB touchdown. #gawdihatedallas


Jerome
What gets me even more than that is how Dez Bryant stormed onto the field and never got an Unsportsmanlike penalty for it. It doesn't really change the fact that the Lions sucked in the second half, but that play really changed the momentum like no other play.
 
I saw an article on the Facebook feeds (didn't read it) that said there was photos of the head of officiating exiting Jerry Jones' trailer. It was a "fuel to the conspiracy fire" type of thing, haha. Just remember, the world of sports media "knew" that Carolina would play the Hawks next week, even though Dallas/Detroit hadn't played yet. :rolleyes: lol
 
Seriously, the man never turned around for the ball...

I know huh, it was the very definition of Pass Interference, the case couldn't have been more clear. The Lions got shafted, there is no two ways about it.

I feel bad for Stafford and company, they should be playing us this weekend instead of the Panthers, it would have been fun to watch Golden Tate come back to his old stomping grounds and play against us.
 
I know huh, it was the very definition of Pass Interference, the case couldn't have been more clear. The Lions got shafted, there is no two ways about it.

I feel bad for Stafford and company, they should be playing us this weekend instead of the Panthers, it would have been fun to watch Golden Tate come back to his old stomping grounds and play against us.
Yup...

And I've never liked Suh because he's basically a repeat offender and only monetary fines have been posted against him, but seeing him leave emotionally in the PC was sad. To make a man, that size cry, is ridiculous...
 
Yup...

And I've never liked Suh because he's basically a repeat offender and only monetary fines have been posted against him, but seeing him leave emotionally in the PC was sad. To make a man, that size cry, is ridiculous...

Not a fan of Suh either, he is one of the dirtiest players in the league, but no one can deny how talented he is on the field. He's a great clutch playmaker.
 
Picking up that PI penalty was the worst officiating I've ever seen, worse than the replacement ref's Seattle vs. GB touchdown. #gawdihatedallas


Jerome
No, it was the right thing for several reasons:

1: The official who threw the flag was the line judge. He was situated around 40 yards away from the play at the line of scrimmage.

2. The NFL has a seniority system in place to call penalties. The Side Judge is responsible for all players down the field whereas the Umpire is responsible for the linebackers. While the referee was announcing the penalty thrown by the Line Judge, the Side Judge and the Umpire were actually in conference talking about the play. Since both of them had seniority over the Line Judge because they were closer to the play and a linebacker was involved, they overruled the Line Judge.

3. The Dallas Linebacker was trying to make a play on the ball, but he was held by the facemask by the Lions receiver. You can get a clear shot of it on the reverse angles.
 
No, it was the right thing for several reasons:

1: The official who threw the flag was the line judge. He was situated around 40 yards away from the play at the line of scrimmage.

2. The NFL has a seniority system in place to call penalties. The Side Judge is responsible for all players down the field whereas the Umpire is responsible for the linebackers. While the referee was announcing the penalty thrown by the Line Judge, the Side Judge and the Umpire were actually in conference talking about the play. Since both of them had seniority over the Line Judge because they were closer to the play and a linebacker was involved, they overruled the Line Judge.

3. The Dallas Linebacker was trying to make a play on the ball, but he was held by the facemask by the Lions receiver. You can get a clear shot of it on the reverse angles.

I didn't see a face mask and I was specifically looking for one while trying to make sense of the reversal. Either way the official blew that call and a defensive holding call (which would've also resulted in a Lion's first down) and it likely cost Detroit the game.

Here Blandino's take, in a nutshell the officiating crew screwed up, there's no two ways about it. Dallas got away with a big one there.

but both referee Pete Morelli and NFL VP of officiating Dean Blandino have admitted that mistakes were made.


http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/01/05/de...s-lions-botched-pass-interference-explanation
 
Actually Pettigrew did grab Hitchens facemask trying to get away from him. Hitchens did grab him past the five yards though. Also Dez Bryant came on the field with no helmet on which should have been a 15 yard penalty. Not a Dallas fan but there were no guarantees that Det would have won if the penalty stood. The play after the punter has a 10 yd punt and on that fourth down Witten makes a big catch. If either of those plays turn out differently we aren't having this discussion.
 
No, it was the right thing for several reasons:

1: The official who threw the flag was the line judge. He was situated around 40 yards away from the play at the line of scrimmage.

2. The NFL has a seniority system in place to call penalties. The Side Judge is responsible for all players down the field whereas the Umpire is responsible for the linebackers. While the referee was announcing the penalty thrown by the Line Judge, the Side Judge and the Umpire were actually in conference talking about the play. Since both of them had seniority over the Line Judge because they were closer to the play and a linebacker was involved, they overruled the Line Judge.

3. The Dallas Linebacker was trying to make a play on the ball, but he was held by the facemask by the Lions receiver. You can get a clear shot of it on the reverse angles.

Sorry, but no. Penalties on both players involved cancel each other out; replay the down. If you count Dez Bryant racing onto the field to argue with the ref, that is an automatic 1st down. Dallas fans can't argue anything except that they got lucky. Sure it was no guarantee that Detroit would've scored, but letting it play out fairly was the only right call to make no matter how that outcome was reached.


Jerome
 
Sorry, but no. Penalties on both players involved cancel each other out; replay the down. If you count Dez Bryant racing onto the field to argue with the ref, that is an automatic 1st down. Dallas fans can't argue anything except that they got lucky. Sure it was no guarantee that Detroit would've scored, but letting it play out fairly was the only right call to make no matter how that outcome was reached.


Jerome
Dallas did get lucky. No idea what the refs were looking at but the NFL shouldn't be having "all-star" refs doing the playoffs who have never worked together before.
 
Dallas did get lucky. No idea what the refs were looking at but the NFL shouldn't be having "all-star" refs doing the playoffs who have never worked together before.
That's the way I look at it as well. They should have left the crews alone. On the one play in question, I alone counted 4 potential penalties : Defensive Pass interference (Dallas), Face mask (Detroit), Holding (Dallas), and Unsportsmanlike Conduct (Dallas). Those are just what I saw. I think that there could have been an offensive holding call on Detroit on the other side of the line too. The fact that there were at least four penalties on one play and then nothing was called after a penalty was announced angered me. I wouldn't have cared about the no-call if it would have been handled properly.

Now that I made my post, I'm even more irritated about the officials than I was before. The NFL is essentially leaving the crews alone. This is seriously a joke. The officials have been making horrible calls all the way through the playoffs, and they are leaving them alone? That is pathetic.
 
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That's the way I look at it as well. They should have left the crews alone. On the one play in question, I alone counted 4 potential penalties : Defensive Pass interference (Dallas), Face mask (Detroit), Holding (Dallas), and Unsportsmanlike Conduct (Dallas). Those are just what I saw. I think that there could have been an offensive holding call on Detroit on the other side of the line too. The fact that there were at least four penalties on one play and then nothing was called after a penalty was announced angered me. I wouldn't have cared about the no-call if it would have been handled properly.

Now that I made my post, I'm even more irritated about the officials than I was before. The NFL is essentially leaving the crews alone. This is seriously a joke. The officials have been making horrible calls all the way through the playoffs, and they are leaving them alone? That is pathetic.
They haven't called an INT and a TD at the same time. They have places to descend to.
 
Why did the refs just give Carolina a field goal? On the previous try Kam Chancellor partially blocked the kick, which nullifies any interference penalties after that. So running into the kicker (who also flopped) is no longer a penalty, but they call it anyway.
 
Well the Panthers are done. I'm hoping Cam wouldn't make a mistake but unfortunately he did. Oh well all my teams are done. Now I will cheer for whoever is playing against the Patriots.
 
It is slightly ironic that the "Calvin Johnson rule" comes back to bite Dez Bryant since he was the guy that walked away without the Unsportsmanlike penalty that he should have got during that whole debacle last week.
 
It did look like a completed pass.
That's what all of us Lions fans thought back when the "Calvin Johnson rule" (process of the catch) costed us a touchdown at Solider Field a few years ago which resulted in an L and a changed mindset in reviewing TD passes. I need to see a GIF of the reversed catch since I missed it, but that really had the single biggest impact on the game given the timing of the play.
 
Bwahaha, karma's a 🤬 Dallas :lol:


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