POLL: Do You Like The <1,000,000 Cr. Gift Restriction?

[dudeondacouch]

Seeing this many "likes" really makes me question the sanity and intelligence in this world. There isn't a single reason to like this. Give me a reason and I'll tell you why you're wrong.

What if I like it because it gave me an interesting thread to read at work?

 

[alonsof1fan91]

The nature of the UCD was put in place to create an online marketplace for rare cars. The duping exploit removed the point of the whole thing as the rarest, most sought after models were the most common cars to be duplicated and gifted.

Then I hope that someone fires Kaz and his staff, just to hire some guys who are smart enough to create a real online dealership and not a GIFTING system.

 

[FULL_THROTTLE]

This restriction needs to be removed as fast as possible

 

[Vautwin]

What if I like it because it gave me an interesting thread to read at work?

Get a more challenging and fulfilling job then, helps to
Expand ur life expectation. Means is healthier

 

[badpoet]

I don't dupe, but I also don't see how dupers hurt the game. I play offline and online in B-Spec remotely, and A-Spec offline. With the ability to determine the PP value and tires of cars in your online race, who exactly are dupers hurting?

 

[Vautwin]

So to all who like the restriction who wants one of These?? :

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=139015
Can trade right now

 

[Jack Do]

Well, now I feel comfortable putting miles on all my rare/expensive cars.

Now this i agree with, and is about the only good thing which 1.07 has bought. However the majority of collectible cars are worth over 1,000,000, if there going to ban you from sending cars of any real value then atleast let us send as many cars as we like...

 

[VTiRoj]

I voted like but I have my dislikes too.

Likes:
- Duping is limited to cars worth less than 1 million. Less duping means less threads complaining about duping. The forums become cleaner as a result.
- Encourages use of the sharing feature, which is much more useful if you want to lend your F1 to your friends anyway.
- Expensive race cars have to be earned the hard way. Less unexperienced drivers causing mayhem online because they cant control the X2010.
- The trading forums stop becoming a sea of X2010's.

Dislikes:
- Cant legitimately send or recieve cars worth over 1 million.
- Cant use multiple accounts to trade more than 1 car per day.
- People who have let friends borrow cars for the seasonals cant get the car back.
- The duping complaint threads have been replaced with gift restriction complaint threads.

 

[Welsh-Fury]

Somewhere in there forums I related Pokemon to GT5 with a literally perfect way to kill duping without any trade resrtictions. Did anybody listen when I posted it? No. But I'll post again just because it's relevant to this issue.

No, but I plan to use a post of mine here as a suggestion.

Here Goes:


What would be even better is to restrict cars to players by their A-Spec level, offline and online. If you're an A-Spec Zero (0) and Bob is a B-Spec Hero (40), Bob has the right to race an X2010 and certainly not you. This will also help with the gifting issue of, say, duplicated high level cars and kiddies getting super powered cars while being an A-Spec Zero. Sure OFFLINE you can test cars higher-level-than-your-own, but can't race them to progress yourself.


Speaking of duplicated cars...

This brings me back to Pokemon, and I'll tell you why. In Pokemon, when you captured a Pokemon, it is OT/*Your Name* (Original Trainer/*Your Name*) and given a 12 digit ID (6 visible, 6 hidden). That way, two players under the same name can't share Pokemon that they can call their own without people knowing it's been traded.

NOW, back to why Pokemon is so important. I think every car earned, by ticket or purchased, should have their name inscribed as the first original owner of the car, along with a, say, 12 digit hidden ID to the car. With that, you have a completely unique car.

Now how will this solve duping? Easy. Once it is detected that two cars of the same registered name and ID are present, that car is locked/removed. Same can go for Paint Chips/Horns/Car Parts.

Why have the hidden ID if all PSN names are unique themselves? Well, if you bought two Ferrari Enzo's, they both could have two different ID's without both being locked/removed, because (Guess What?) you earned them without duplicating.

 

[Rudenut]

It sucks that those who wanted to trade rare expensive cars can't anymore, but to those who exploited the system, you ****ing deserve it. And then you have the audacity to complain that it's unfair!? Hypocrisy much? "I can no longer cheat to get an advantage, how unfair!"
Grow up and play this racing game for what it was meant for, enjoying races
I only have 1 car worth >1,000,000, and thats the FGT, and I'm still enjoying the hell out of this game

I am curious what advantage you think I, who does not take part in any online activity at all have? The stuff I do was for myself alone. For that matter what advantage does anyone have in a game that never intended for a supported trading system anyway. I would submit that legit players are not using the game as intended. So tell me what do you get from me not cheating?

 

[G.T.Ace]

I think it should've been like that from the beginning.
I also got some expensive cars gifted by friends (without asking), I thanked them etc. but it actually made the "rare" and expensive cars in the game a joke since everyone could get them for free (I traded a Cusco Subaru against an F10 here, I mean, come on...). Now you will have to be careful on which cars you spend your money and you will appreciate the cars more once you own them.

By the way, don't forget that you can "rent" cars from friends now, so if you need a car for a special event or photo session, ask someone.

 

[dudeondacouch]

Get a more challenging and fulfilling job then

If only it were that easy.

 

[replacement]

Seeing this many "likes" really makes me question the sanity and intelligence in this world. There isn't a single reason to like this. Give me a reason and I'll tell you why you're wrong. And if it has anything to do with the rarity or value of cars, the fact is that it's too late—tons of people already duped them.

Ok here's my reason for liking... I miss when back in the day games were hard, you had to work to get through to the end and there was a feeling of excitement, prestige, honor, rarity, whatever you want to call it, in finding things or getting to a point relatively few players would have made it, seeing something the majority of other players would not... that feeling has of course been fully eliminated by duping (and honestly what prestige, really what POINT is there is playing "legitimately" to say buy some $20mil cars when you could just save up once and dupe everything in the game... that loophole makes it a waste of time NOT TO DUPE, which is why I did it a couple times for some $5mil cars).

Now, to address your issue of it being too late. Better late than never... NOW when I work and eventually save up to get a certain car I at least no that nobody is duping them around hence making my effort pointless (again why would I waste my time if there's an easier way). Think of it this way, would I rather have a game with an instant option to unlock all cheats, or have the opportunity to earn it... I think it's a much stronger game if it makes you earn it.

Finally, as far as grinding is concerned, the addition of seasonal events that allow you to rack up a few million in credits has already fixed 90% of the grinding problems. Now a few more additions to seasonals, basically making it more of an extended and ever-changing A-spec, and there will be no room for those who want to complain about how much grinding they have to do. I'm not gonna waste my time grinding anyways, I'll enjoy online and other aspects of the game in between completing seasonal bonus races.

In the end it sounds like this gifting ban will be lifted anyways and things back to the old way, which I feel takes away some mystique from the game. Doesn't bother me hugely either way, but I think the game better suits my taste WITH the gifting cap (or other anti-duping reg).

 

[Crumpet]

I think it should've been like that from the beginning.
I also got some expensive cars gifted by friends (without asking), I thanked them etc. but it actually made the "rare" and expensive cars in the game a joke since everyone could get them for free (I traded a Cusco Subaru against an F10 here, I mean, come on...). Now you will have to be careful on which cars you spend your money and you will appreciate the cars more once you own them.

By the way, don't forget that you can "rent" cars from friends now, so if you need a car for a special event or photo session, ask someone.

Thanks for posting that. 👍

 

[Shugo(fox)]

Not completely for it but it does make users play the game fairly and it will decrease the scamming significantly.

 

[Rudenut]

Ok here's my reason for liking... I miss when back in the day games were hard, you had to work to get through to the end and there was a feeling of excitement, prestige, honor, rarity, whatever you want to call it, in finding things or getting to a point relatively few players would have made it, seeing something the majority of other players would not... that feeling has of course been fully eliminated by duping (and honestly what prestige, really what POINT is there is playing "legitimately" to say buy some $20mil cars when you could just save up once and dupe everything in the game... that loophole makes it a waste of time NOT TO DUPE, which is why I did it a couple times for some $5mil cars).

Now, to address your issue of it being too late. Better late than never... NOW when I work and eventually save up to get a certain car I at least no that nobody is duping them around hence making my effort pointless (again why would I waste my time if there's an easier way). Think of it this way, would I rather have a game with an instant option to unlock all cheats, or have the opportunity to earn it... I think it's a much stronger game if it makes you earn it.

Finally, as far as grinding is concerned, the addition of seasonal events that allow you to rack up a few million in credits has already fixed 90% of the grinding problems. Now a few more additions to seasonals, basically making it more of an extended and ever-changing A-spec, and there will be no room for those who want to complain about how much grinding they have to do. I'm not gonna waste my time grinding anyways, I'll enjoy online and other aspects of the game in between completing seasonal bonus races.

In the end it sounds like this gifting ban will be lifted anyways and things back to the old way, which I feel takes away some mystique from the game. Doesn't bother me hugely either way, but I think the game better suits my taste WITH the gifting cap (or other anti-duping reg).

A: You stole my avatar.

B: Find another way to stroke your ego that does not involve me. The fact that you find valuein achieving something that few others will, as you say. Something that is not difficult at all, but is tedious is very, very sad.

 

[badpoet]

Ok here's my reason for liking... I miss when back in the day games were hard, you had to work to get through to the end and there was a feeling of excitement, prestige, honor, rarity, whatever you want to call it, in finding things or getting to a point relatively few players would have made it, seeing something the majority of other players would not... that feeling has of course been fully eliminated by duping (and honestly what prestige, really what POINT is there is playing "legitimately" to say buy some $20mil cars when you could just save up once and dupe everything in the game... that loophole makes it a waste of time NOT TO DUPE, which is why I did it a couple times for some $5mil cars).

That's really great. Except other people might want to play the game a differently and they're not hurting anyone or anything by doing it. It doesn't effect your gameplay at all. So, why would you care?

Now, to address your issue of it being too late. Better late than never... NOW when I work and eventually save up to get a certain car I at least no that nobody is duping them around hence making my effort pointless (again why would I waste my time if there's an easier way). Think of it this way, would I rather have a game with an instant option to unlock all cheats, or have the opportunity to earn it... I think it's a much stronger game if it makes you earn it.

This can be argued two ways. Either A) your effort is pointless regardless because you're talking about pixels or B) your effort is never pointless &#8211; you know you achieved your goal the way you wanted to and that's all that really matters. Then again, I think the trophy system on the PS3 is the biggest waste of time ever implemented. I don't care to measure my E-peen against anyone and the pop ups get annoying.

Finally, as far as grinding is concerned, the addition of seasonal events that allow you to rack up a few million in credits has already fixed 90% of the grinding problems. Now a few more additions to seasonals, basically making it more of an extended and ever-changing A-spec, and there will be no room for those who want to complain about how much grinding they have to do. I'm not gonna waste my time grinding anyways, I'll enjoy online and other aspects of the game in between completing seasonal bonus races.

It's still a grind, especially in B-Spec. Remote racing helps that a bit, though.

In the end it sounds like this gifting ban will be lifted anyways and things back to the old way, which I feel takes away some mystique from the game. Doesn't bother me hugely either way, but I think the game better suits my taste WITH the gifting cap (or other anti-duping reg).

Great, but you already have the option of playing the game in a non-duping manner, like I do. Why would you want to ruin what is fun for someone else when it has zero impact on you, unless YOU let it?

 

[mclifted]

I spent money on a game that is being dismantled by the creators, good job, losers. I wont be buying anymore of their products, Shift 2 here I come.

 

[Samus]

What I find funny is that all the dupers always told non-dupers to mind their own business, and why should we care what they're doing. And they're right, I didn't care what they were doing, now suddenly they can't do it and suddenly expect us to give a damn? Nope, still don't care.

 

[curtis_boy]

I spent money on a game that is being dismantled by the creators, good job, losers. I wont be buying anymore of their products, Shift 2 here I come.

Cool story, didnt know people couldnt wait 5 years for this game to release so they can get their GIFTING on.

 

[mazda787]

Hmm... I just gifted my Lister Storm to my secondary account.

 

[replacement]

Find another way to stroke your ego that does not involve me. The fact that you find valuein achieving something that few others will, as you say. Something that is not difficult at all, but is tedious is very, very sad.

I would love nothing more than a bunch of $1mil prize seasonal races that are extremely difficult to win, then those who can consistently do it get to buy the most valuable cars... how you got that I would enjoy anything "tedious" from my response is beyond me and tells me you didn't really attempt to understand what I wrote, just saw someone disagreeing with you so you jumped on it.

 

[Laughlyn]

I spent money on a game that is being dismantled by the creators, good job, losers. I wont be buying anymore of their products, Shift 2 here I come.

al be pretty much same when it comes out, GT5 will hardly go near my ps3 once i have that. i've been getting bored of the constant grind of GT5. i'm lv31 on a-spec nad 35 on b-spec n theres just nothing to play for, we need a new mid tier series or more seasonals more often.
Maybe they should introduce the higher cost cars like the miura as a prize car for a seasonal event?

 

[speedy_2]

The reason it was restricted, I like.

The fact that it can't be done for a legit reason now, sucks.

Basically, the dupers ruined it for everybody. Thanks a lot guys. Also, this is Gran Turismo, not "Duping-Turismo." Seems like everyone wants to bail on this game because of a secondary feature. Fail.

 

[Rudenut]

What I find funny is that all the dupers always told non-dupers to mind their own business, and why should we care what they're doing. And they're right, I didn't care what they were doing, now suddenly they can't do it and suddenly expect us to give a damn? Nope, still don't care.

If you didn't care you aren't the one being asked to know. The anti-dupe lobby is likely patially to blaim though. If you didn't take part in telling others how to play then I thank you for keeping your "faith" to yourself.

 

[replacement]

That's really great. Except other people might want to play the game a differently and they're not hurting anyone or anything by doing it. It doesn't effect your gameplay at all. So, why would you care?

Let me put it this way... by your logic every game could have an option to instantly unlock all content at any point, unlimited wallet, all cars, whatever... then it's each persons own choice to activate this or not, and it won't "affect" your gameplay if you don't, right? Well my point is that there's a reason why games DON'T do this, it kinda ruins the experience, even if you were to NOT go that route it just cheapens the whole thing.

 

[Rudenut]

I would love nothing more than a bunch of $1mil prize seasonal races that are extremely difficult to win, then those who can consistently do it get to buy the most valuable cars... how you got that I would enjoy anything "tedious" from my response is beyond me and tells me you didn't really attempt to understand what I wrote, just saw someone disagreeing with you so you jumped on it.

Ah, but you voted that you liked the change. I would possibly not care about it (not likely) if there was not such a grind. However, I voted no because now that is all that is left.

 

[replacement]

^^^I think think it's jumping ahead to assume that the current events are how they'll be forever. PD has implemented many positive changes so in the end I like it because it pushes things in a positive direction (we're more likely to get those better seasonals if we can't dupe).

 

[Rudenut]

Let me put it this way... by your logic every game could have an option to instantly unlock all content at any point, unlimited wallet, all cars, whatever... then it's each persons own choice to activate this or not, and it won't "affect" your gameplay if you don't, right? Well my point is that there's a reason why games DON'T do this, it kinda ruins the experience, even if you were to NOT go that route it just cheapens the whole thing.

Not to me. And that is significant, as your statement that it will cheapen the game is wholly your opinion. I enjoy driving the cars, not attaining them. My friends and I like to race whatever we want, when we want. The skill is in the racing, not the aquiring of cars.

 

[Rudenut]

^^^I think think it's jumping ahead to assume that the current seasonals are how they'll be forever. PD has implemented many positive changes so in the end I like it because it pushes things in a positive direction (we're more likely to get those better seasonals if we can't dupe).

If all events gave a random car ticket I might be on board....