This sucks, LOL. I voted dislike because I'm an honest trader and car collector as well as a racer.
This limits a lot of things for us who also enjoy the car-collecting side of the game. I understand the obvious exploit of getting free cars and such, as I've done it before too (that's how I got both Ferrari F1s for free anway
), and them (meaning PD) trying to address the issues, but sheesh! This was a bit too much. Trading was one of the very best features in this game. And I met a lot of good people through it too. Online, yes, was indeed cluttered with people who had X2010s and other insane cars that they didn't deserve and/or acquire legitimately, but that's what lobby restrictions are all about. Besides, a game that's sold this much, and has a fanbase this big, expect way more than a few idiots to ruin your day. Online can be like Call of Duty, except with cars.
I don't understand why they would limit the trade to cars that pretty much anyone can buy without much hassle or are affordable through an easy 20 or so minutes of racing Indy (you know, that Indy). I don't care about your Enzo or F1. Or your Focus RS, or your Volvo C30, when I can go make a quick buck (a really quick buck, I might add) and buy one myself from the new dealership. I'm more interested in your shiny red X2010, or your prestigious Chaparral 2J, because I'm not about to spend 5 years grinding just to get one car... only to end up broke from buying it, and having to do it again
At least allow really high end cars (race cars, cars worth 7 figures and such) to be sold for something in return (like 1/3 or 1/4 of the original price before it was bought), instead of getting rid of it for nothing, or return the ability to win prize cars over and over again (this could help immensely). Or heeeeeyyyyy... how about even more races to do! (And NO, I'm not talking about the seasonals, they're great). I mean, expanding A-spec (or at least B-spec, for that matter) so that it's got depth like previous GTs, or more (now there's an afterthought 💡).
For those in favor of this patch, and against "cheaters" (or whatever it is you guys believe us to be), think about it for a minute. No one got hurt duping. And yeah, it was unfair, to see newbies with the entire Le Mans squad in their garage (so why not do the same, and join them? Trading is fun after all), but majority of us aren't hermits, and have far more important things to do. You guys also have to remember that this is just a game, and who cares what you do in it, or to it, so long as it doesn't affect others and ruin it for them (and it didn't, other than a few feelings of envy and/or jealousy, with a mix of disappointment and distaste). This in time will alienate HUGE amounts of people (unless... unless of course, it's fixed again, and then another round of complaining commences). GT won't have that same online community feel to it that made it so very special in my tiny library of great PS3 games.
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Just my 2 cents.
3 great posts that I 100% agree with.
Those saying that duping affects you online. Well thats your fault then isn't it? You either don't go into the rooms that are full of idiots in their X2010's or you set restrictions on your own room. It's simple really.
Also, the X2010 is a bag of crap anyway. Its a stupid, pointless, completely unrealistic, absolutely ridiculous car. I have got one but only for B-Spec grinding cause it makes it so much quicker, I will never, ever drive it myself though.
I'll happily spend a couple of million on a car but anything over that then I'll back up my data and "buy" it for free as I simply cannot be bothered to waste my time grinding or redoing races that I've already done. The biggest money is the Dream Car Championship and to grind that enough times, in B-Spec using the X2010, to buy a 20,000,000 car, would take more than 20 goes, at around an hour and half a time thats somewhere around the 30 hour mark. More than a day of constant grinding just to buy one car, after which you'll be back at zero credits and you've got to do more monotonous grinding if you want to buy another car.
Duping hurts absolutely no-one. I've legitimately gone through the game to a point where there isn't much more that I can do (or want to do) so what is wrong with me doing the occasional back-up to get a car for free instead of throwing all my credits down the drain that I've wasted hour after hour after hour grinding to get?
Hopefully GT6 won't be as flawed. So that:
a) Duplicating will not be possible, possibly by means of online backups of saves that syncs with your ps3, with no option to back up your save manually like you can in GT5
b) Rewards for races later in the game become greater so they can refund the money paid for the car quickly*
c) The presence of a used car dealership will be combined with an extensive online marketplace, trading, selling, auctioning etc.**
d) The 20 million credit cap will be increased to a higher figure, it's just a number, increasing this figure to say 1,000,000,000 should be adequate to make sure if anybody reaches it, they will never need any more.***
*So I don't have to run the same event 5+ times simply to recoup the money I paid for the car I entered with - especially with racing cars (LMP, SuperGT, DTM etc.), as most of the teams who use these cars actually make a profit over a single season due to advertising revenue.
**So that rare cars actually have some value, and can still be obtained from other players online if they are not available in the UCD. Or remove the UCD altogether and have a GT3 style dealership (Every car listed as new in the dealerships).
***The most expensive car in GT4 was 4.5million credits right? I don't remember any cap on there...
The current situation sucks, because of basic flaws in the game. This argument has gone on long enough and is pointless, because both sides are right and the game is broken.
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What do you think about the fact that cars over 1,000,000 credits cannot be gifted?
EDIT #1: Guys, let's not try to get this thread closed.
EDIT #2: Please stay on topic.
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