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Presidential Election: 2012
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Good one Dennisch
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Looks like I'm sending a letter to Bowling Green tomorrow.
If I get a response, and what it says, will determine if I send a follow up package with a campaign shirt in it. I have a feeling I won't be needing it.
If I get a response, and what it says, will determine if I send a follow up package with a campaign shirt in it. I have a feeling I won't be needing it.
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I already sent him two tweets. Doubt I'll get a response, but I did point out who I was in the picture taken on the capital steps the day he filed to run for office.
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I think this is purely a political move. I certainly hope so. I hope Paul will hold Romney to whatever it was he said to Paul to convince him to give the endorsement.
This whole thing certainly doesn't help the Ron Paul, Nepotist conspiracy though.
This whole thing certainly doesn't help the Ron Paul, Nepotist conspiracy though.
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It's called realpolitik.
I think this is a smart move - despite a tremendous effort by the Ron Paul campaign, he never stood a chance of winning the nomination, no matter what the Daily Paul might have told you. The game was up a long time ago, and now it's time to face reality.
Ron Paul has arguably achieved what he set out to achieve - to build support from the grassroots in the hope that this support translates into what really counts in the future - votes. Those who believed that Ron Paul could have won this time around were either wildly optimistic or, perhaps more sympathetically, underestimating of the Herculean task that Ron Paul faced. Back in the real world, though, it was always about the long term - 2016 atleast - and not just about rocking the boat this time around.
In this case, realpolitik has defeated ronpaulitic, but Ron Paul can walk away with his head held high.
I think this is a smart move - despite a tremendous effort by the Ron Paul campaign, he never stood a chance of winning the nomination, no matter what the Daily Paul might have told you. The game was up a long time ago, and now it's time to face reality.
Ron Paul has arguably achieved what he set out to achieve - to build support from the grassroots in the hope that this support translates into what really counts in the future - votes. Those who believed that Ron Paul could have won this time around were either wildly optimistic or, perhaps more sympathetically, underestimating of the Herculean task that Ron Paul faced. Back in the real world, though, it was always about the long term - 2016 atleast - and not just about rocking the boat this time around.
In this case, realpolitik has defeated ronpaulitic, but Ron Paul can walk away with his head held high.
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When your support and entire career has been about principles and your final act betrays that notion of principles first I'm not sure head held high is how it should go.Touring Mars
Keep in mind, Rand Paul was elected as the anti-establishment candidate. We were voting for someone who would be above playing party politics. This feels like party politics in line with the establishment. This is the exact opposite of what we were voting for.
If this guarantees Rand's political future it makes us wonder what else he will trade for that. Increased spending plans? Supporting theocratic policies?
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Wow, that's heartbreaking.
The whole idea behind Rand and Ron Paul is that the republicans and democrats are fairly indistinguishable from each other - that Romney and Obama are hard to tell apart. For Rand Paul to come out and endorse Romney flies in the face of that. He should have stayed below the radar for a while and continued his position that politics as usual is pointless.
What a pathetic human being. He's dead to me. Best hopes for the present and best hopes for the future died at the same time, how sad.
The whole idea behind Rand and Ron Paul is that the republicans and democrats are fairly indistinguishable from each other - that Romney and Obama are hard to tell apart. For Rand Paul to come out and endorse Romney flies in the face of that. He should have stayed below the radar for a while and continued his position that politics as usual is pointless.
What a pathetic human being. He's dead to me. Best hopes for the present and best hopes for the future died at the same time, how sad.
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I will continue to support Rand Paul only if he becomes a true leader in the senate, where, if Romney wins, he will crack down on the white house if they get out of line. The tea party caucus right now is three senators: Mike Lee, Jim DeMint, and Rand Paul. We need much more.
I've said all along that the one good thing about Romney beating Obama is that it would show Presidents that they don't get 8 years to dawdle around. You have four years and if you suck you're out. I'm tired of Presidents spending their four years focusing on getting re-elected.
I've said all along that the one good thing about Romney beating Obama is that it would show Presidents that they don't get 8 years to dawdle around. You have four years and if you suck you're out. I'm tired of Presidents spending their four years focusing on getting re-elected.
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That is the fundamental problem with the system. The entire first term is predicated on how it will effect the frat term. I think we should just go to a single six year term. That takes the pressure of re-election off the table.Omnis
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I was surprised by CNN today, and talking about the Obama camp talking facts out of context or just flat out ignoring them when talking about Romney. We are all aware of Romney doing this, along with the double standards created by each of their super pacs.
Either way it was a change of pace to me from CNN, but then again we must remember that this back and forth to expose both sides to confuse the populus is the name of the game. Since they never advocate a real solution.
Either way it was a change of pace to me from CNN, but then again we must remember that this back and forth to expose both sides to confuse the populus is the name of the game. Since they never advocate a real solution.
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Just a really long explanation about Rand Paul playing party politics. I'm not impressed. I was concerned that the republicans would try to marginalize and coopt the support that Ron Paul had generated by putting him on as VP. Putting Rand Paul on as VP would definitely accomplish that just as well.
Endorsing Romney because he's in the same party is just such a character flaw. It seems unprincipled and opportunistic and everything we hate about politics because it is.
Endorsing Romney because he's in the same party is just such a character flaw. It seems unprincipled and opportunistic and everything we hate about politics because it is.
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