Project CARS General Discussion Thread
- Thread starter Terronium-12
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- psychoazubi
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- VVV_Mars_VG
Actually I have mentioned it on multiple occasions, notable every time somebody blames my recording equipment and even on neogaf here http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=160620091&postcount=646
People have been so preoccupied with frame rate they've not really been listening.
As ever, YT videos give a good indication of what to expect, you've seen how it looks and plays, now there's enough information out there for consumers to make up their own mind whether they want to purchase the title, or not.
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I've just been into game and the ghosting IS visible in game but really on,y noticeable when turning. On the straights it looks like motion blur, when turning both cars and track detail turn to mush!
I can't buy it like this and am now cancelling my digital ps4 order and grabbing the Xbox. Lesser fx but no mush!
I urge all of you to go see for yourself!
I can't buy it like this and am now cancelling my digital ps4 order and grabbing the Xbox. Lesser fx but no mush!
I urge all of you to go see for yourself!
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- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
Spooky Wooky
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- sp00ky-w00ky-
After all this time we are only just finding out about major problems with the game?
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- chen-255
This is the explanation that I'm going with. From what I've seen it is the truth.
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How ironic that your post is on top of page 501
It was on page 500 for me, pressed refresh, it ghosted over to 501
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If you call some blur seen in paused screen captures a major problem.
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Except Alan from VVV just posted he has noticed issues with the blur and linked to his post on NG.
I just played the game in GAME and can confirm its a mess when turning. On the straights it looks like motion blur, but when turning the screen becomes one big mush/smear.
The best way to demonstrate it is to go slow around a corner with cars in front of you (turn 1 of any race) and the screen becomes pixel soup! It's outrageous! How is this only now getting noticed.
There is another guy on his way to GAME in Edinburgh, so let's see what he says too. But Alan, Myself and no doubt a few others will confirm that the blur is an issue!
This might explain Ian bells remarks staring that he preferred the Xbox version!
Spooky Wooky
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- sp00ky-w00ky-
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- Termite111
I still don't get it. I've watched VVV 's videos lots of times and I never notice this ghostin. I watch these vidoes as I intend to play them racing. Eyes fixed on the road/cars ahead and I don't notice it at all.
I think a lot of you are getting caught up in things that's can only be spotted when really scrutinising videos to every bloody single frame And not looking at it as if you was racing.
I think a lot of you are getting caught up in things that's can only be spotted when really scrutinising videos to every bloody single frame And not looking at it as if you was racing.
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- psychoazubi
Is it possible to turn Motion Blur on/off on the PS4 version?
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I literally just played the game in GAME and it's a blurry mess when turning and Alan of Team VVV just posted that the frame rate is not an issue but the blur IS!
Honestly, can you get into game today, if so, go and play it, on the straights it's fine, but turning is just a blurry mess.
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- novcze
You do realize that can be fixed via game update while hw. difference is here to stay.
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- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
Ok, suddenly this thread turned from ghosting problems to a motion blur problem discussion. I for myself would have wished to be able to switch off motion blur on consoles too. Never liked the effect and it is eating render time for breakfast.
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- VVV_Mars_VG
The motion blur is seen throughout but it is not something that has hampered my enjoyment in any way.
It is highlighted more when you pause the videos, as you can see its not always as clear in motion.
Having said that, I'm all about frame rate and with the new gen consoles disappointing in their overall performance, compromise is going to become the norm.
On the whole there is a lot of over analysis, not enough focus on the game itself.
It is highlighted more when you pause the videos, as you can see its not always as clear in motion.
Having said that, I'm all about frame rate and with the new gen consoles disappointing in their overall performance, compromise is going to become the norm.
On the whole there is a lot of over analysis, not enough focus on the game itself.
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- MCGERTY
This has been confirmed as NO already in this thread
What pisses me off even far back as January I asked the very same question even on a live stream one Saturday in March and every answer was YES. Now we hear you cannot turn of this blurriness.
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- yellowbeard_uk
I've not read all the 500 pages of this thread, so I don't know if this has been asked but .... I've just googled 'motion blur PS4' to look into it and found peoples issues on other games seem to have been resolved by switching 'gaming mode' on on the tv being used .... does anybody know the settings being used on the tv's in the videos ?
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- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
Capturing happens before any image processing is done by the TV. Non 'Game' modes on TV mostly introduce input lag, so the 'Game' mode or 'Direct' Mode disables image processing on the TVs to deliver frames as fast as possible.
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- chen-255
Yes, it's starting to look like that is exactly what has happened. We know motion blur is in the game, that's very different from the double image seen when freezing the video capture.
I think Alan from Team VVV's post has just served to confuse the issue.
He has consistently said in his YT videos that PCars on PS4 is a gorgeous looking game, and went into good detail about replay mode including pausing the replay, slow motion forward and backward, zooming in and out and panning around the car paused in replay, and it was sharp as anything, the problem was not present. He would have definitely made an issue of it if it was present (ghosting/double image blurry mess especially when pausing).
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You may be right. I also did not notice it during gameplay. But people need to try it out now beforing buying. They should release a demo
If this issue is there and noticeable now in the game it is going to flop big time which is a shame. They had great chance as DC is the only proper car game and they could cash in with no official info on GT7. In Xbone Forza6 will probably release this year. But for PS4 they could done themselves a favor. Who know what else is wrong with the game ? It might just be another shift3 
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- Flaw3dGenius23
Is it only the PS4 that has this blurry look? So far not seen it on any Xbox or PC vids.
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- Flaw3dGenius23
It's supposed to be due to the way they have implemented AA on PS4 rather than it being motion blur...Being able to turn it off would most likely make it look like a jaggyfest.
What us PS4 owners need is for them to use the same AA on PS4 as they do Xbone even if it brings the picture down to 900p
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Good to hear mate, thanks for that
It's nothing to do with AA, it is the per object motion blur they have used on PS4.
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I agree Alan, however we are trying to buy the best burger for our money! Do we get a Big Mac or a Whopper!
Can you at least understand that people who have both consoles want to buy the best version.
I have just played project cars in GAME and I absolute love your Channel and videos, I'm also considering becoming a patron. However, I honestly can't recommend the ps4 version I played today over a pc on low/med.
I can see the mush in screen when turning (the ghosting causes a blurry mess on screen) are you going on the record and stating that you don't notice it? If so that's surprising and worrying at the same time.
I can assure you, that if it turned me off, it'll turn other users off too.
I will admit, I never knew about it until I read it here, but I had played on pc, and had only seen videos. After hearing about the issue I went to game, did a few tests and can categorically state that the blur/ghosting when turning is unacceptable and in my opinion I would not recommend this to anyone who cares about clarity. I would suggest pc or Xbox. If you DONT care about clarity, then yes the ps4 version is fine. But you need to get off the fence as it sounds like your scared to make a commitment one way or the other?
If you want a community funded site surly you need to have us trust you and know that we want yo know the truth and that means the good with the bad. I won't pay to have someone not help clarify my purchase?
