PS4K - Revealed Alongside PS4 Slim as PS4 Pro - General DiscussionPS4 

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Only thing it made me want is get an HDR TV, are these cheap?

After a quick Google, it seems HDR is paired with UHD, OLED, or Smart TV capabilities, drastically raising the price of said TV. Though I imagine once Scorpio and Pro release, budget-friendly HDR TVs will come in droves. It's already happening with 4K TVs.
 
After a quick Google, it seems HDR is paired with UHD, OLED, or Smart TV capabilities, drastically raising the price of said TV. Though I imagine once Scorpio and Pro release, budget-friendly HDR TVs will come in droves. It's already happening with 4K TVs.

Welp I'm out then, If people want to spend that much money on console gaming fair play but that's now what I play on a console.

@PzR Slim No thanks then.
 
Premier league football on my 4K tv looks appreciable better when I view the UHD feed compared to the HD feed.

Which could be attributed to the bitrate on the 4k feed versus the HD feed.
A better way to test if the resolution actually matters is to watch a Blu-Ray movie followed by a UHD Blu-Ray movie, or by comparing a full HD picture to a UHD one. I don't know how big your TV is or how far away you sit from it, but as long as you can't see individual pixels, upping the resolution won't do anything for the picture quality. A good HDR TV can provide a substantial upgrade, but it's yet to fully mature.
 
The Pro somehow looks uglier than the ordinary Slim variant. Most people probably won't have a clue about all this HDR stuff as they'll be too distracted by all the new shiny particle effects.
 
Which could be attributed to the bitrate on the 4k feed versus the HD feed.
A better way to test if the resolution actually matters is to watch a Blu-Ray movie followed by a UHD Blu-Ray movie, or by comparing a full HD picture to a UHD one. I don't know how big your TV is or how far away you sit from it, but as long as you can't see individual pixels, upping the resolution won't do anything for the picture quality. A good HDR TV, however, can provide a substantial upgrade.
I've done all of that and my experience tells a different story but you carry on telling me what I'm seeing ;)
 
Really glad they drove home the point that this is not a next gen console but rather a premium PS4 for more hardcore gamers.

So we'll see the PS5 afterall
 
Wait, it doesn't have a 4k BluRay drive?!?!


You have got to be kidding me!

I know streaming is the present/future but a lot of movie buffs like a physical copy and those with expensive Internet are not going to be happy with that.
 
They did a pretty poor job selling the system, but... it's exactly what the rumors pointed towards, and that's fine. I think I prefer Microsoft's approach of embracing the blurring of generational lines, as opposed to Sony's placating those who irrationally fear change.

Even though hardware continues to improve, when it comes to what that power can accomplish for gaming... we're deep in the depths of diminishing returns. 99% of PS5 titles would likely be perfectly feasible on the PS4, even if the visuals have to be dumbed down to a meager 1080p 30 FPS... and if the PS5 utilizes the same X86 architecture, there's no reason why there should be separate PS4 and PS5 versions. It should be one disc or download that works on both, and just so happens to get a visual boost from the extra power of the PS5.
 
Another market Sony gradually pulling out of? Their focus on streaming services suggests so. Seems a good chance PS5 will have no disc drive at all.
 
Neogaf doesn't waste time :lol:

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You mean they are raising this hooplah about a more powerful 4K capable system, and they didn't even make it able to go hit for hit with the XBone S in actual 4K functionality?
 
I like how the PS4 Prororororo is still only 44,980 yen. :lol:



Yeah. I saw a leaked image of it a day or two ago and dismissed it as a very poorly done fake. Oops.
imo the slim was bad enough, but this is just stacked waffles now.
 
I've done all of that and my experience tells a different story but you carry on telling me what I'm seeing ;)

Allow me to set up an example. We have a 50 inch 1080 TV next to a 4K TV that is the same size, both showing the same picture, but each at their native resolution, and we're ignoring all other things related to picture quality. We're standing 3 meters away from the TV's, and for the sake of the argument, we are facing both TV's head on. At this distance, it is physically impossible for most, if not everyone, to see individual pixels. As such, if we ignore any other picture related features, we essentially see the same picture. The picture on the 4K TV is technically better, but our eyes can't perceive it.

That's all resolution is. It's a greater collection of pixels. 4K TV's do have features that result in significantly greater picture quality, but if you intend to sit at a distance where it was impossible for you to tell apart the individual pixels on an equal sized 1080 TV, then the added resolution on a 4K TV won't matter. The other features can still make it worthwhile though.

If you, or anyone else, know something about resolution that I don't, then feel very free to educate me.
 
Allow me to set up an example. We have a 50 inch 1080 TV next to a 4K TV that is the same size, both showing the same picture, but each at their native resolution, and we're ignoring all other things related to picture quality. We're standing 3 meters away from the TV's, and for the sake of the argument, we are facing both TV's head on. At this distance, it is physically impossible for most, if not everyone, to see individual pixels. As such, if we ignore any other picture related features, we essentially see the same picture. The picture on the 4K TV is technically better, but our eyes can't perceive it.

That's all resolution is. It's a greater collection of pixels. 4K TV's do have features that result in significantly greater picture quality, but if you intend to sit at a distance where it was impossible for you to tell apart the individual pixels on an equal sized 1080 TV, then the added resolution on a 4K TV won't matter. The other features can still make it worthwhile though.

I don't entirely think this argument is valid.

Aliasing is what happens when you can make out the pixelation of an edge. If you can discern aliasing, you could benefit from a higher resolution display even if you can't distinguish individual pixels. Anti-aliasing techniques help hide aliasing, but also softens the image so it's inferior to increasing the actual resolution.
 

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