Racism - Ignored?
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You should've been a comedian! Care to elaborate on this? How am I a racist?
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Swift what argument have I dodged. I will glady carry on.
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I know that. I'd just like to know how Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians are more "racist" than Whites. What empirical evidence does he have that suggests that this is true. I live/lived in a city that was nearly bankrupted due to racism -- not from minorities, but from certain people who refused to integrate schools/housing.
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Young_Warrior
Not sure where you get black people from, I didnt even mention anything specific.
About the talking, don't you get aggrevated when you can't understand someone? And maybe Hate is a big word for how somoene talks, maybe just dislike for their speech.
Ebonics needs to die out, fast.
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I know black people that may not be racist towards whites, but sure do show a lot of agression towards them for no reason whatsoever, even me, mostly when I was in highschool though. And yes, it really was for no reason at all, most of the time me and other white kids in class just sit there and mind our own business.
And I've never once seen any one white/other kid show any beginning agression towards them at all.
And I've never once seen any one white/other kid show any beginning agression towards them at all.
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As a result of...?
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Why are minorities more inclined to be racist based on your personal experiences? Does it have anything to do with the fact that whites are a majority in this country (overall -- not area specific)? Where I'm from (and based on my experiences) ~90% of the racism comes from whatever majority happens to be living in that area. I'm just trying to figure out how/why...
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MrktMkr1986
Well a white person isnt exactly going to be rascist towards you. What rascist stuff do they do?
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sicbeing
Because theyre gangsters. duh
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Swift
I have nothing to argue against these statements. Butttttttttt.............. If one person says your doneky is a mule then its a donkey but if 10 people say your donkey is a mule then its a mule.
I dont like the way everything is one sided. its ok for chris rock to get up onstage and exploit every stereotype of a white person in the book followed by every cuss word; but a white person has to stumble over the word black when referring to another person because they're afraid to be called racist. im not saying it should be okay for us to make fun of other races i just think other races shouldnt be hypocrites.
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MrktMkr1986
I don't know why most of the racism I've seen is from minorities. I don't see any reason why they should engage in such self-destructive behavior - except that as long as they help perpetuate stereotypes they belong to a protected sector of society. Playing the victim can be addictive.
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Yeah in america white kids be saying n***a for ages now. If its all in good nature then its ok but people like fat joe who use it in their songs everyother line should be shot.
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Perhaps...
...and is it of your opinion that these stereotypes play a factor in the racial discrimination directed towards minorities (or the majority for that matter)?
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MrktMkr1986
These stereotypes and the general use of race as any sort of indicator are the reason any racism is still around. That many blacks and hispanics feel free to point out skin color at every junction and discriminate against white people is the problem.
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danoff
Where do you live exactly?
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Here's the deal.
People like to be members of groups. It makes them feel safe. They like to be accepted for something other then their achievements. They like not to have to "earn" their status within the group. The tribe mentality is very strong in people and exists in many ways.
Tribes offer two main services - protection for no reason other than that you were in the tribe, and a lack of any responsibility for your life due to tribe rules.
Examples of this can be seen in every backwater town in Texas where townsfolk are expected to live by town traditions (and very happily comply). By conforming to these traditions, people remove all responsibility for their choices and place that responsibility on the traditions of the town. Similarly they know that by being part of the tribe, they will be protected by other members and that they do not have to earn that protection.
Another example is the mafia. The "family" accepts you from birth so long as you play by the rules of the family. You have protection for no other reason than that you belong... all you have to do is play by their rules.
Again, offers the apparent lack of responsibility of one's choices and protection regardless of how inept you are.
Another (weaker) example is Christianity. Again, all you have to do is play by the rules - live your life according to the bible etc. etc. - and you will have a support group within the church. Similarly you no longer feel responsible for the choices you make... simply conform your choices to the teachings of the bible and you will be ok.
Over and over throughout history the tribe mentality can be seen. Sometimes it's focused on a particular leader, such as Hitler or Jesus. Other times it's focused on something more abstract, like where you were born or what part of the town you live in. Regardless, the appeal is the same. Unearned protection, and a removal of responsibility.
Largely, those two things coincide with a lack of intelligent thought. Life requires much less understanding and thought if you don't have to earn what you get from others. Life requires much less thought if your choices are prescribed to you by the tribe.
This is the case with race. I'll pick on African Americans at the moment. By being black, you are born into a "community" (tribe). This tribe will protect you simply because you are black, so long as you conform to the ways of the community (namely you have to not sell out and you have to blame things on white people). By doing this you remove responsibility for your actions.
So the African American Tribe (much like Christianity or the Mafia) offers two things. Unearned protection (social protections such as affirmative action or race based scholarships, as well as minority status which offers alternative benefits like discrimination lawsuits), and the removal or responsibility (It's not my fault I'm poor, I've been discriminated against).
Don't dismiss this so quickly. This kind of incentive is VERY powerful. Being in a socially protected class (like Blacks or women or hispanics... or anything except white male) is a strong incentive. Similarly, anything that removes responsibility for your own life has been shown, time and again throughout human history, to be very powerful. People are quite scared of being held responsible for themselves (see welfare and other redistribution of wealth programs).
People like to be members of groups. It makes them feel safe. They like to be accepted for something other then their achievements. They like not to have to "earn" their status within the group. The tribe mentality is very strong in people and exists in many ways.
Tribes offer two main services - protection for no reason other than that you were in the tribe, and a lack of any responsibility for your life due to tribe rules.
Examples of this can be seen in every backwater town in Texas where townsfolk are expected to live by town traditions (and very happily comply). By conforming to these traditions, people remove all responsibility for their choices and place that responsibility on the traditions of the town. Similarly they know that by being part of the tribe, they will be protected by other members and that they do not have to earn that protection.
Another example is the mafia. The "family" accepts you from birth so long as you play by the rules of the family. You have protection for no other reason than that you belong... all you have to do is play by their rules.
Again, offers the apparent lack of responsibility of one's choices and protection regardless of how inept you are.
Another (weaker) example is Christianity. Again, all you have to do is play by the rules - live your life according to the bible etc. etc. - and you will have a support group within the church. Similarly you no longer feel responsible for the choices you make... simply conform your choices to the teachings of the bible and you will be ok.
Over and over throughout history the tribe mentality can be seen. Sometimes it's focused on a particular leader, such as Hitler or Jesus. Other times it's focused on something more abstract, like where you were born or what part of the town you live in. Regardless, the appeal is the same. Unearned protection, and a removal of responsibility.
Largely, those two things coincide with a lack of intelligent thought. Life requires much less understanding and thought if you don't have to earn what you get from others. Life requires much less thought if your choices are prescribed to you by the tribe.
This is the case with race. I'll pick on African Americans at the moment. By being black, you are born into a "community" (tribe). This tribe will protect you simply because you are black, so long as you conform to the ways of the community (namely you have to not sell out and you have to blame things on white people). By doing this you remove responsibility for your actions.
So the African American Tribe (much like Christianity or the Mafia) offers two things. Unearned protection (social protections such as affirmative action or race based scholarships, as well as minority status which offers alternative benefits like discrimination lawsuits), and the removal or responsibility (It's not my fault I'm poor, I've been discriminated against).
Don't dismiss this so quickly. This kind of incentive is VERY powerful. Being in a socially protected class (like Blacks or women or hispanics... or anything except white male) is a strong incentive. Similarly, anything that removes responsibility for your own life has been shown, time and again throughout human history, to be very powerful. People are quite scared of being held responsible for themselves (see welfare and other redistribution of wealth programs).
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That's not very exact. I was expecting a GPS reference...
Racism... People are free to think (or do, for that matter) what they want as long as they don't harm anyone else. A KKK member dancing around a burning cross isn't actually hurting anyone at that point in time. Someone who doesn't "trust" *insert stereotype here* isn't actually hurting anyone either.
Racism... People are free to think (or do, for that matter) what they want as long as they don't harm anyone else. A KKK member dancing around a burning cross isn't actually hurting anyone at that point in time. Someone who doesn't "trust" *insert stereotype here* isn't actually hurting anyone either.
