"Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view.Update read 1st page
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wow..this went way way off topic.for the record,GT5 did not fill up the blu ray.why? Cuz you can always compress it some more or do installs.the blu ray is a bit slow in read speed,so they cant duplicate certain textures and let it stream the same thing a billion times,a la' Forza and its dvd drive.so they are forced to put loads of similar textures for the roads etc on the disk and read each one as it plays.this problem can be rectified with a hdd mandotary install,which is what some 3rd party devs did early in the ps3 life cycle instead of letting the processors do the work,which didnt turn out to well.if GT5 did a mandotary install,they'd be lots of space free! PS,MGS4 couldve been smaller,they didnt compress it to be.,on topic,ahem.I hope we get interiors 
I also hope PD staff see/read this.all of it.I hope they know review scores by gaming sites are not as full of loving kindness as us hardcore fans.
I also hope PD staff see/read this.all of it.I hope they know review scores by gaming sites are not as full of loving kindness as us hardcore fans.
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If disk space was an issue, they'd just be using two BDs, have you install some content and be done with it, so it doesn't really matter, does it?
And look at what we've got now: A two tiered system and Prologue quality for the standards is a faint hope at best.
With PD, there is nothing like 'a given' anymore, I'd say. I guess after the release of Prologue, people would've said (and they probably really did) that it's a given that all cars in GT5 will look at least that much.
And look at what we've got now: A two tiered system and Prologue quality for the standards is a faint hope at best.
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Dont forget,we also have some PR lies..I think none of us believe. 1) the game couldve been released anytime. 2)3D Is something they had put in a long time ago.
3) damage was something they were intergrating from the start. 4)day/night cycles they were planning from the start. 5)weather was going to be put in from the start. ,all we were told was that GTPrologue was going to be a little piece of GT5 and that GT5 will be all that and more,now we're told GT5 has a brand new engine,clearly better and capable of running cars,day/night cycle,an unconfirmed weather function (Im hopeful) and damage.CLEARLY the GTprologue game engine would never be able to intergrate those.at times there are slow downs with a full track of cars etc,the engine couldve been optimised but the cars didnt look like the body could bend,warp etc like the GT5 cars we see now.I honestly think The REAL GT5 we see now running has only been in dev since after Prologue,when we made it known what we wanted.I wouldnt be surprized if we dont see some cars from Prologue make the premium cut,if they started from scratch,thats a possibility.
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Here we go with the "Prologue cars are standard cars" assumption again!
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Here we go with the "Prologue cars are standard cars" argument again!
Well, could still be the case ( who knows? ) as a lot of cars in Prologue were also in GT4 ( but a lot also didn't, for example the road version of the R8 is confirmed to be Premium ) and if Premium is the new "standard" only the newer models or a few selected ones might be Premium ( aka the new way of modeling for all future cars ).
Still makes no sense perhaps if you include those classic muscle cars which are Premium and for example the old Camaro being available both as Premium and Standard ( albeit a slightly different type ).
I really wonder what made them decide which cars would be Premium, because if it only included new cars ( as in newly released IRL ) it would perhaps be percieved as logical ( new additions being modelled to the new "standard" called Premium for now ).
To have an almost similar car ( Camaro ) available as both makes this whole issue even more confusing.
For now we can only hope those 800 Standard cars are approaching Prologue levels especially regarding interior view.
But it's a hope dying quite steadily to be honest.
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Here we go with the "Prologue cars are standard cars" assumption again!
...um..huh? Where did I say that?I said,if they had to design the cars for a NEW GT5 game engine with new parameters,new physics engine etc.it MIGHT be a possibility that they had to scrap the Prologue models and start from SCRATCH,in which case some prologue cars MIGHT not be premium in GT5.I wish the standard cars looked like the premiums,as much as I wish the standard cars looked like Prologue.They will look like HD GT4 cars,thats final.its just the interiors that we're not sure on
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Well, what Prologue's game engine can do and can't do has little to do with the modelling of the cars.
And personally, I'd think that the most probable thing would be to use work in progress car models, track models and so on and so worth. Basically, I'd assume that the cars in Prologue are what you could call a beta of the premiums.
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Thought of that too, a beta or "dumbed down" version of Premium which either means all those cars eventually become Premium in GT5 or that it includes Standard versions ( in Prologue ) as well, the differences in features ( headlights/damage maybe even graphics, etc.) not yet becoming apparant ( in the same way the cars in GT4 were apparantly "dumbed down" versions as well because of the limitations of PS2 ).
Yes, I know not very likely perhaps and maybe I should just stop making "possible" scenarios which makes interior view for all cars more likely.
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I think all the cars in GT5 Prologue are premium cars! Look at the headlights of the BMW or the interior of the Lancia Delta HF, they are modelled with every detail, and even the NASCAR racecars dont look that much better, as far as detail is concerned.
I think there is no "beta-stage vehicle" or something, a car is either done, or not. I guess GT5P contained all the cars they had completed by then, whith some few exceptions, which they probably didn't want to include.
To me its clear that standard cars won't have cockpits, or in case they do have cockpits, they might just have a dashboard without any aditional "interior views", though its not very likely if you take the official website as a source.
I think there is no "beta-stage vehicle" or something, a car is either done, or not. I guess GT5P contained all the cars they had completed by then, whith some few exceptions, which they probably didn't want to include.
To me its clear that standard cars won't have cockpits, or in case they do have cockpits, they might just have a dashboard without any aditional "interior views", though its not very likely if you take the official website as a source.
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- GTP_Goshin2568
- Goshin2568
The standard cars will not have GT5prologue Quality,is just impossible for them to make 800 cars on GT5p level, although is not confirm that all the standards cars will be directly from GT4(since now they got Lamborghini licence they put the classic GT3 Diablo) It could be that the standard cars will have different levels of detail,with cutting edge textures and no cockpits.
Also I think that GT5 prologue could be standard car,which not means that standard cars will have GT5prologue quality but the prologue cars probably will be label as standard without cockpits,again is just a thought.
Also I think that GT5 prologue could be standard car,which not means that standard cars will have GT5prologue quality but the prologue cars probably will be label as standard without cockpits,again is just a thought.
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well..Im guessing the Standard cars were the HD models of Vision GT they wanted to sell with the transaction system... ,on N4G,theres an article that has an article from the next Playstation magazine that has a quote that mentions that GT5 will have enough features to hold us till 5 years from now for the release of GT6?I dont know what to believe from PD. GT3 had 150 cars, GT4 had 712? 2001 -- 2003. In between they released GT Concept Tokyo which had GT4 gfx.honestly,I think its like this.their making the standard cockpits,if their done by release,its in.if their not,it wont be in.same with weather.then we'll all cheer when GT6 has everything.then GT7 will have 200 premiums and 1000 standards on the PS4! ! The Lion King,the circle of life ! im 23 now,been playing GT since GT1 ,so GT7 I'll be...33!!
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Uhhhm, you're wrong. The GT5P cars are obviously the GT5 cars that were done at the time. They wanted us to see what they had accomplished at that point. WHat would be the point of including standard looking cars? That would give GT5P 900 out of the 1000+ cars GT5 was supposed to have. All GT5P cars are premium and have separate body panels. They had no damage model at the time of GT5P AFAIK, so I doubt they would write code to make the damage model incompatible with their current assets.
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- jdmking13
- Lucid killer 58
Shoot i still play GT4. So I Know GT5 is going to last me till GT6 👍
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Here is the final nail in the coffin for this arguement
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5247.html
It's now in English!
Please note under Standard Cars
"*Standard cars do not support vehicle interior camera views."
This can ONLY mean the cockpit view we are all thinking of, without a shadow of doubt.
Sorry if this has been already posted, but it is now officially on the news page of the US GT page, I thought it would be about time this arguement ended.
P.S. For all those who are dissapointed, so am I.
http://us.gran-turismo.com/us/news/d5247.html
It's now in English!
Please note under Standard Cars
"*Standard cars do not support vehicle interior camera views."
This can ONLY mean the cockpit view we are all thinking of, without a shadow of doubt.
Sorry if this has been already posted, but it is now officially on the news page of the US GT page, I thought it would be about time this arguement ended.
P.S. For all those who are dissapointed, so am I.
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One other thing note the date updated - Last Updated : Jun 16, 2010
We have all been fools, good lord.
We have all been fools, good lord.
It was posted like a month ago already,I have to say thought that the proper translations from Japanese is:
"Standard cars do not support vehicle interior camera view"
note that the "s" at the end is a mistranslation by the web master from Gran Turismo.com
yep we already know that so please don't bring back that argument we all know that cockpits will not be a feature.
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Look, no offense, but you clearly do not understand what you are talking about. It's best if you do not try to argue points based on things you just kind of have a vague grasp of or assume about.
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- GTP_Goshin2568
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Ahh well, at least we have over twice as many cars with interiors than prologue 👍 well dashboard view that is...
im still waiting on more information though.
im still waiting on more information though.
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- GTP_Nismo
That page, with the "standard cars..." statement has been there for weeks. The argument has been going on since then. You're not doing anything to help, just bringing it all back when it was starting to die down.
You did just that in your previous post. If you can't handle a counter argument, don't put forth one of your own.
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- GTP_Goshin2568
- Goshin2568
And where exactly did you get the information that the 's' was a mistranslation?
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- GTP_Nismo
From people who can understand and read japanese. The sentence on the US site, is not identical to the one on the japanese site. This has been discussed and there's no reason to do it again.
Dude, the US site had that sentence added weeks ago.
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Which rock have you been living under?
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- GTP_Goshin2568
- Goshin2568
No, the information you just posted has been here a long time. In english.
