"Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view.Update read 1st page

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snowgt
Sorry, but that's not an argument. How would cockpit-view help you learn the track any different than e.g. bumper cam? That's just not true.

Saying that, everyone should be able to use what they like best. For me, cockpit-view only makes sense when you're sitting very close to the screen. In my setup however (3m away from the screen), while it looks great, it feels like you're sitting on the backseat and lose a) half the screen to see where you're going and b) half the feeling of what the car actually does. So bumper it is for me. The only gripe I have about it is that it's too low, so I'm hoping for the bonnet-view as some videos seem to suggest will be included this time.
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Is that a serious question?

Umm, maybe because in a real race, you're not following your car in a helicopter?!?
 
-Cheezman-
I've always found interior views to simply be fluff. They don't aid in anyway and are just eye candy, and, in my opinion, GT5 is going to have the eye candy part well covered regardless of "interior views."

Just my opinion though.
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I never did like interior views myself, I gave them a shot though and I've found that in some cars, it actually gives me an amazing perspective of where the car is on the track. There are several occasions where I've ran faster laps and other occasions where I think I'm about to hit the wall sliding up a turn... and then nothing happens and I keep going on my way.

Not great for all cars though, I find some to have cramped interior views... usually prefer hood view when it's all said and done.
 
It's just more realistic though. The only thing that would be more realistic would be if you had a full cockpit setup, and it was pressed up against your HDTV, and exactly the right size, with hood view.
 
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It's kinda funny. We wen't from 'standard cars will have cockpit view' to 'cockpit view sucks anyways, so it doesn't matter if standard cars don't have it'.
 
Luminis
It's kinda funny. We wen't from 'standard cars will have cockpit view' to 'cockpit view sucks anyways, so it doesn't matter if standard cars don't have it'.
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I've said it before... around if GT5 has it, it's awesome and GT5 does it best, but if GT5 doesn't have it, it was crappy and pointless and only poor drivers would want it anyway.
 
Devedander
I've said it before... around if GT5 has it, it's awesome and GT5 does it best, but if GT5 doesn't have it, it was crappy and pointless and only poor drivers would want it anyway.
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If that was aimed at me, I've always found it annoying. I'd rather use the bonnet cam and have a proper view of the road, if GT5 has interior views the only thing I will use it for is replays
 
MarkyMark8609
If that was aimed at me, I've always found it annoying. I'd rather use the bonnet cam and have a proper view of the road, if GT5 has interior views the only thing I will use it for is replays
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But in a real car, you don't have a full view of the road. Your view is inhibited by a windshield and a wheel and and the thing between the driver's window and the windshield.
 
Goshin2568
But in a real car, you don't have a full view of the road. Your view is inhibited by a windshield and a wheel and and the thing between the driver's window and the windshield.
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I suppose your talking about standard blacked out windshields. Most windshields shouldn't pose a problem to your view. Actually it should help you.
 
Actually, anyone know when the tinted windscreen was first used in an automobile? Just out of curiousity.
 
Spagetti69
I suppose your talking about standard blacked out windshields. Most windshields shouldn't pose a problem to your view. Actually it should help you.
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No, I was refering to the fact that while using a hood cam or bumper cam gives a better view of the road, it is not realistic because most of the things that are around you and in front of you in a real car are not present in those views, but in a cockpit view they are, thus making it more realistic.
 
Goshin2568
But in a real car, you don't have a full view of the road. Your view is inhibited by a windshield and a wheel and and the thing between the driver's window and the windshield.
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In a real car you have a hell of a lot more field of vision then the vast majority of us and our 27-40 inch TV. The bonnet cam allows you access to the relevant information that would be focused on in reality, which I think is what he was getting at.
 
Oh I see. Take the roof off.


Edit. I don't think bonnet cambis confirmed. I might be wrong though.

And well done Spain BTW.
 
Spagetti69
I suppose your talking about standard blacked out windshields. Most windshields shouldn't pose a problem to your view. Actually it should help you.
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I guess he was reffering to the dashboard and the hood which can limit your field of vision. You can't just switch to a view that's alowing for a broader field of vision IRL, if the 'cockpit view' is inconvenient to you. That's all.

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I'm getting a wee bit to slow, it seems.
 
Luminis
It's kinda funny. We wen't from 'standard cars will have cockpit view' to 'cockpit view sucks anyways, so it doesn't matter if standard cars don't have it'.
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A lot here honestly don't care much or aren't even using interior view ( not me I love it and was initially quite surprised by those but it takes all sorts I guess ) and although I couldn't really understand this reluctance or being convinced even slightly by their reasoning as to why they don't like it I always respected their viewpoint as using a wheel ( which I don't ) or just growing familiar with certain choice, etc. might explain this difference.

But this is not a thread debating the pro and cons of any viewpoint and it really annoys me they just seem wanting to "express their opinion" which is frankly pointless in this whole debate and just rubbing salt in the wounds.
If it were a choice only which viewpoint you prefer, we wouldn't even have this whole debate as one of the choices is possibly excluded.

Not theirs obviously and I wonder what drives them to make these pointless statements or even participate in this debate as nothing changes for them ( unless they have objective theories or new info ofcourse ).
Why should I care or even defend ( if I wanted to which I don't ) their arguments that it isn't realistic, you lose view from the track or it feels like sitting on the backseat when there already are threads to discuss this.
The point is I prefer it for reasons I don't have to justify to those who don't and if I could be bothered I could counterargue every single one of those.

Imagine a possible scenario whereby you could have a choice between Prologue, TT demo and GT4 physics on all cars and suddenly 800 cars were reduced to just one option, the same physics as GT4.
A lot ( me included ) would be disappointed and this whole debate would be equally heated ( maybe even more as it affects all "viewpoints" ).
If you were happy with what GT4 offered physicswise ( and were only planning to use this option anyway ) then fine, you wouldn't barge into the discussion claiming GT4 physics are superior for no apparant reason other than "expressing your opinion" which would be equally pointless in this context.
 
analog
A lot here honestly don't care much or aren't even using interior view ( not me I love it and was initially quite surprised by those but it takes all sorts I guess ) and although I couldn't really understand this reluctance or being convinced even slightly by their reasoning as to why they don't like it I always respected their viewpoint as using a wheel ( which I don't ) or just growing familiar with certain choice, etc. might explain this difference.

But this is not a thread debating the pro and cons of any viewpoint and it really annoys me they just seem wanting to "express their opinion" which is frankly pointless in this whole debate and just rubbing salt in the wounds.
If it were a choice only which viewpoint you prefer, we wouldn't even have this whole debate as one of the choices is possibly excluded.

Not theirs obviously and I wonder what drives them to make these pointless statements or even participate in this debate as nothing changes for them ( unless they have objective theories or new info ofcourse ).
Why should I care or even defend ( if I wanted to which I don't ) their arguments that it isn't realistic, you lose view from the track or it feels like sitting on the backseat when there already are threads to discuss this.
The point is I prefer it for reasons I don't have to justify to those who don't and if I could be bothered I could counterargue every single one of those.

Imagine a possible scenario whereby you could have a choice between Prologue, TT demo and GT4 physics on all cars and suddenly 800 cars were reduced to just one option, the same physics as GT4.
A lot ( me included ) would be disappointed and this whole debate would be equally heated ( maybe even more as it affects all "viewpoints" ).
If you were happy with what GT4 offered physicswise ( and were only planning to use this option anyway ) then fine, you wouldn't barge into the discussion claiming GT4 physics are superior for no apparant reason other than "expressing your opinion" which would be equally pointless in this context.
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Ummm... Ya
 
Goshin2568
Ummm... Ya
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If I understood his post right, analog's point was that claiming cockpit view is 'useless' or whatever is a lot like claiming that GT4's physics are superior to GT5's. If we were able to switch them and standard cars came with the GT4 physics only.

While it is an opinion and, thus, can't really be wrong, it's pointless.
 
Goshin2568
Ummm... Ya
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JDMKING13
Thats not claiming bro he is using that as an example. 👍
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Luminis
If I understood his post right, analog's point was that claiming cockpit view is 'useless' or whatever is a lot like claiming that GT4's physics are superior to GT5's. If we were able to switch them and standard cars came with the GT4 physics only.

While it is an opinion and, thus, can't really be wrong, it's pointless.
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Thank you, you're both right.

Goshin2568
You're right. I didn't read it right. :lol: sorry.
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It's fine, at least you got it now.;)
 
So how long until the next game show? Hopefully it's sooner than I think and we get more info and hopefully more clarification on standard vs. premium.

My guess is premiums are more than just detailed interiors but have a whole new system of upgrades available to them. Maybe like GT2 and the option to upgrade them into a race car? Examples: Z06- GT2 car in ALMS LeMans; F430- GT2 car in ALMS LeMans; Nissan GTR- FIA GT1 and SuperGT car. Maybe that's a feature that makes them premium? Or a feature that comes along with premium. GT5P had a Ford GT Race car. Also a Cappuccino Race car. Just a thought...
 

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