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"Standard Car" does not correspond to the interior view.Update read 1st page
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The japanese rock clearly
As far as I could read, No one ever spoke of the US website's point, only the Japanese website's
That is all.
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Go back like 8 pages on this thread. Wait, I'll find it.
EDIT: Found it
This was on page 42.
EDIT: Found it
Damage: Premium Cars have it in full. Standard Cars have scratches.
Headlights: Premium Cars have High and Low Beams. Standard Cars have Low beams only.
We have about the same level of information for all three items I've highlighted in red. Unless I'm missing something.
Ultimately, you can believe what you want to believe. Honestly though, with nothing but split hairs pointing in one direction and solid evidence pointing in the other, I'm going to assume that there are no cockpit/interior views for standard cars. Do I want them? Yes. The reality is that they're more than likely not going to be included though.
Please, this thread has passed intellectual... or allow me to rephrase.. "fresh" intellectual discussion... and has moved on into word-playing, hope-building, rephrasing, recycling and remphasizing.
This was on page 42.
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The past 20-30 pages are based on the US site being updated with this statement.
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Found it, page 43.
My mistake
Sorry to all and flame me all you like
See you all in November!
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Post not needed anymore, man this community is so active.
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These threads remain open to prevent us interior view-saddos from "polluting" every other thread which happened the first few days after E3.
This one centres mostly on cockpit view whilst the other concentrates mostly on graphical diffences.
It's madness but contained madness.
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I'm just saying, if that info is indeed the 'nail in the coffin', which I don't believe it is, then this debate should be over 10 pages ago.
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I did it and we have confirmation with dave_sz who had a Japanese speaker to confirm the plural word "views" don't exist in the JP pronouncement,the pronouncements are made in Japanese first,so they have more credibility,its a mistranslation but it should be informed to
Gran Turismo web master,what we haven't done but we should now!!
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Sigh, really, cause I can clearly see "Standard cars do not support interior views" on page 20, post 385, and it specifically addresses the US site. I even goes back further than that.
There's no reason for you to be bitter about this. You're not the first to come to the forums thinking they've found something new, just to be told otherwise.
The sentences both mean the same thing, however with the US site adding words to the english sentence that aren't in the japanese text, to make it sound more "coherent", I guess, just doesn't sit well with me. Both translations mean the same thing, however the official one seems to be more confusing and you could stretch it a bit and say misleading, than the one I have.
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I certainly am not losing sleep over it. Mostly because I don't even bother with interior views in games. I always go right for the bumper cam. My DFP is my cockpit, I don't need a visual representation of it on screen.
I've always found interior views to simply be fluff. They don't aid in anyway and are just eye candy, and, in my opinion, GT5 is going to have the eye candy part well covered regardless of "interior views."
My hopes are in the physics and customization. 👍
Just my opinion though.
I've always found interior views to simply be fluff. They don't aid in anyway and are just eye candy, and, in my opinion, GT5 is going to have the eye candy part well covered regardless of "interior views."
My hopes are in the physics and customization. 👍
Just my opinion though.
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they do aid if you're a professional race driver or even a beginner. It helps to get used to the cockpit view and learn the track from that perspective
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And, It's just cooler. More realistic then any other view.
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I love cockpit view!!!!
I agree. 👍 but I was just explaining that to some people it does aid them. I'll probably use cockpit view or hood/roof cam. maybe chase cam if there's stunt arenas.
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Precisely. Even if someone's using a wheel for GT, it's not going to look anything like the real deal when combined with the bumper cam or a hood cam.
Unless of course, you've got yourself a wheel and a dashboard from the car you're racing, including all it's gauges and whatnot. Would be kinda hard to pull of for that many cars, though...
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But having 2 wheels in front of you is real?
I can drive much easier with bumper cam since there is much less stuff cluttering up my view than cockpit view, which has more things in my field of vision than I do when driving a real car.
Arguing why one view is better than the other is pointless since everyone will have their take on it.
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How about this, you use your view and let him use his. I mean, who says he uses a racing wheel? I hardly use a racing wheel. I mean, you CAN play the game with a controller. Let's PLEASE try to use ALL of our muscles...including the one in our heads. (no perverted jokes on that one, either)
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Of course not. But having the wrong one isn't, either.
Well, yeah, it is easier, I guess. Is that realistic, though?
You're probably right, so I'm gonna drop that topic...
My money's on that HKS Hipermax III controller 👍 It's too cramped in my living room for a decent wheel setup...
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Sorry, but that's not an argument. How would cockpit-view help you learn the track any different than e.g. bumper cam? That's just not true.
Saying that, everyone should be able to use what they like best. For me, cockpit-view only makes sense when you're sitting very close to the screen. In my setup however (3m away from the screen), while it looks great, it feels like you're sitting on the backseat and lose a) half the screen to see where you're going and b) half the feeling of what the car actually does. So bumper it is for me. The only gripe I have about it is that it's too low, so I'm hoping for the bonnet-view as some videos seem to suggest will be included this time.
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IMO cockpit view isnt any more realistic if you dont have a very big tv and sit close to it. The interior should be in your peripheral vision, something that is impossible without the setup I describes above.
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I think you are confusing more realistic with entirely realistic.
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Well my point is that in real racing you wont feel that the view is resticted by the interior, on my setup (37"tv sitting 3meters away) interior view feels like sitting in the back seat and the interior just feels like its in my way(though its feels much better if I set my TV closer:tup
. I respect anyone who drives and think interior view is more realistic but its not always true IMHO.
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In real racing, you're not able to switch to a view where your hood and the dashboard are not blocking your view, are you?Well my point is that in real racing you wont feel that the view is resticted by the interior, on my setup (37"tv sitting 3meters away) interior view feels like sitting in the back seat and the interior just feels like its in my way(though its feels much better if I set my TV closer:tup
And I do think that, in real life, you're able to recognize the car you're in by looking at it's interior...
In my opinion, it's perfectly understandable thaat it's a huge issue to some of us.
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i strongly feel that for the interior view, there should be an option to turn the visibility of the
steering wheel and drivers arms off
its completely freaky to see the wheel and and arms if you're using a wheel to play yourself
when using a pad of course, its not so bad to see those
steering wheel and drivers arms off
its completely freaky to see the wheel and and arms if you're using a wheel to play yourself
when using a pad of course, its not so bad to see those
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Well good for you, thanks for sharing your opinion which really adds to the discussion taking place here.
If only we would all had this opinion this whole discussion would be pointless and non-existent in the first place.
A real eye-opener too as I regarded interior view to be an essential gameplay feature/element until now which I was expecting on all cars since playing Prologue.
Wow, apparantly it's just irrelevant eye-candy and fluff at the same time which also doesn't aid the experience.
And yes we have more than enough eye-candy already, even more would seriously distort the balance of the game.
I've now realised all my disappointment which I've expressed is just pointless and irrelevant whining and I should consider using bumpercam.
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Who said the cars in Prologue were not modelled with damage in mind? For Prologue PD said they modelled every part of the car individually, so you could remove certain bodyparts and what not. So GT5 Prologue models allready featured all the detail that premium cars do, as far as the removal of bodyparts and the overall quality is concerned.
I don't know how the damage model works, wether it depends on the car and has to be modelled for every individual car, or if it calculates the damage depending on the speed and angle of the impact and the material.
