Standard cars in GT6?

[TuneR-]

They only have 500,000 in photo travel.

Oh.

What would be the point? If they already model the cars to a high quality level why not do the best they can? Making the cars lower poly doesn't mean you are going to get more cars, (at least not many more) it would just mean they would have to update all those cars AGAIN for the next game.

This is exactly why the cars are so detailed now, they are ready for future games with just minor improvements.

I just thought that if they didn't model every single nut and bolt or brake light pulb in the car, it would save time and space. But you have a good point.
Im just afraid if they make them so high detailed it cuts down car count and variety too much, because most stantard cars are my favourites (AE86, Supra, Chaser, S14 etc.) and there's many unique and oddball car like fiat panda or 240 volvo, and i wouldn't want them to cut them off.

 

[MSTER232]

Oh.


I just thought that if they didn't model every single nut and bolt or brake light pulb in the car, it would save time and space. But you have a good point.
Im just afraid if they make them so high detailed it cuts down car count and variety too much, because most stantard cars are my favourites (AE86, Supra, Chaser, S14 etc.) and there's many unique and oddball car like fiat panda or 240 volvo, and i wouldn't want them to cut them off.

True, there's many areas they could have cheaped out that would even be noticeable but they decided to model everything, even the things we many not see often.

 

[gamerdog6482]

True, there's many areas they could have cheaped out that would even be noticeable but they decided to model everything, even the things we many not see often.

They actually modeled the restraints on the inside of the Lamborghini Aventador's pop-up spoiler...

 

[MSTER232]

They actually modeled the restraints on the inside of the Lamborghini Aventador's pop-up spoiler...

Meh? Soon I think PD will model viruses and bacteria in the game that you can zoom in on (and it will make your driver sick).

Slightly exaggerated but that's how I feel.

 

[gamerdog6482]

Meh? Soon I think PD will model viruses and bacteria in the game that you can zoom in on (and it will make your driver sick).

Slightly exaggerated but that's how I feel.

And yet they did not model the engine on the modern Fiat 500.

 

[CSLACR]

Oh.


I just thought that if they didn't model every single nut and bolt or brake light pulb in the car, it would save time and space. But you have a good point.
Im just afraid if they make them so high detailed it cuts down car count and variety too much, because most stantard cars are my favourites (AE86, Supra, Chaser, S14 etc.) and there's many unique and oddball car like fiat panda or 240 volvo, and i wouldn't want them to cut them off.

You're probably right, but if technology continues it's current trend the cars they just made would need re-made again in another few years.
Taking as much detail ass possible cuts down on re-visits to keep a car you already put in the game.

 

[MSTER232]

And yet they did not model the engine on the modern Fiat 500.

But why should they? That Fiat 500 would probably be one of the few cars that people spend the least amount of time driving. If I recall correctly, then the last time I drove one was 4 months ago because I was really bored.

 

[gamerdog6482]

But why should they? That Fiat 500 would probably be one of the few cars that people spend the least amount of time driving. If I recall correctly, then the last time I drove one was 4 months ago because I was really bored.

I have a tune for the old one in my garage. And why would they? Well, why would they model the restraints of the Aventador's wing when that probably isn't even visible when you are driving right behind one?

 

[MSTER232]

I have a tune for the old one in my garage. And why would they? Well, why would they model the restraints of the Aventador's wing when that probably isn't even visible when you are driving right behind one?

That's the point I'm trying to make. Why would you bother modelling something that 90% of the time you're not even going to see it?

 

[gamerdog6482]

That's the point I'm trying to make. Why would you bother modelling something that 90% of the time you're not even going to see it?

Right, it doesn't make any sense.

 

[Tahli462]

There might be unless they reduce the cars in the game

 

[ch3ng]

premium cars are a waste of time,

No they aren't. They were build for the future in my opinion.

level, make them like NFS shift's models or like forza's models, those are good enough

Funny that you mention Forza. They use between 800.000 - 1.000.000+ polygone in Autovista and Photomode.

 

[therealfan1]

I agree 100%. The word "standards" should have never been created and should be erased from everyones vocabulary after GT5. If they have standards again in GT6 I promise I wont even rent GT6. I will officially give up on the series. I didnt even buy GT5 after I heard about the "standards", I got GT5 as a christmas present. Its the only GT game I did not purchase. I even own the JPN and EUR versions including the Prologues. When I heard we could not change the wheels, no interior view, and could not bring the standards to photo travel, I knew I wasnt buying the game. Just insulting to the fans of the series. I do appreciate that 2 years later there have been improvements to standards but still, the standards are nowhere near premiums.

If you want my money KAZ, there better not be a single "standard" car in GT6. Hopefully Kaz is finally listening to the community. He clearly wasnt with GT5.

Everyone needs to quit whining about standards. Standards aren't that bad. It could be worse; all of them could be standard. Not buying GTs because of standards is a pretty lame reason. I like premium cars, but be grateful we have as many premiums we have now.

 

[1241Penguin]

Right, I just spent some time seeing which Standard cars can easily be converted to Premium. By that I mean the car already has a Premium counterpart (e.g. the Standard M5 and Premium M5). Little tweaks and different liveries may be needed for its looks, but for the most part, the car is already modelled.

Acura: [5]
NSX '91
NSX [RM] '91
NSX '04
NSX Coupé '97
NSX Concept '12

AEM Racing : [1]
S2000 (SEMA Award 2005) '05

Alfa Romeo : [4]
147 TI 2.0 Twin Spark '06
8C Competizione '08
Brera Sky Window 3.2 JTS Q4 '06
TZ2 Carrozzata da Zagato (Pebble Beach Award 2009) '65

Amuse : [5]
Nismo 380RS Super Leggera (Z33) '09
S2000 GT1 '04
S2000 GT1 Turbo '06
S2000 R1 '04
S2000 Street Version '04

Art Morrison : [1]
Corvette Roadster (SEMA Award 2006) '60

Aston Martin : [3]
DB9 Coupe '03
DB9 Coupe '06
V12 Vantage '10

Audi : [12]
R8 4.2 FSI R-Tronic '07
R8 5.2 V10 FSI Quattro '09
R8 5.2 V10 FSI Quattro '09 Chrome Line Edition
R8 LMS '09
R8 LMS Team Playstation '09
R10 TDI Le Mans '06
R10 TDI Le Mans '06 Stealth
RS6 Avant '08
TT 1.8T Quattro '00
TT 3.2 Quattro '03
TT 3.2 Quattro '07
TTS Coupe '09

Autobacs : [1]
Garaiya ARTA Super GT '08

Blitz : [1]
Dunlop ER34 (D1GP) '07

BMW : [8]
135i Coupe '07
135tii Concept '07
M3 Coupe '07
M3 Coupe '07 Chrome Line Edition
M5 '05
M5 '08
Z4 '03
Z4 M Coupe '08

Chevrolet : [24]
Camaro SS '69
Camaro SS '10
Camaro SS [RM] '10
Camaro SS '10 (Edge Special)
Camaro Z28 '69
Camaro Z28 [RM] '69
Corvette Sting Ray Convertible (C3) '69
Corvette Stingray L46 350 (C3) '69
Corvette Z06 (C5) '00
Corvette Z06 (C5) '04
Corvette Z06 (C6) '06
Corvette Z06 (C6) [RM] '06
Corvette ZR-1 (C6) '09
Corvette ZR-1 (C6) [RM] '09
Impala #14 Tony Stewart NASCAR '10
Impala #14 Tony Stewart NASCAR '11
Impala #24 Jeff Gordon NASCAR '10
Impala #24 Jeff Gordon NASCAR '11
Impala #42 Juan Pablo Montoya NASCAR '10
Impala #42 Juan Pablo Montoya NASCAR '11
Impala #48 Jimmie Johnson NASCAR '10
Impala #48 Jimmie Johnson NASCAR '11
Impala #88 Dale Earnhardt, Jr. NASCAR '10
Impala #88 Dale Earnhardt, Jr. NASCAR '11

Citroën : [5]
C4 Coupe 2.0 VTS '05
C4 WRC '08
GT by Citroën Concept '08
GT by Citroën Road Car '08
GT by Citroën Race Car '08

Daihatsu : [3]
Copen Active Top '02
Copen Detachable Top '02
OFC-1 Concept '07

Dodge : [9]
Challenger R/T '70
Challenger R/T [RM] '70
Challenger SRT8 '08
Challenger SRT8 Touring Car
Viper GTS '99
Viper GTS '02
Viper SRT/10 '03
Viper SRT/10 Coupe '06
Viper ACR '08

Ferrari : [14]
330 P4 '67
430 Scuderia '07
458 Italia '09
512BB '76
599 GTB Fiorano '06
California '08
Enzo '02
F10 '10
F2007 '07
F40 '92
F430 '06
SP1 '08

Fiat : [5]
500 1.2 8v Lounge SS '08
500F '65
500F '68
500L '69
500R '72

Ford : [17]
Focus ST '06
Focus RS WRC07 '08
Fusion #43 AJ Allmendinger NASCAR '10
Fusion #43 AJ Allmendinger NASCAR '11
Fusion #99 Carl Edwards NASCAR '10
Fusion #99 Carl Edwards NASCAR '11
GT '02
GT '05
GT (No Stripes) '05
GT '06
GT LM Race Car '02
GT LM Race Car Spec II '04
GT40 Race Car '69
Mark IV '67
Mustang GT '05
Mustang GT Premium '07
Mustang Mach 1 '71

Gran Turismo : [11]
350Z RS
GT LM Edition Spec-II Test Car
Gran Turismo Racing Kart Jr.
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 100
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 125
Gran Turismo Racing Kart 125 SPL
PDI Racing Kart 100
Red Bull X2010 Sebastian Vettel '10
Red Bull X2010 '10
Red Bull X2010 Carbon '10
Red Bull X2011 Prototype '11[/SIZE]

Grand Touring Garage : [1]
Mustang "Trans-Cammer" (SEMA Award 2009) '70

High End Performance : [1]
G37 (SEMA Award 2008)

HKS : [1]
CT230R '08 (image)

Honda : [53]
Civic Type R (EK) '97
Civic Type R (EK) [RM] '97
Civic Type R (EK) '98
Civic Type R (FD2) '08
CR-Z '10
CR-Z Touring Car
Insight LS (2nd gen) '09
Integra Type R (DC5) '04
Integra Type R (DC5) [RM] '04
Integra Type R Touring Car
NSX '90
NSX '93
NSX '95
NSX '97
NSX '99
NSX '01
NSX Type R '92
NSX Type R '02
NSX Type S '97
NSX Type S '99
NSX Type S '01
NSX Type S Zero '97
NSX Type S Zero '99
NSX-R Concept '01
NSX ARTA JGTC '00
NSX ARTA Super GT '06
NSX Castrol Mugen JGTC '00
NSX Epson Super GT '08
NSX GT500 Stealth
NSX Loctite Mugen JGTC '01
NSX Mobil 1 JGTC '01
NSX Raybrig JGTC '00
NSX Raybrig Super GT '06
NSX Takata Dome JGTC '03
NSX Takata Dome Super GT '06
S2000 '99
S2000 '01
S2000 '03
S2000 '06
S2000 (EU) '99
S2000 (EU) '01
S2000 (EU) '03
S2000 (US) '99
S2000 (US) '01
S2000 (US) '04
S2000 Type V '00
S2000 Type V '01
S2000 Type V '03
S2000 Type V (EU) '00
S2000 Type V (EU) '01
S2000 Type V (US) '00
S2000 Type V (US) '01
S2000 LM Race Car '01

HPA : [1]
TT FT565 Twin Turbo (SEMA Award 2007) '07

Infiniti : [3]
Coupe Concept '06
G35 Coupe '03
G35 Coupe '06

Isuzu : [1]
4200R Concept '89

Jaguar : [5]
XJ13 '66
XJ13 '66 Chrome Line Edition
XJR-9 Le Mans '88
XK Coupe Luxury '07
XKR Coupe '10

Lamborghini : [6]
Aventador LP700/4 '11
Gallardo LP560-4 '08
Miura P400 Bertone Prototype (Pebble Beach Award 2008) '67
Murciélago LP640 '09
Murciélago LP640 '09 Chrome Line Edition
Murciélago LP670-4 SuperVeloce '09

Lancia : [1]
Delta HF Integrale Evoluzione '91

Lexus : [9]
IS350 WedsSport Super GT '08
IS-F '07
IS-F [RM] '07
IS-F Racing Concept '08
LFA '10
SC430 Bandai Direzza Super GT '06
SC430 Denso Dunlop SARD Super GT '08
SC430 Eneos Super GT '08
SC430 Petronas Tom's Super GT '08

Lotus : [14]
Elise '96
Elise [RM] '96
Elise '00
Elise 111R '04
Elise 111R [RM] '04
Elise 111S '03
Elise Sport 190 '98
Elise Type 72 '01
Esprit Sport 350 '00
Esprit V8 '02
Esprit V8 GT '98
Esprit V8 SE '98
Evora '09
Motor Sport Elise '99

Maserati : [1]
GranTurismo S '08

Mazda : [61]
787B Le Mans '91
787B Le Mans '91
Atenza Sport 25Z '07
Autozam AZ-1 '92
BP Falken RX-7 (D1GP) '03
Eunos Roadster (NA Special Package) '89
Eunos Roadster J-Limited (NA) '91
Eunos Roadster J-Limited II (NA) '93
Eunos Roadster SR-Limited (NA) '97
Eunos Roadster S-Special Type I (NA) '95
Eunos Roadster VR-Limited (NA) '95
Eunos Roadster V-Special Type II (NA) '93
MX-5 (NA) '89
MX-5 J-Limited (NA, J) '91
MX-5 J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
MX-5 SR-Limited (NA, J) '97
MX-5 S-Special Type I (NA, J) '95
MX-5 VR-Limited (NA, J) '95
MX-5 V-Special Type II (NA, J) '93
MX-5 Miata (NA) '89
MX-5 Miata J-Limited (NA, J) '91
MX-5 Miata J-Limited II (NA, J) '93
MX-5 Miata SR-Limited (NA, J) '97
MX-5 Miata S-Special Type I (NA, J) '95
MX-5 Miata VR-Limited (NA, J) '95
MX-5 Miata V-Special Type II (NA, J) '93
Roadster RS (NC) '07
Roadster Touring Car
RX-7 éfini Type R (FD) '91
RX-7 éfini Type R (FD) '93
RX-7 éfini Type RS (FD) '96
RX-7 éfini Type R-S (FD) '95
RX-7 éfini Type RZ (FD) '92
RX-7 éfini Type RZ (FD) '93
RX-7 éfini Type RZ (FD) '95
RX-7 éfini Type RZ (FD) '96
RX-7 GT-Limited (FC, J) '85
RX-7 GT-X (FC) '90
RX-7 GT-X (FC, J) '90
RX-7 Savanna GT-Limited (FC) '85
RX-7 Savanna Infini III (FC) '90
RX-7 Spirit-R Type-A (FD) '02
RX-7 Type R (FD, J) '91
RX-7 Type R (FD, J) '93
RX-7 Type R Bathurst R (FD) '01
RX-7 Type RS (FD, J) '96
RX-7 Type RS (FD) '98
RX-7 Type RS (FD) '00
RX-7 Type R-S (FD, J) '95
RX-7 Type RS-R (FD) '97
RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '92
RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '93
RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '95
RX-7 Type RZ (FD, J) '96
RX-7 Type RZ (FD) '00
RX-7 Touring Car
RX-7 LM Race Car '01
RX-8 '03
RX-8 Type E '03
RX-8 Type S '03
RX-8 Type-S '07

McLaren : [3]
F1 '94
F1 '94 Stealth
MP4-12C '10

Mercedes-Benz : [11]
300SL Coupe '54
300SL Coupe '54 Chrome Line Edition
C63 AMG '08
SL500 (R230) '02
SL600 (R230) '04
SL55 AMG (R230) '02
SL65 AMG (R230) '04
SLR McLaren '03
SLR McLaren '09
SLS AMG '10
SLS AMG '10 Stealth

Mine's : [3]
Lancer Evo VI '00
Skyline BNR34 GT-R V-Spec N1 Base '00
Skyline BNR34 GT-R N1 Base '06

Mini : [7]
One '02
Cooper '02
Cooper S '02
Cooper S '05
Cooper S '07
Cooper S '11
Cooper S Countryman '11

Mitsubishi : [13]
i-Miev '09
Lancer Evolution IV GSR '96
Lancer Evolution IV Rally Car '97
Lancer Evolution VI GSR '99
Lancer Evolution VI GSR Tommi Makinen Edition '00
Lancer Evolution VI GSR Tommi Makinen Edition Special Color Package '99
Lancer Evolution VI RS '99
Lancer Evolution VI RS Tommi Makinen Edition '00
Lancer Evolution VI Rally Car '99
Lancer Evolution IX GSR '05
Lancer Evolution IX GSR [RM] '05
Lancer Evolution X GSR Premium '07
Lancer Evolution X Touring Car

Mugen : [1]
S2000 '00

Nismo : [6]
400R '96
Fairlady Z S-Tune Concept by GT (Z33) '02
Fairlady Z Z-Tune (Z33) '03
GT-R LM Road Going Version '95
Skyline GT-R R-Tune (R34) '99
Skyline GT-R S-Tune (R32) '00

Nissan : [86]
300ZX 2by2 (Z32) '98
300ZX 2seater (Z32) '89
300ZX 2seater (Z32) '98
350Z (Z33, EU) '03
350Z (Z33, US) '03
350Z GT4 Limited Edition (Z33) '05
370Z (GT Academy) '08
370Z Tuned Car (GT Academy) '08
370Z Tuned Car (GT Academy Version) '08
Fairlady Z (Z34) '08
Fairlady Z 300ZX TwinTurbo 2seater (Z32) '89
Fairlady Z 300ZX Version R TwinTurbo 2by2 (Z32) '98
Fairlady Z 300ZX Version S TwinTurbo 2seater (Z32) '98
Fairlady Z Roadster (Z33) '03
Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) '02
Fairlady Z Version S (Z33) '07
Fairlady Z Version ST (Z33 Option Wheel) '02
GT-R Proto Concept '05
GT-R "Black Mask" '07
GT-R '07 (image)
GT-R Black Edition '12
GT-R Black Edition (GT Academy) '12
GT-R Black Edition Tuned Car (GT Academy) '12
GT-R Spec-V '09
GT-R Spec-V (GT Academy Version) '09
GT-R Spec-V (GT Academy SPECIAL)
GT-R Touring Car
GT-R Calsonic Impul Super GT '08
GT-R Calsonic Race Car '93
GT-R GT500 Stealth
GT-R Motul Autech Super GT '08
GT-R N24 Schulze Motor Sport '11
GT-R N24 Schulze Motor Sport '12
GT-R WoodOne Advan Clarion SuperGT '08
GT-R Xanavi Nismo Super GT '08
GT-R Yellow Hat YMS Tomica Super GT '08
Leaf G '11
Leaf G (GT Academy) '11
March 12SR '07
Silvia K's (S13) '88
Silvia K's (S13) '91
Silvia K's Dia Selection (S13) '90
Silvia Q's (S13) '88
Silvia Q's (S13) '91
Silvia Spec-R Aero (S15) '99
Silvia Spec-R Aero (S15) '02
Silvia Spec-R Aero (S15) (GT Academy) '02
Silvia Spec-R Aero (S15) [RM] '02
Silvia Spec-S Aero (S15) '99
Skyline Coupe 350GT '03
Skyline Coupe 370GT Type SP '07
Skyline GT-R (R32) '89
Skyline GT-R (R32) '91
Skyline GT-R (R33) '95
Skyline GT-R (R33) '96
Skyline GT-R (R33) '97
Skyline GT-R (R34) '99
Skyline GT-R (R34) '00
Skyline GT-R M-Spec (R34) '01
Skyline GT-R M-Spec Nür (R34) '02
Skyline GT-R N1 (R32) '91
Skyline GT-R N1 (R33) '95
Skyline GT-R Special Color Midnight Purple II (R34) '99
Skyline GT-R Special Color Midnight Purple III (R34) '00
Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R32) '93
Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R33) '95
Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R33) '96
Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R33) '97
Skyline GT-R V-Spec (R34) '99
Skyline GT-R V-Spec II (R32) '94
Skyline GT-R V-Spec II (R32) (GT Academy) '94
Skyline GT-R V-Spec II (R34) '00
Skyline GT-R V-Spec II N1 (R34) '00
Skyline GT-R V-Spec II Nür (R34) '02
Skyline GT-R V-Spec II Nür (R34) (GT Academy) '02
Skyline GT-R V-Spec LM Limited (R33) '96
Skyline GT-R V-Spec N1 (R32) '93
Skyline GT-R V-Spec N1 (R34) '99
Skyline GT-R (R32) Touring Car
Skyline GT-R (R33) Touring Car
Skyline GT-R (R34) Touring Car
Skyline GTS25 Type S (R32) '91
Skyline GTS-t Type M (R32) '91
Skyline Sedan 350GT Type SP '06
Z Motul Pitwork JGTC '04
Z Xanavi Nismo (Super GT) '06

Opera Performance : [2]
350Z '04
S2000 '04

Pagani : [1]
Zonda R '09

Peugeot : [4]
207 GTI '07
307CC Premium AVN '04
908 Hdi FAP Team Oreca Matmut '10
908 HDi FAP Team Peugeot Total '10

RE Amemiya : [3]
RX-7 (FD3S)
RX-7 AsparaDrink JGTC '04
RX-7 AsparaDrink Super GT '06

Renault : [9]
Clio RS 2.0 16V '02
Clio Renault Sport V6 24V '00
Clio Renault Sport V6 24V Trophy '00
Clio Renault Sport V6 Phase 2 '03
Lutecia RS 2.0 16V '02
Lutecia Renault Sport V6 24V '01
Lutecia Renault Sport V6 24V Trophy '00
Lutecia Renault Sport V6 Phase 2 '03
Megane Renault Sport '08

Scion : [1]
FR-S '12

Shelby : [2]
Cobra 427 S/C '66
Cobra 427 S/C '66 Chrome Line Edition

Spoon : [4]
Civic Type R (EK) '00
CR-Z '10
S2000 '00
S2000 Race Car '00

Subaru : [7]
Impreza Cusco Dunlop Super GT '08
Impreza WRX STi (BBS Wheel Option) '07
Impreza WRX STi (BBS Wheel Option) '10
Impreza WRX STi Spec-C Type-RA '05
Impreza WRX STi Spec-C Type-RA [RM] '05
Impreza Touring Car
Impreza WRC2008 '08

Suzuki : [7]
Cappuccino (EA11R) '91
Cappuccino (EA21R) '95
Cappuccino (EA21R) [RM] '95
Cervo SR '07
Swift Sport '05
Swift Sport '07
SX4 WRC '08


Tesla : [1]
Roadster '08

Toyota : [26]
86 GT '12
Camry #11 Denny Hamlin NASCAR '10
Camry #11 Denny Hamlin NASCAR '11
Camry #18 Kyle Busch NASCAR '10
Camry #18 Kyle Busch NASCAR '11
Camry #20 Joey Logano NASCAR Home Depot '10
Camry #20 Joey Logano NASCAR Gamestop '10
Camry #20 Joey Logano NASCAR Home Depot '11
Camry #83 Brian Vickers NASCAR '10
Camry #83 Brian Vickers NASCAR '11
Celica GT-Four TTE WRC (ST205) '95
FT-86 Concept '09
FT-86 G Sports Concept '10
FT-86 II Concept '11
Prius G '09
Prius Touring Car
Supra 2.5GT Twin Turbo R '90
Supra 3.0GT Turbo A '88
Supra au Cerumo JGTC '01
Supra Castrol Tom's JGTC '97
Supra Castrol Tom's JGTC '00
Supra Castrol Tom's JGTC '01
Supra Denso Sard JGTC '00
Supra WoodOne Tom's JGTC '03
Supra Yellow Hat YMS Super GT '05
Vitz RS 1.5 '07

TVR : [3]
Tamora '02
Tuscan Speed Six '00
Tuscan Speed Six [RM] '00

Volkswagen : [11]
Beetle 1100 Standard (Type-11) '49
Beetle 1200 '66
Golf IV GTI '01
Golf IV GTI [RM] '01
Golf IV R32 '03
Golf V GTI '05
Golf VI R '10
Kubelwagen Typ82 '44
Schwimmwagen Typ166 '42
Scirocco R '10
Type2 (T1) SambaBus '62

Volvo : [1]
C30 R-Design '09

Total Cars: 499

 

[gamerdog6482]

No, in my opinion having Bob there to help you ruins the experience of a driving simulator like the GT series...

So no, leave B-spec at GT5....

I think the opposite. B-Spec did me so much good in GT5 and GT4.

 

[thelvynau]

Everyone needs to quit whining about standards. Standards aren't that bad. It could be worse; all of them could be standard. Not buying GTs because of standards is a pretty lame reason. I like premium cars, but be grateful we have as many premiums we have now.

Ah so car standards from 7 years ago in a next gen console works for you?

Im sorry if I wanted that I would buy something else from that era and save alot of money.

 

[SlipZtrEm]

Right, I just spent some time seeing which Standard cars can easily be converted to Premium. By that I mean the car already has a Premium counterpart (e.g. the Standard M5 and Premium M5). Little tweaks and different liveries may be needed for its looks, but for the most part, the car is already modelled.

You forgot a few, actually

AC Cars: [1]

Acura: [1]
RSX Type-S '04

Alfa Romeo : [2]
147 2.0 Twin Spark '02
147 GTA '02

HKS : [1]
Genki Hyper Silvia RS2 (D1GP) '04

Honda : [3]
Civic Gathers Drider Race Car '98
Integra Type R (DC5) '03
Integra Type R Touring Car

HPA : [1]
Golf R32 Stage II (SEMA Award 2004)

Subaru : [5]
Impreza Cusco Advan JGTC '03
Impreza WRX STi (Type-II) '02
Impreza WRX STi Prodrive Style (Type-I) '01
Impreza WRX STi Spec-C (Type-II) '04
Impreza WRX STi Version (Type-I) '00

Total Cars: 517

I could've included basically every version of the Lancer Evo too; I through IV shared many parts, V and VI are very similar, and VII through IX all are essentially facelifts as well. I included the Scoobies on the basis of you including the R33 GT-R Road Going Version from Nismo: that would take a far amount of remodelling, at least as much as punching out some new noses and taillights for the existing '05 STI . On that basis, the 147's may be a bit too different from the '06 model, but I can't imagine so. The Integras/RSX is a simple facelift.

I'd say the front-drive Clios/Lutecias probably shouldn't be on the list: they're very different cars from the mid-engine lunatic. But either way, your list is awesome, for pointing out how easy it'd be to convert a vast chunk of GT5's car list to Premium: 517 (and more) just using the current Premium lineup as a base is impressive. Even more when you consider, in reality, we don't need every tiny permutation of a model, but even if PD wants to keep them in, a lot of their work is pretty much done for them.

It'd be interesting to compare your list with the "erase the duplicates/very very similars" list that floats around, to see how many actual unique cars PD would need to work on.

 

[C_Raccoon23]

Everyone needs to quit whining about standards. Standards aren't that bad. It could be worse; all of them could be standard. Not buying GTs because of standards is a pretty lame reason. I like premium cars, but be grateful we have as many premiums we have now.

It's not a lame reason. If they can't make one of the most noticeable and obvious parts of the game consistent, they don't deserve my money.

And standards aren't that bad? I'll believe that once PD allows us to get as close as we want to them in photo mode and allow us to use them in Photo Travel.

 

[Griffith500]

Right, I just spent some time seeing which Standard cars can easily be converted to Premium. By that I mean the car already has a Premium counterpart (e.g. the Standard M5 and Premium M5). Little tweaks and different liveries may be needed for its looks, but for the most part, the car is already modelled.

You forgot a few, actually
Total Cars: 517

Holy wotsit, that's changed my perspective somewhat! I expected PD would be at about the 400 - 500 mark of entirely new models by this November, but this means that they're likely to be beyond that already.

Of course, there are likely to be casualties from that list, like there were from GT2, and that means more of the cars will be scratch built (or maybe there'll just be new "duplicates".) But still, it's looking promising for well over 700 Premium cars in GT6 now.

 

[tpark103]

0!!!!! Standard cars not 1 standard car. If its not complete then don't put it in!!

 

[1241Penguin]

You forgot a few, actually

I also had a few extras in, oops!

I could've included basically every version of the Lancer Evo too; I through IV shared many parts, V and VI are very similar, and VII through IX all are essentially facelifts as well. I included the Scoobies on the basis of you including the R33 GT-R Road Going Version from Nismo: that would take a far amount of remodelling, at least as much as punching out some new noses and taillights for the existing '05 STI . On that basis, the 147's may be a bit too different from the '06 model, but I can't imagine so. The Integras/RSX is a simple facelift.

The relationship between Evo I-III, Evo IV-Evo VI, and Evo VII-IX, are that they are facelifts, essentially (cosmetically wise). Likewise with the GC and GD Subaru Imprezas. The same applies for a few other cars as well, like the 147 in your example, so I think your idea makes a lot of sense. 👍

I'd say the front-drive Clios/Lutecias probably shouldn't be on the list: they're very different cars from the mid-engine lunatic. But either way, your list is awesome, for pointing out how easy it'd be to convert a vast chunk of GT5's car list to Premium: 517 (and more) just using the current Premium lineup as a base is impressive. Even more when you consider, in reality, we don't need every tiny permutation of a model, but even if PD wants to keep them in, a lot of their work is pretty much done for them.

Thanks!

Hopefully, PD don't lazy out again and just port them over. That'd be terrible!

It'd be interesting to compare your list with the "erase the duplicates/very very similars" list that floats around, to see how many actual unique cars PD would need to work on.

Unique cars, as in, say, a first generation Ford Focus? Where there aren't any prior models to use as a basis?

 

[Tyger]

I really don't understand what you guys are doing here. The assumption seems to be that cars are modelled then various additional features are bolted on or taken off making the models interchangeable, but that's simply not how they are modelled. You're kinda confusing real life with 3D modelling.

Sure there are many instances where PD have done that deliberately, but within premiums, or within standards. There isn't that compatibility between premiums and standards, the latter of which were modelled for the PS2 and contain a far lower polygon count.

Premiums need to be pretty much scratch-built, and surely their time is better spent modelling different models entirely, than focusing on having two DB9s, two Clios...etc?

 

[TokoTurismo]

Sorry if this doesn't come out nice @1241Penguin, but I'm not really digging that list at all. Cars like the DB9 '03, the M5 '05, the Lutecias and those duplicates expect for the premiums but the standards ones. You're also missing some cars like the TVR Speed 12.

Why do we need all those Skylines and S2000s and the others that are the same again? The old ones should be scraped away, no need for them, and for the duplicates they need to be scraped away as well so there can be room the news cars, such as more space for the variety of other cars that'll be new in Gran Turismo.

 

[Froudeybrand]

do we need 2 of the same model ie a R34 99, 00, 01, I understand if is a Nismo GTR 99 and a bltiz 99 GTR etc etc but why have one car 3 or 4 times over.

I don't see the big deal in the whole standard vs premium debate it's the preminum difference that you can see inside the cockpit or em I missing something.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

PD should have used certain premiums to replace duplicate standards, eg : R32 GTR premium could have been used for all standard version R32 GTR, including Nismo R32 GTR S tune, with some minor changes like wheels and badges. This way duplicates of standard could be had in premium rather easily and less work.

Ooops, treed

 

[MSTER232]

PD should have used certain premiums to replace duplicate standards, eg : R32 GTR premium could have been used for all standard version R32 GTR, including Nismo R32 GTR S tune, with some minor changes like wheels and badges. This way duplicates of standard could be had in premium rather easily and less work.

Mazda RX-7, RX-8, MX-5 and many other cars can be changed from standard to premium.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Exactly like what 1241Penguin posted earlier, so many standard cars should have been premium with little time and effort, PD is just damn clueless or what

 

[MSTER232]

Exactly like what 1241Penguin posted earlier, so many standard cars should have been premium with little time and effort, PD is just damn clueless or what

After thinking about it for a while, although many cars could have been premium with minor efforts, is it just me or am I the only one who wouldn't appreciate having 7 different re-named cars that are exactly the same in the new car dealer? When I put it this way, I think that the duplicates that are often found in the UCD should have been omitted from the game completely, as they are a waste of space and resources.

 

[mrkevans]

I hate the standards but end up using them a lot because they seem to be better handling cars, for example the ford gt no stripe is far superior to the premium ford gt! That really annoys me

 

[MSTER232]

I hate the standards but end up using them a lot because they seem to be better handling cars, for example the ford gt no stripe is far superior to the premium ford gt! That really annoys me

Another reason why I dislike standard cars, although for some reason I liked them better than premium cars at the start of the game for their tinted windows . Nearly all standard cars have better handling than their premium counterparts because the standard cars are directly imported from Gran Turismo 4 and given a slight touch up so that they don't look too bad. But unfortunately that means that they have a little bit of the older physics in them, where despite the horrific understeer in GT4, they still had better grip than cars in GT5 at times.