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- Oslo, Norway
- KaAre_kaNin
The 20 tracks issue is really bugging me
- Thread starter PSNkilluminati
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I am strongly against the idea of DLC. Now don't get me wrong, there is now PSN and people have HDDs. The part that bothers me is what happened in the past.
I waited patiently for the online patch that never came for GT 4 and then for the damage patch that never came to prologue.
Now I see people talking about them patching the damage in GT 5 later to include more cars and talking about how only 20 courses is ok because we can expect big things later in the form of DLC.
Maybe that's true......but maybe not. My previous experience waiting for polyphony do such things hasn't always worked out how at first it seemed it would.
I waited patiently for the online patch that never came for GT 4 and then for the damage patch that never came to prologue.
Now I see people talking about them patching the damage in GT 5 later to include more cars and talking about how only 20 courses is ok because we can expect big things later in the form of DLC.
Maybe that's true......but maybe not. My previous experience waiting for polyphony do such things hasn't always worked out how at first it seemed it would.
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- Wattsterplus
- XML Binging Language?
You seem to missing the point completely.
The majority of members accept the translation, of a page, which was pulled and therefore cannot be taken as fact. Thanks to the many many many who keep translating it, its not really an issue.
You will also notice the translation says 'more than' 20 tracks, close to 100 is more than 20 tracks, and to back this up we have Amars' winds. They havent been wrong so far. IMO I would class these details as more factual than the website.
Now as it stands at this moment in time:
-Translation states 20 tracks.
-Amars winds translate to close to one hundred tracks (probably including variations)
-PD reps have been quoted as saying all GT4 tracks should be in GT5.
-Public opinion based on what they want suggests more than 20 tracks, PD will have done market research.
-PD are known for keeping things quiet, its perfectly acceptable to consider PD are keeping the number of tracks quiet for TGS. This will keep competition, ie Forza, in the dark.
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- Gamersnet
I don't like the DLC either. I bought the 60GB version and now have only 9GB left. The prologue cost me a 5GB installation. What about GT5's full version? And what about the updates?
- 5,502
- Vic, Australia
- gundalini
I agree mate i don't want DLC either but that's the way of this gen.
Alot of other devolpers do it and I don't see PD being any different, I just don't want to see DLC being available not long after the game is realeased like Tiger Woods 10 for example. To me that just says yep we've already produced this content but we wont put it on the disc so we can garnish more money of you later.
On the flip side of the coin lets just say GT6 take 4 to 5 years to release after GT5, there is going to be alot of new desirable models of real cars released in that time and for that I wouldn't mind paying a small fee instead of waiting for GT6.
Just my view who knows if there will be GT6 anyway?
I'd be happy for there to be DLC, to add cars/tracks, or to have 'Spec II' etc updates to add bits to the game as they have with Prologue. A great model to show how DLC can be good is Burnout Paradise, they've added a lot of stuff to that game and kept it fresh over the 18 months since the original game, and a lot of it as free game updates. If Polyphony can do something similar and add features to GT5, bring it on.
Just translated to keep some people on track. To tell that it is not a rumor, but it is true that it said so. Never tried to tell people that this is a fact. But if I miss understood anything, I apologise
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- It/It
- GTP_TheCracker
Yet GT5
rologue, which is little more than an extended demo, has already been updated twice and has had a constant stream of updated online races to compete in.The translation says "MORE than 20 courses", that means that we don't know the exact number of tracks to be realeased with the game, but there certainly will be... more than 20.
On top of that, those details were taken off the website hours later, meaning... just about anything, an error, leak, you name it.
I have been reading this forum from some time now, and although I realise it's full of fans, I noticed a lot of people go nuts for bits of "news" that aren't even confirmed, or just rumors or interpretations.
I think most people just need to chill out, we've been waiting for this game for too long, we don't need to go ballistics on the final lap. The Tokyo Game Show is around the corner, things will be clearer then. And if they (PD) don't give us anything there, well, we'll keep waiting, there's plenty of games to play while we're at it, including GT PSP.
My point is, if we don't know something for sure, we might just as well stay positive about it.
On top of that, those details were taken off the website hours later, meaning... just about anything, an error, leak, you name it.
I have been reading this forum from some time now, and although I realise it's full of fans, I noticed a lot of people go nuts for bits of "news" that aren't even confirmed, or just rumors or interpretations.
I think most people just need to chill out, we've been waiting for this game for too long, we don't need to go ballistics on the final lap. The Tokyo Game Show is around the corner, things will be clearer then. And if they (PD) don't give us anything there, well, we'll keep waiting, there's plenty of games to play while we're at it, including GT PSP.
My point is, if we don't know something for sure, we might just as well stay positive about it.
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- Wattsterplus
- XML Binging Language?
Just translated to keep some people on track. To tell that it is not a rumor, but it is true that it said so. Never tried to tell people that this is a fact. But if I miss understood anything, I apologise
Your translation was appreciated to confirm what we already, and would have been useful for anyone late to the game, please dont think i meant anything otherwise. 👍👍
And i understand that you never said it was fact, and i wasnt aiming my comment at you. Apologies for misunderstanding.
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- GTP_Royalton
Tracks from the Weather Map
Calm down everyone, GT5 is going to have alot of tracks, much more then any other GT game.
No matter how many tracks are in the game at launch, personally I believe it is a very high chance all these tracks will be in GT5, either from day one on the disc or from DLC at a later date.
BLACK = confirmed before being shown on GT5 weather list
RED = confirmed after being shown on GT5 weather list
BLUE = Still not confirmed but on the weather list and a lock to appear in the game IMO
GREEN = Has been in the GT series before
Daytona
Suzuka
Spa-Francorchamps
Imola
Infineon
Tsukuba
Silverstone
Brand Hatch
Estorial
Twin Ring Motegi
Hockenheim
Nurburg
Fuji
Indianapolis
Magny-Cours
Jerez
Shanghai
Monza
Monaco
Laguna Seca
So what am I trying to say?
There is some awesome tracks heading our way, either Day 1 or later on down the road.
If your wondering about what tracks will be in the game, it's logical to expect classic original GT tracks compiled with these new comers on the weather map.
Calm down everyone, GT5 is going to have alot of tracks, much more then any other GT game.
No matter how many tracks are in the game at launch, personally I believe it is a very high chance all these tracks will be in GT5, either from day one on the disc or from DLC at a later date.
BLACK = confirmed before being shown on GT5 weather list
RED = confirmed after being shown on GT5 weather list
BLUE = Still not confirmed but on the weather list and a lock to appear in the game IMO
GREEN = Has been in the GT series before
Daytona
Suzuka
Spa-Francorchamps
Imola
Infineon
Tsukuba
Silverstone
Brand Hatch
Estorial
Twin Ring Motegi
Hockenheim
Nurburg
Fuji
Indianapolis
Magny-Cours
Jerez
Shanghai
Monza
Monaco
Laguna Seca
So what am I trying to say?
There is some awesome tracks heading our way, either Day 1 or later on down the road.
If your wondering about what tracks will be in the game, it's logical to expect classic original GT tracks compiled with these new comers on the weather map.
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irnbru, I respect that some members are aware of the translation, but there is a very annoying amount of misinformation, guesswork and rumor milling, and it was only causing more confusion. I didn't come in here looking to make trouble, I just found the thread really tedious to read. If you think I'm missing the point in trying to clear that up, then I guess we're not on the same page.
By the way, do you have a source of PD saying we'll get all the tracks in GT4? I'd like to see it.
Interesting list Earth 👍 except the info-link has made Brands Hatch go green, lol. I really hope that they work through those circuits, as there's some great ones there.
By the way, do you have a source of PD saying we'll get all the tracks in GT4? I'd like to see it.
Interesting list Earth 👍 except the info-link has made Brands Hatch go green, lol. I really hope that they work through those circuits, as there's some great ones there.
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I think the important thing is, we WILL have Many Many courses, one way or another, and as said earlier, it doesn't really concern someone who is going to buy "Premium" anyway.
DLC should be embraced, it's not going away, so we gotta figure out how to work with it, surely the "Base" pack plus individual DLC's would probably run you more then just getting "Premium" to begin with, but i'm sure there will be a possibility to "upgrade" from Base to Platinum in case you want to change your mind and take it all without getting it one by one.
Much respect to the translators and skeptics, insiders, mods and devotees cuz without them we would have no info at all.
DLC should be embraced, it's not going away, so we gotta figure out how to work with it, surely the "Base" pack plus individual DLC's would probably run you more then just getting "Premium" to begin with, but i'm sure there will be a possibility to "upgrade" from Base to Platinum in case you want to change your mind and take it all without getting it one by one.
Much respect to the translators and skeptics, insiders, mods and devotees cuz without them we would have no info at all.
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The more I think about it the more I think all of that "leaked" info is infact true.
IMO the most likely reason why it was posted and then removed was simply that it was posted ahead of schedule. If it were posted and had something wrong with it as simple as a typo they would have simply edited it and not removed the whole thing entirely.
If this were "leaked" from any other site and then removed I would dismiss everything in it, but the fact that it was posted at Gran Turismo .com makes it hard to ignore.
On a more positive note, having YouTube interconectivity is a GREAT Idea 👍 ( I hope we can upload 720p quality, that would be amazing )
Lets not forget there were a lot of positive things posted on that "leaked" list that I very much hope are true.
IMO the most likely reason why it was posted and then removed was simply that it was posted ahead of schedule. If it were posted and had something wrong with it as simple as a typo they would have simply edited it and not removed the whole thing entirely.
If this were "leaked" from any other site and then removed I would dismiss everything in it, but the fact that it was posted at Gran Turismo .com makes it hard to ignore.
On a more positive note, having YouTube interconectivity is a GREAT Idea 👍 ( I hope we can upload 720p quality, that would be amazing )
Lets not forget there were a lot of positive things posted on that "leaked" list that I very much hope are true.
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I feel the same. I am all for DLC if it means we get to start playing the foundations of a game that's only going to grow into a massive, epic beast.
IF it's 20~25 tracks at launch, there will be a reason, like that they are programming them for the dynamic weather or maybe mapping much larger areas of the cities so that tires and barriers could be used to create new paths through the streets?
IF it's 20~25 tracks at launch, there will be a reason, like that they are programming them for the dynamic weather or maybe mapping much larger areas of the cities so that tires and barriers could be used to create new paths through the streets?
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- It/It
- GTP_TheCracker
If it is just 20 circuits at first, it severely limits fixed parts of the games like championships, one makes, missions, license tests and the like. I know with probable DLC circuits being available in the future, it means we'll end up with more of them than we currently have in GT4, but for those of us who enjoy playing what has always been the 'core' part of the GT experience, we're going to end up getting sick of those same few circuits - even if they have multiple layouts and directions.
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- petter_mo
Well, sometime you have to think with logic. Logic tell me that in no way that the biggest game PD has ever made, with the largest disc available, is no going to ship 40+ less tracks they the predecessor and 15 less then the Mobile version.
20 tracks wouldn't even cover WRC and NASCAR. On the low side there probably is at least 5 tracks for each.
@Justin, cant believe I agreed with a Vikqueens fan
do you realy think there will be that many wrc and nascsar tracks..
i think the wrc and nascar part of the game will grow with dlc over time , and not at lunch..
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- MrSchmo
GT
SP has 7 Rally tracks... so no I dont think 5 is far fetched. As far as NASCAR goes, we know there is Daytona, waiting to see if there is Walkens Glen or Infinion Raceway is there. But 5 doesnt sound to unreasonable.Thats why 20 tracks is ludicrous.
Also I think you meant Launch... not lunch
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20 Tracks? no way.
Has anyone created an Official Track List of those seen in video's / screenshots? Surely it's about time one was made that's akin to the car list.
I thought the official announcement was 60 tracks + another 20 still TBC. To me that says there will be at least 60 tracks plus another 20 that are either incomplete at the time of writing, complete but no official license has been granted yet for it appear or a future DLC download.
If GT5 has the WRC & NASCAR licenses then I think it's safe to assume that there will be tracks from bother series inlcuded - NASCAR uses road courses and not just ovals, and WRC events start off & end usually in stadium loops.
Has anyone created an Official Track List of those seen in video's / screenshots? Surely it's about time one was made that's akin to the car list.
I thought the official announcement was 60 tracks + another 20 still TBC. To me that says there will be at least 60 tracks plus another 20 that are either incomplete at the time of writing, complete but no official license has been granted yet for it appear or a future DLC download.
If GT5 has the WRC & NASCAR licenses then I think it's safe to assume that there will be tracks from bother series inlcuded - NASCAR uses road courses and not just ovals, and WRC events start off & end usually in stadium loops.
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- Gamersnet
Google translate says for this quote of somebody in this topic:
20コース以上、60のレイアウト以上
More than 20 courses, more than 60 layouts
Don't get mad of something you don't know yet.
20コース以上、60のレイアウト以上
More than 20 courses, more than 60 layouts
Don't get mad of something you don't know yet.
- 1,096
- Wattsterplus
- XML Binging Language?
Is it just me or is this thread forever going in circles.
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- 736
- MrSchmo
If it was still posted on the site... I'd give you that. But since its not... its back to speculation.
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It's not just you
The figures I am talking about are the only ones that have ever been seen. All other figures are made-up, at this point. We don't know if the "over 20 tracks, with over 60 layouts" will come true, but those are the only numbers that have been published.
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