The 2012 Driver transfer discussion/speculation thread

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Okay, time for one of my patented crazy posts: could Jaime Alguersuari wind up at Williams?

For this to work, it does require common sense to prevail, but the timings work out nicely. Back when the team was negotiating with Kimi Raikkonen, Frank Williams said that he wanted to finalise his driver line-up in time for Christmas. But with Raikkonen going to Lotus, that is going to upset his timeline. The first thing he would do is stop and take stock of things rather than rush to a decision on another driver - and apparently he did just that, because Sebastien Buemi said Williams called him and offered him a seat. Buemi turned it down, but I'm willing to bet that Jaime Alguersuari received a similar call.

Williams' contract with AT&T ran out on January 1st. I can find no evidence that this was a sudden turn of events for the team; it appears that they were gradually phasing AT&T out at the time. They have since said that they have been talking to a "major mobile phone company". Looking at the list of mobile phone providers, I cannot help but notice that Telefonicia is the fourth-biggest in the world. Vodafone and America Movil (Claro is their major brand) are already spoken for, and China Mobile works in markets that have little connection to Formula 1.

Telefonicia have been involved in the sport before, and they like their Spanish drivers - they were a secondary sponsor or Renault before Alonso moved to McLaren. When Alguersuari appeared on the driver market without warning, I can see Telefonicia viewing him as a young Spanish driver with plenty of potential, and the Williams name being one of the most recognisable in the sport. They've had a poor year in 2011, but their ability to turn themselves around will probably be a major sub-plot to the 2012 season, which would probably get them a lot of coverage that Telefonicia could buy into. And with Alguersuari's reputation for providing succinct and accurate feedback on the car, he could very well be the kind of driver Williams would look at. And of all the available drivers, he's probably the best candidate out there. Better than Sutil, even.

So, Alguersuari to Williams, anyone?

They could both be as good as Vettel, we don't know.
Based on the evidence at hand, they're not. You can't expect Red Bull and Toro Rosso to make driver decisions based on what might happen in the future, especially when there is no evidence in the past to substantiate it. They need the two best drivers available to them at any given time, and they obviously feel that Daniel Ricciardo and Jean-Eric Vergne are those drivers. Why should they commit to Buemi and Alguersuari for another year? They had their chances. Red Bull obviously feel they haven't done enough to retain their seats. Dropping them is harsh, but that's the nature of the beast.
 
Aye, I thought about the Alguersuari-Williams possibility myself today for about 1 minute. It sure fits with the delay on the open Williams seat, although I wasn't aware of the Telefonica puzzle piece.
 
I'm not saying that Telefonicia are negotiating with Williams, only that they fit the bill of someone who might sponsor the team. Williams say they are in advance talks with a major mobile phone company, and Telfonicia is the fourth-biggest in the world. They've been involved in the sport before and they like Spanish drivers. Williams' need for a title sponsor and Alguersuari's need for support would suit all three parties nicely.
 
There's a nice little storm brewing on Twitter. A few journalsits in Spain reckon Vitaly Petrov has signed for HRT, while another group of journalists claim he hasn't, but confirmation of his future will come in two weeks.
 
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Well that's hardly fair. He didn't set the world on fire, but it was ended due to him being hit in the eye with a stone.

That's my point, he was a talented sports-car driver, but until that fateful day at Clermont-Ferrand (he was running 4th), he hadn't exactly set the world on fire.

Pot, kettle...I think they've met before.
 
I thought about Jaime going to Williams, but would it make sense to get him and leave Sutil out? Because at least I think Sutil is way better. And Rubens, of course, would be the leader Williams needs now that they're restructuring. So it doesn't sound very plausible to me.
 
It depends on what Williams is looking for in a driver, and how they rate Algeursuari and Sutil in comparison to one another.
 
But at the same time, you have to balance that against whether or not Sutil has any untapped potential, and if he does, then does he have more than a driver like Alguersuari?



Anyway, more conflicting reports of driver announcements. Some claim Vitaly Petrov's future will be revealed today, while others say it will be made known on the 20th.
 
I haven't heard anything like that. I think he's just making fun of the way the announcement of Petrov's future seems to keep getting pushed back.
 
I assume Petrov means he'll announce it sometime before then. It might be tomorrow, it might be Febuary 17th, It might be the day before the Thursday Press Conference at Melbourne.
 
If Petrov has a drive, it will be announced before the first test of the winter sessions. There is no way any team - not even HRT (though they did it in 2010) - would announce a driver just before the first race, with no testing over the winter break. When Petrov first joined Renault, he was announced as a Renault driver at the unveiling of the R30, but he still got testing time.

The most reliable reports claim an announcement will be made on the 20th of this month, though some people seem to think it will be on the 16th or the 17th. It appears an announacement will be made, but it is simply a question of when the team feels it is the best time to make it.
 
In completely unrelated news I saw Jenson Button today. He pulled up alongside in his MP4-12C on the M40. He was hammering along.


Most related place I could post this at the time :D
 
In completely unrelated news I saw Jenson Button today. He pulled up alongside in his MP4-12C on the M40. He was hammering along.


Most related place I could post this at the time :D

If you videoed it, and sent it into McLaren, AND you had beat him, AND they offered you a test, you may be looking at Fully-on topic.
 
Rumour: Vitaly Petrov to announce rumour of rumoured drive.

Rumour: Oksana Kosachenko to deny rumour of rumoured driver.

Rumour: Russians don't know what "rumour" means.
 
So today at work, it was really slow. And since I had nothing else to do, I decided to jot down what I thought the 2013 lineups would look like. I'll just list it by 2011 final standings.

Red Bull:
-Vettel
-Ricciardo

McLaren:
-Button
-Hamilton

Ferrari:
-Alonso
-Perez

Mercedes:
-Rosberg
-Di Resta

Lotus:
-Raikkonen
-Grosjean

Force India:
-Hulkenberg
-Massa

Sauber:
-Kobayashi
-Bianchi

Toro Rosso:
-Vergne
-Williamson

Williams:
-Sutil
-Senna

Caterham:
-Kovalainen
-Rossi

Marussia:
-Glock
-Petrov

HRT:
-De La Rosa
-Liuzzi

That was based off what we know, what we speculate, and my own imagination.
 
I see Kovalainen at Mercedes or at least Force India by then. But then again, if Caterham steps up their game this year, he may stick around.

Rosberg and Di Resta is a good guess, but I think McLaren may have their eyes set on Di Resta for when Button retires OR when Hamilton has a nervous breakdown, etc.

Massa is a bit of an oddball one... Maybe they rope him in at Mercedes to replace the leaving Schumacher? That's Ross Brawn working with a driver he has known for a few years at least.
 
I liked that you put Rossi in the big leagues next year, and if Caterham up their game Americans will have a man to follow. I don't see Ricciardo at RBR just yet I think Buemi will get the chance at Webber's seat. Plus having seen interview with Ricciardo I see the classic Aussie ego (not to be mean to Aussies) that would have him speak out against things like Webber does. Which would be great actually.
 
In completely unrelated news I saw Jenson Button today. He pulled up alongside in his MP4-12C on the M40. He was hammering along.


Most related place I could post this at the time :D

Rumor: Petrov to announce he's buying Jenson Button's car before the Interlagos GP.
 
Maybe it's a blessing in disguise. Kubica apparently fell out with Renault management over his comback - from what I heard, he was disregarding his doctors' advice to try and make his comeback sooner. Maybe this will slow him down a bit, so that when he does return, he will be absolutely ready for it.

Anyway there's a seaprate thread for Kubica's injuries. In terms of the silly season, it looks like Tonio Liuzzi will be without a drive in 2012:

http://en.espnf1.com/hrtf1/motorsport/story/67657.html?CMP=OTC-RSS

HRT have said they are looking for a young driver with potential, but they will not be Spanish.
 
Good, no more Monza Skittles.

I hope that if Petrov does end up at HRT (in the event not Williams, which no source has proven/clued he is even in talks with), that he sees it as an opportunity. All he'd have to do to look good is beat at least 1 other non-HRT car as many times as he can throughout the year, and that should give him a nice leg up into talks with a better team for 2013.
 
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