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The 2020 George Floyd/BLM/Police Brutality Protests Discussion Thread
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Utter fools. Trying to trap people in the station and set it on fire, again, and again and again. Now they are using quick dry cement to try and seal the doors, creative but stupid.
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/sp...ng-rebar-concrete/5AERWGBGYJE7DC6CLW3PEKKAEE/
https://www.kiro7.com/news/local/sp...ng-rebar-concrete/5AERWGBGYJE7DC6CLW3PEKKAEE/
Danoff
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Somehow I missed the "not".
I wonder why it's ok for private sector employees to extort and not public sector.
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Well, it's not that it's ok, its mostly they don't have as much leverage so they are less successful - at least from what I've seen. It's a fairer "fight" between employer and union than it is between city and union, particularly when the union leverages their members to install political figures who then set their salary...
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****ing hypocrites
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Why don't they just go all the way and cancel the rest of the playoffs? Oh that's right it's really about the money, just like the situation with China, never mind.
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It also brings awareness which when it feels like you can't do anything substantial to change the situation is the most powerful tool you have.
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Too bad they aren't using their powerful tool to eviscerate Nike and others for using slave labor to make their products, but that's probably not something they want to bring awareness to during their virtue signaling. I mean, why bite the hand (China) that feeds you.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/simina...nd-apple-to-forced-uighur-labor/#2034d2961003
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oh that one again...
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You can roll your eyes all you want but the fact is that China pays, so the NBA plays.
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Sucks when the truth isn't convenient. Look, either the NBA players and organization care about the conditions Uighur's suffer or they don't. Their silence on the matter means they are complicit. Same goes for Google, Microsoft, Apple and others.
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True, but it seems rather odd how some people only seem to care about China when it conveniently fits their narrative.
For instance, @DDastardly00, are you planning on buying a next gen console despite the fact there is a chance it was/will be (at least partially) made using sweatshop labor?
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I am not planning on purchasing a next gen console at this time. Additionally the Uighur issue has been one that's been on my mind greatly since awareness was raised on the matter, and this predates any of the rioting taking place now by a significant amount of time, so it really has absolutely nothing to do with fitting a narrative or convenience. What is happening to the Uighurs is disgusting and appalling. It also amounts to severe human rights abuses that are abhorrent. Hong Kong is yet another issue....
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Sorry this conversation makes you uncomfortable but the NBA protesting police by boycotting their own playoff games while virtue signaling, but are completely silent on HK and the Uighurs is completely fair game because it highlights their hypocrisy.
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I like to get paid. I like to own things. Many of them are traced directly to China. My cell phone itself was made by Trump's number one enemy. However:
I ignore the actions of what's going on in China because I don't care compared to the actions of what's happening in the country I live in. Why am I supposed to when the argument is only being brought up in this thread, again, to deflect away from the discussion about what the thread is actually about? Especially since I thought there was an entire new thread made just so people can piss and moan that it's not fair that people aren't talking about thing X and are instead talking about police brutality.
I ignore the actions of what's going on in China because the US is supposed to be held to a higher standard than 🤬 communist dictatorships, or at least you'd think so with all the posturing the GOP does regarding China or any time "socialism" comes up. I don't consider "How come these people only care about what is happening in the US and not some terrible country that's doing the same thing" to be anything but a self-own.
You can call that hypocrisy if you want. I really don't care.
And I suspect that a sports league made up predominantly of black people who grew up with the kind of outrageous situations that are presenting themselves in the news regarding police officers have a much more direct vested interest about domestic police response to minorities than they do with something happening on the other side of the planet.
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Depends who it is. LeBron James? Sure. He's definitely showcased his hypocrisy.
Some names though, like Steve Kerr have spoken out, apologizing for not standing up for Morey when he put China on blast. Others like Dwayne Casey & Draymond Green have commented that they are not actually aware of China's human rights issue, which isn't far-fetched. US media rarely focuses on China unless Trump brings up a deal with them, definitely no national coverage of their inner-country issues.
But, when you highlight an article showcasing that a wide variety of major businesses have a place in China with ties to China's violations of humans, it only showcases that the issue with China is one that'll have to be tackled by the globe as whole. Until then, we're more than free to fight other humanitarian issues until that unification comes.
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That's okay, neither do I. But my phone is actually made in Thailand!
But this really isn't. As they know what suffering (not comparable to what is happening in China though) is they should have taken a stand against the deal with the Chinese government, but they didn't so they're ****ing hypocrites of the highest order.
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Everyone saw that episode of Last Week Tonight with Jon Oliver and now all they can talk about is the Uighurs. They found something they can champion as "why aren't they protesting about this?" and are milking it dry
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This may just be me, but I personally don't get how the NBAs complicity with China automatically means that any genuine protest by the players and/or teams is instantly moot.
Is it hypocritical? Yeah, and in the case of the NBA, there silence on China is a bit annoying. But I don't see how that devalues the teams (seemingly) genuine protest for something that's happening in most player/teams home country, the effects of which can potentially hit closer to home (pardon the pun), since most of the players are already, from what I understand, set for life.
Granted, I'm not an NBA/Basketball fan in the absolute slightest, so my view might be a bit skewed in that regard.
Is it hypocritical? Yeah, and in the case of the NBA, there silence on China is a bit annoying. But I don't see how that devalues the teams (seemingly) genuine protest for something that's happening in most player/teams home country, the effects of which can potentially hit closer to home (pardon the pun), since most of the players are already, from what I understand, set for life.
Granted, I'm not an NBA/Basketball fan in the absolute slightest, so my view might be a bit skewed in that regard.
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They'll forget about it in a week like they have Cannon.
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A coach apologizing for not standing up for another coach while he was shining a light on China's political takeover in HK is not the same thing as criticizing China for their actions in HK. I wouldn't hold my breath that they would do the right thing any way, the NBA is clearly in bed with China and they may as well have a baby on the way.
Google, Apple and Microsoft can stop doing business in China nothing is stopping them, well, other than greed.
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It doesn't, and don't let anyone try to make you think it does.
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