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If he wasn't in the Red Bull circle I would say Sainz is the best option to replace Kimi but he is so that's likely a no.
 
Red Bull already made their big move to secure Verstappen. As ridiculous as they can be they aren't going to get rid of Ricciardo just cause, he will have to be particularly poor, which I don't see happening. Sainz is very much available if anyone wants him, but is he ready for the big step? Red Bull will pamper their youngstets, but Ferrari won't.
 
Sainz is a free agent as of next year right? So I don't see why Ferrari won't look at him bar the lack of experience. He's very quick, coolheaded, and understands the big picture of the team. He could come in as Sebs number 2 then maybe work his way to 1st driver by the time he's in his mid 20s
 
I think for anyone with World Championship ambitions, whether it's Rosberg, Sainz or anyone else who doesn't have a childhood dream of driving for them (like Vettel or Grosjean), signing with Ferrari is a massive, massive risk. Outside of the Schumacher years, Ferrari has demonstrated a rather unmatched ability to botch things up - it's who they are.

If I'm Sainz, my main target is the other RB seat, depending what Ricci does. If that's not available, and neither is a Merc, I might be content to stay with Toro Rosso. RB have Gasly, but it's debatable whether he's ready, and I really don't think the have 2 juniors to fill both TR seats next year.

Williams looke to be going backwards, and McLaren is a complete unknown.

If I was an F1 driver without a contract for next year, I'd actually be quite depressed, as so many of the seats are just grid fillers. Sad really.

I think the other main play in this silly season is to start alining your contract situation so that you are a free agent going into the 2020 season.
 
Dotini
"Imagine it ... Hamilton and Alonso, Vettel and Rosberg, Ricciardo and Verstappen, Button and Vandoorne, Magnussen and Ocon, Bottas and Lynn, Sainz and Gasly, Hulkenberg, Perez and Grosjean." - Will Buxton
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The first guy in the comments tries to tell us that the top 14 best drivers in the world are all NASCAR drivers, and then tries to justify it after every comment.
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Dotini
"Imagine it ... Hamilton and Alonso, Vettel and Rosberg, Ricciardo and Verstappen, Button and Vandoorne, Magnussen and Ocon, Bottas and Lynn, Sainz and Gasly, Hulkenberg, Perez and Grosjean." - Will Buxton
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Eh, it seems to be driven by pure fantasy more than anything else, assuming that teams will make decisions based on what will get the biggest headlines. Sometimes it doesn't even bear any resemblance to reality. I mean, he says that Kvyat is done because Red Bull demoted him, but then he has Williams promoting Lynn. Lynn was a Red Bull driver and walked away of his own volition, but it's no secret that Red Bull had to choose between Lynn and Gasly and chose Gasly. Lynn can only really hold a position; I haven't seen any actual consistent overtaking from him. So I don't know what planet Buxton is on to suggest that Kvyat will be released and Lynn promoted, but I suspect that the British double standard is coming into effect - Buxton only likes him because he's British.
 
prisonermonkeys
Eh, it seems to be driven by pure fantasy more than anything else, assuming that teams will make decisions based on what will get the biggest headlines. Sometimes it doesn't even bear any resemblance to reality. I mean, he says that Kvyat is done because Red Bull demoted him, but then he has Williams promoting Lynn. Lynn was a Red Bull driver and walked away of his own volition, but it's no secret that Red Bull had to choose between Lynn and Gasly and chose Gasly. Lynn can only really hold a position; I haven't seen any actual consistent overtaking from him. So I don't know what planet Buxton is on to suggest that Kvyat will be released and Lynn promoted, but I suspect that the British double standard is coming into effect - Buxton only likes him because he's British.
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While I appreciate his insight, sometimes I think Buxton fancies himself anointed arbiter of destiny for the tight little world of F1 drivers, floating grandly amongst the stars and comets.
 
Dotini
While I appreciate his insight, sometimes I think Buxton fancies himself anointed arbiter of destiny for the tight little world of F1 drivers, floating grandly amongst the stars and comets.
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It's good that he's passionate about GP2, but I do agree that he likes to present himself as something of a gatekeeper to the world of Formula 1. Like I said, his praise of Alex Lynn is conflated at best, and I find it curious that at the same time, he sees no future for Sergey Sirotkin.
 
Honestly I think Rio's done alright. He hasn't been completely overwhelmed by Pascal which was important coming in based on the hype around him. He's been quietly working at the back of the order gaining confidence in an F1 car.

I don't think he's World champion material of course but I think he deserves to be in the sport for more than one year.

saying that, there are a lot of drivers who deserve to be in the sport...
 
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Honestly I think Rio's done alright. He hasn't been completely overwhelmed by Pascal which was important coming in based on the hype around him. He's been quietly working at the back of the order gaining confidence in an F1 car.

I don't think he's World champion material of course but I think he deserves to be in the sport for more than one year.

saying that, there are a lot of drivers who deserve to be in the sport...
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I agree, he has been quiet and out of sight most of the season, which I'd say is good when you drive for the slowest team on the grid.
 
Andrew Benson is trying to make out that Button is already on the outer with McLaren. He's pulling a Johnny Herbert, trying to lay the groundwork for a stunning coup when Button leaves, except that it didn't work when he did it in 2014 and again in 2015.

Auto Bild claim that McLaren are interested in Nico Rosberg, which makes absolutely no sense, but is still only the second-stupidest thing they have written this week after suggesting that Pascal Wehrlein will replace Lewis Hamilton in Monaco.

Curiously, Auto Bild also claim that Prema Racing are weighing up a Formula One bid. Given their recent expansion into GP2 and the time that it takes to get all of the infrastructure in place, it's probably not something that will happen any time soon - but Prema are one of the junior teams that could pull it off (the others being ART Grand Prix and DAMS), and they have some kind of deal with Teddy Yip (who seems to have given up on Status Grand Prix), and he has talked about getting the Theodore Racing Concern name back into Formula One.
 
prisonermonkeys
Andrew Benson is trying to make out that Button is already on the outer with McLaren. He's pulling a Johnny Herbert, trying to lay the groundwork for a stunning coup when Button leaves, except that it didn't work when he did it in 2014 and again in 2015.

Auto Bild claim that McLaren are interested in Nico Rosberg, which makes absolutely no sense, but is still only the second-stupidest thing they have written this week after suggesting that Pascal Wehrlein will replace Lewis Hamilton in Monaco.

Curiously, Auto Bild also claim that Prema Racing are weighing up a Formula One bid. Given their recent expansion into GP2 and the time that it takes to get all of the infrastructure in place, it's probably not something that will happen any time soon - but Prema are one of the junior teams that could pull it off (the others being ART Grand Prix and DAMS), and they have some kind of deal with Teddy Yip (who seems to have given up on Status Grand Prix), and he has talked about getting the Theodore Racing Concern name back into Formula One.
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I wish I could get payed to make up BS. Seems like being an F1 reporter is the 2nd easiest job in the world, just behind local TV weather-person :rolleyes:


As for the Prema story, it makes some sense. Almost seems like it could be a backup for Lance Stroll if things don't work out with Williams. I'm half expecting to see Tommy Hilfiger branding to show up on the Williams next year if Stroll is still with the team....it would actually fit right in with the current livery. The kid has some skill, but maybe not enough for a top tier team - so maybe it's not beyond imagination to think that daddy might just get a team of his own to ensure Lance a spot on the grid. He still has a good 2-4 years before he'll be F1 ready, so there's still time to get the ball rolling.
 
twitcher
I wish I could get payed to make up BS. Seems like being an F1 reporter is the 2nd easiest job in the world, just behind local TV weather-person :rolleyes:


As for the Prema story, it makes some sense. Almost seems like it could be a backup for Lance Stroll if things don't work out with Williams. I'm half expecting to see Tommy Hilfiger branding to show up on the Williams next year if Stroll is still with the team....it would actually fit right in with the current livery. The kid has some skill, but maybe not enough for a top tier team - so maybe it's not beyond imagination to think that daddy might just get a team of his own to ensure Lance a spot on the grid. He still has a good 2-4 years before he'll be F1 ready, so there's still time to get the ball rolling.
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If the car chassis name is B4LL maybe
 
twitcher
I wish I could get payed to make up BS. Seems like being an F1 reporter is the 2nd easiest job in the world
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There's just enough fact mixed in with the inference to make it seem plausible. Benson's theory is that Ron Dennis' warning to the other teams is a sign that Vandoorne will race for McLaren in 2017. By extension of that, either Alonso or Button must go. Both have been linked to drives elsewhere, but Button has had to work harder to keep his seat; therefore, he is the more likely to go. He has been linked to a Williams seat, so that seems the most logical conclusion.

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As for the Prema story, it makes some sense.
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I agree, but not for the reasons you name. Prema are a team who know how to win; they were instantly competitive when they joined GP2. I would not be surprised if they have long-term ambitions.

twitcher
Almost seems like it could be a backup for Lance Stroll if things don't work out with Williams. I'm half expecting to see Tommy Hilfiger branding to show up on the Williams next year if Stroll is still with the team
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I doubt Stroll will race in 2017. He's quick and his impetuousness has steadily been refined into discipline, but I think he needs another season in development. Time is on his side.

Going by Andrew Benson's "reporting", Button would replace Massa for a swansong while Stroll is still developing.
 
prisonermonkeys
There's just enough fact mixed in with the inference to make it seem plausible.
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. Just like the local weather report. And if you end up completely wrong, no one looks at you sideways.

I agree, but not for the reasons you name. Prema are a team who know how to win; they were instantly competitive when they joined GP2. I would not be surprised if they have long-term ambitions.
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I think it's Stroll attatching himself to a winning team to give his son the best possible chance of making it to F1.

I doubt Stroll will race in 2017. He's quick and his impetuousness has steadily been refined into discipline, but I think he needs another season in development. Time is on his side.

Going by Andrew Benson's "reporting", Button would replace Massa for a swansong while Stroll is still developing.
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I didn't mean to imply Stroll would be in F1 in 2017. He'll be in either GP3 or GP2 next year. My guess would be GP2, obviously for Prema, who has now had some time to iron out growing pains of moving to GP2. I don't think Lance will dominate GP2 to the point that he'll make a jump to F1 after only 1 season, I'm guessing he'll do GP2 in 2018 as well. I think 2019 is the earliest we'll see him in F1.
 
What if Haryanto's government money falls through for the second half of the season? Could we see Pastor in the Manor for the second half of 2016? Or would that seat go to Rossi by default?
 
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